SKITA Studios wrote:
The Asus EEE Pad (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5693) looks far more compelling to me, assuming Windows7 can be installed on it.
Battery life of 6hrs if it's like their other netbooks.  You can use it as an adhoc wifi access point for the eye-fi.  You can use the Wireless-USB (802.11n) DIY hack for doing full-blown real tethering if you can run your camera's tethering software on it...

All new computer have Windows 7 installed.

SKITA Studios wrote:
The Asus EEE Pad (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5693) looks far more compelling to me, assuming Windows7 can be installed on it.
Battery life of 6hrs if it's like their other netbooks.  You can use it as an adhoc wifi access point for the eye-fi.  You can use the Wireless-USB (802.11n) DIY hack for doing full-blown real tethering if you can run your camera's tethering software on it...

I've called Asus several times and they won't be me a answer to when there
pads be out.  Meanwhile  Apple continues to march on.  Those that come to late
to the party miss out.  Dell, Gateway, HP, Asus and Toshiba are missing the boat.
The pads are the future.  Android OS is what runs best as well the Leopard version
that Apple placed on its iPad.

One of the pads runs a triple boot of Windows CE, Ubuntu and Android with Android
being the clear winner.  The popularity of the iPad caught everyone by
surprise and only the unbranded pads are competing with the iPad.
The Archos 9 is nice but who's buying it.  Apple is everywhere.  I'm seeing the
iPad at cafes and Wi/Fi hot spots.  The Archos pads are a better value then the
iPad but once again its all about perception. 

Those on a budget might consider the Moonse e7001.  This is a pad for
under $200.00 that has received ok reviews along with Eken.  All Apple needs
to do is add some USB connections, more ram, SD and CF slots and its done.
They also need to offer a easy way to tether the device to cameras. 
I'm not a Apple fan boy but why are racing ahead of everyone.  When Asian
makers can turn a tidy profit on their cheap pads why couldn't the big boys
get something well priced out.

DougBPhoto wrote:

Dumb question... is there any way to selectively choose what images are transferred, or does it need to be all images...  or all images as they are shot.

I'm shooting events with a D300s, and would love to wirelessly transfer selected shots, but I'm not sure about needing to transfer everything.

This thread has been helpful in that I had not considered setting up a wireless router without an Internet connection, to serve as a go-between...

I'm also curious what the card does to a camera's battery life  (as well as long-term implications of having radio-frequency transmissions going through my hand for hours at a time (as the SD cards are in the grip) and what kind of range can be expected outdoors.

You can ABSOLUTELY choose what leaves your camera and you have full control:

http://www.eye.fi/blog/control-what-leaves-your-camera
http://www.eye.fi/blog/selective-share
http://forums.eye.fi/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1120
http://support.eye.fi/upload-mode/

The D300s is a perfect pro camera for the Eye-Fi Card. That's exactly what I use. Nikon even changed it, to add beautiful functionality for Eye-Fi (like the D3000, D5000, etc...) and you'll see how uploads are happening, via the LCD.

In terms of battery life -- in the D300s -- you won't notice it. The card draws 10% more power FROM THE CARD SLOT. The card slot draws very little power from the camera, compared to the LCD, the power meter, the lens motors, etc...

Thx.

Alluring Photo wrote:
FULL DISCLAIMER: I'm one of the Eye-Fi co-founders.

Can you co-found a CF version sometime soon please.

I'm trying this set-up later today with a mi-fi like device, which is essentially a battery powered 3g router you can put in your pocket and will be trying to fire basic jpegs to the iPad while the RAWs store on the other card on my D3.



Not holding out much hope for it working but would be useful for workshops and such.

paulcoxphotography wrote:

Can you co-found a CF version sometime soon please.

I'm trying this set-up later today with a mi-fi like device, which is essentially a battery powered 3g router you can put in your pocket and will be trying to fire basic jpegs to the iPad while the RAWs store on the other card on my D3.



Not holding out much hope for it working but would be useful for workshops and such.

sweet!  lemme know how it works out!

syd47421 wrote:

sweet!  lemme know how it works out!

It worked out great surprisingly!  See here - http://paulcoxphotography.co.uk/624

paulcoxphotography wrote:

It worked out great surprisingly!  See here - http://paulcoxphotography.co.uk/624

I like it Paul, good work!

syd47421 wrote:

sweet!  lemme know how it works out!

Here is what I posted on Paul's amazing post:

Guys,

Several comments:

First of all -- AWESOME write-up !!!

The Eye-Fi Pro X2 DOES support ad-hoc AND RAW transfers. Here is a link to our features and features, where it clearly states that:

http://www.eye.fi/products/compare-cards

The iPad DOES NOT support ad-hoc so the use of the MiFi is PERFECT.

