Tyler wrote:
[8] You will not discuss, suggest, engage, or encourage any ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. Links provided to locations that deal with any such activity are also expressly forbidden.

Model Sarah wrote:
"See I think, drugs have some done good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us. Do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs, and burn them. 'Cause you know what? The musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Reeeeeeeal fucking high on drugs.-

-Today young men on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.-

-It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom is what it is, okay?. Keep that in mind at all times, thank you." - Bill Hicks

do you want the dude or gal who operates on you, fly's the plane or drives the bus your kid takes to school suffering from reefer madness???

marilyne wrote:
Any one who thinks they are going to lose all rational thought and control, is horribly misinformed. What kind of education does this person have.
Were they raised on Refer Madness as a learning guide?

You've obviously never been around people who smoked pot then.

BCG wrote:

do you want the dude or gal who operates on you, fly's the plane or drives the bus your kid takes to school suffering from reefer madness???

alcohol is legal and they still do it........

BCG wrote:
do you want the dude or gal who operates on you, fly's the plane or drives the bus your kid takes to school suffering from reefer madness???

Ahem; quoting Bill again;



"Alcohol is only the number 2 killer in the world but yet I have seen beer commercials during "war on drug" specials. Define irony. Cigarrettes legal, alcohol legal, they kill people more than all of the illegal drugs combined times 1,000. Pot kills.... uh............. no one. Let's put it in a time frame.. uh 'ever'. Yet it is against the law.

Want a better world legalize pot. I have never seen anyone on just pot get into a fight because it is fucking impossible. Say you get into a car accident, you are smoking pot. You were probably only going 4 mph."  - Bill Hicks

I dont use it but I am not against legalizing it.

nish 24 wrote:
medical Marijuana was just made legal in Rhode Island yesterday I think. They ended up  overturning the governors veto to make the overwealming victory. I think that that's the 11'th state to legalize medical marijuana.

So maybe one day .....

Maybe so. However, the federal government can, if it chooses to, enforce the federal Controlled Substances Act against anyone who violates it. Remember, Federal law always trumps state law.


Robert

theda wrote:
Careful...

Lock this thread and I'll be safer in creating a new thread titled, When will OTC Marijuana be made available to the public. I'm thinking Tyler meant that statement in a different way.. I could be wrong of course; you know him better than I do.

U240Robert wrote:

Maybe so. However, the federal government can, if it chooses to, enforce the federal Controlled Substances Act against anyone who violates it. Remember, Federal law always trumps state law.


Robert

not in the Great State of Texas.

EMG STUDIOS wrote:
Lock this thread and I'll create a new thread titled, When will OTC Marijuana be made available to the public. I'm thinking Tyler meant that statement in a different way.. I could be wrong of course; you know him better than I do.

I think so too.  I just wanted to toss that rule in the thread to deter people from going off ilicit tangents. No need to lock now.

MEWanoDesigns wrote:
Not particularly. I'm not fond of anything that causes me to lose control of all rational thought or action.

So I guess you're against alcohol, Nyquil, General Anesthesia, and being In Love?? lol

galavanmoskou wrote:
You have pot and you have pot.
What they smoke in Holland is so strong that your brains will fall out. I don't think you would still think the same after smoking that ;-)
Any kind of drug just SUCKS.

What they smoke in Holland is Hashish.  Marijuana only grows well in climates in the Americas, so the marijuana is processed into Hashish (ships/keeps better) before being shipped to Europe.  It is exceedingly rare to find pot itself in Europe.  Mostly you find hashish there.

EMG STUDIOS wrote:

So I guess you're against alcohol, Nyquil, General Anesthesia, and being In Love?? lol

lol, you're such a smartass.

galavanmoskou wrote:
What they smoke in Holland is so strong that your brains will fall out. I don't think you would still think the same after smoking that ;-)
Any kind of drug just SUCKS.

Um... I've spent a LOT of time in Amsterdam, and I've yet to see any brain matter on the streets. Anything in excess can become a problem. Anything in reasonable moderation can potentially be a positive thing.

P.S. As an FYI, marijuana, hash, and mushrooms are all readily available OTC in The Netherlands, and while technically still *illegal*, a 'policy of tolerance' allows for the open purchase and use of personal amounts of these substances. The problem is that cultivation and wholesale supplying is still actively criminalized in The Netherlands, which means that the growers and wholesalers are still criminals in their own countries and in the Netherlands, which is why codified legalization is truly the best (and most financially prudent) long-term solution.

MEWanoDesigns wrote:
lol, you're such a smartass.

Only my mother loves me... sometimes... LMAO

Peter Dattolo wrote:
I am sure pot has its good points and bad points as with everything else these days. Legalizing pot would be done in about 2 seconds if it didnt put sooo many drug dealers back into the working atmosphere because they aint making money on the drugs no more. people would save so much money because the price would be lower and steady and become almost like cigs after awhile.
Then one day they will have hash patchs so you can quit smoking pot.

The drug dealers could then go work in the weed factories for $5.50 an hour. I think the initial shock of weed being legal would wear off rather quickly because it wouldn't be as taboo.

Don't forget that the GUBMENT could tax it and be happy too. In NY weed would be $35,000.00 an ounce lol.... I feel for regular tobacco smokers, if I had that habit, I'm not sure I'd be able to put gas in my truck..

galavanmoskou wrote:
This is so right but a hard thing for a drug addict or just people using it too much and still thinking they are OK.

Agreed. Substance abusers are going to abuse substances, be they legal or illegal. However, prohibition doesn't help them or anyone else.

EMG STUDIOS wrote:
Anybody sitting back waiting for that day?

Yes, tobacco is evil!!!  Bad for you!!

Let's legalize pot!!


I can't wait for all the pot related lawsuits!!

Nemi wrote:
I don't and have never smoked pot.
BUT I think legalizing AND regulating it would be a great thing.
If pot were legal and could be bought and sold like ciggaretes it would eliminate pot dealers. Also the danger of buying something laced would be gone as everything would be overseen by the government.
This could only HELP the government financially and morally because it would be harder for pot to land in the hands of a 12 year old. Right now it is MUCH easier for a 12 year old to get pot than it would be for them to get a box of cigs.
Think about it folks.

Yes but the government doesnt want to legalize things that make people feel happy.



"How are we going to keep building nuclear weapons or what's going to happen to the arms industry when people are happy and realize we are all one. It's going to fuck up the economy. The economy thats fake anyway. Drugs that grow naturally on this planet that make you realize you are being fucked everyday of your life are illegal. Coincidence? I dont know.. "  - Bill Hicks

Model Sarah wrote:
Yes but the government doesnt want to legalize things that make people feel happy.

touche

MEWanoDesigns wrote:
Not particularly. I'm not fond of anything that causes me to lose control of all rational thought or action.

If smoking pot causes you to lose that much control, you probably need psychiatric assistance and a drug more suitable for your affliction.

U240Robert wrote:

Maybe so. However, the federal government can, if it chooses to, enforce the federal Controlled Substances Act against anyone who violates it. Remember, Federal law always trumps state law.


Robert

You are, unfortunately, quite right; but moreover, they already have.  Just after Sept. 11, 2001 the DEA began using just that law to raid thousands of legitimate medical marijuana users in the state of California.  Coincidence? 

Here is a link to an article that about a recent supreme court decision that stemmed (no pun intended) from all of that:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/06/scotu … marijuana/

Kind of ironic when put into the context of how much the current president likes to advocate for state's rights, eh?

Nemi wrote:
I don't and have never smoked pot.
BUT I think legalizing AND regulating it would be a great thing.

I was going to say almost the exact same thing.

The only conclusion to which I can come is that the "war on drugs" is more profitable for the government than the taxes they expect the could collect.

ADGibson wrote:
Seems to me that Pot is Mother Natures aspirin tablet.

Willow bark is nature's asprin tablet.

I'd hate to see asprin replaced by pot, but that's probably because I like saying "acetylsalicylic acid".

Brian Diaz wrote:

I was going to say almost the exact same thing.

The only conclusion to which I can come is that the "war on drugs" is more profitable for the government than the taxes they expect the could collect.

My thoughts as well.  I think the DEA makes more by putting it back on the street, plus it has the added bonus of being a never ending war (or never ending excuse for an avenue to funnel funds that most don't question), and an easy excuse to jail the poor.