The link that I sent to my DropBox of the Connectify software is a special version they wrote for us. It's different than what they have for Win7. If you're on XP, and you want to do ad-hoc - check it out :-)

Naked Hobby wrote:
I love the research that you have done for this and the thought. I love my iPad as it allows me to post on forums, write emails, read books, research, look at pictures..etc etc. But I have just upgraded to lightroom 3 which allows easy tethering to my MacBook. I love the eyefi system and wish that they had a cf version. At present, I just use the camera kit for my iPad to show pictures. I have some clients that ask me to whip in, do a bunch of test shots and then send them back within 24 hours. Ideally, I am working on tethering to my MacBook and having light room, slap the companies watermark on the picture and display it on the fly. Then when I get back to the office I just have to do some quick edits and send em out.

Right now I take the shots, go home and send contact sheets, then the client, sends the shots they want, then I edit, watermark and send back. Although I have this to a science...it would be nice to eliminate a step and therefore reduce the time. Any discussions on eyefi and iPad...I am in.

Nh

With the MacBookPro, you can just use the Eye-Fi Pro X2's ad-hoc functionality. That's why it's there :-)

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/features/advanced
http://www.eye.fi/lightroom
http://support.eye.fi/support-resources … e-fi-card/
http://www.eye.fi/event-tips
http://www.eye.fi/latest/lightroom-kill … eye-fi-pro

Kev Mo wrote:
UUUUmmmmm! What was that again? LOL! Sounds French to me man.

which part?

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Anyone who has used a iPad wants one.  They are cool .  My complaints
are no flash, no SD reader/slot and no usb.  The Asian clones have addressed
these issues and Android is better in many ways then using Apple's apps.
As to the tether issue....

The OP has offered a clever solution to something Apple should have focused
on.  I have debated this problem with some other shooters about the iPad.
They felt that the people buying the pads won't care about tethering.  Those people
are crazy IMHO.  That's the very reason you buy these gems.  My budget is
limited but the iPad is fantastic.  Its one of the best new products around and
will change the landscape of computing.  I am not a Apple fan boy.  Although, I
do own Apple computers.

I am a tech fan boy and the iPad is killer.

It does have an sd card reader

EDIT: it's an add on attachment.

circusoffreaks wrote:
I have to admit that I'm torn on the iPad. Technologically it's a marvelous thing, but at the same time it's so absurdly lacking and restrictive that despite the cheap price, it's just not worth it for me, mainly because I have an iphone. I thought about buying one just to get me around this annoying waiting period, but I can't justify it. I quite like the Archos 9, but there are a few wtf's on that one too, such as no wireless.

That being said, I would love a 'perfect' slate but for some reason the alternatives are taking forever to come out with them even through they were all over the place at the latest shows. While I don't necessarily want the ability to run lightroom or anything like that, I am a HUGE fan of remote shooting, and I want a 'real' slate that was up to my specs to do that with.

One day, but hopefully sooner rather than later.

J

Apple kinda dropped the ball on this one and forcing people to have to
buy extra expensive peripherals was funky.  I think the ideal was to
just have a e-reader, wifi device that could also be used to watch movies.
I'm not sure using it to tether to cameras, etc. was the game plan.
Show images for sure and its great for that but this doesn't really have a
powerhouse processor. 

That said, when the same factories that produce the iPad are making
machines that have SD and USB connections its something Apple
should have put in.  The clones run Android and are getting better quickly.
By the way the Archo's 9 does have Wi/Fi;  http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/archos- … 00951.html

It also has a larger hard drive then the iPad but its nowhere as much
fun as the iPad.  Priced close to the iPad the Archo's fails.
If your machine doesn't do as much it can't be at the same price point.
Several pad clones like the Zenithink iPad run Android and are around
$250.00.  It has SD and USB built in and a decent processor more important
it runs Android.  Some people have questioned the future of the pads.
After all they aren't new and the first attempt failed. 

This is a brand new day...

Tony Lawrence wrote:
By the way the Archo's 9 does have Wi/Fi;  http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/archos- … 00951.html

It also has a larger hard drive then the iPad but its nowhere as much
fun as the iPad.  Priced close to the iPad the Archo's fails.
If your machine doesn't do as much it can't be at the same price point.
Several pad clones like the Zenithink iPad run Android and are around
$250.00.  It has SD and USB built in and a decent processor more important
it runs Android.  Some people have questioned the future of the pads.
After all they aren't new and the first attempt failed.

Hmm that's weird, I think the forum mangled my comment somehow. I know the Archos 9 has wireless b_ and g_ but it does not have wireless n_ (put underscores so they show properly).

Totally true, but the reason why the 'slate' market is kinda screwed right now is basically because of apple. Even though slates are crazy cheap, and they should be, apple dropped the bomb by releasing theirs at the price they did. I'm sure apple isn't making much on those if anything. Why? Easy, they make a killing on the iTunes store, they know that providing the device at or near cost is really giving them another consumer. They don't make money on the device, they make money on the sales through that device. It's damn smart really, and something other manufacturers aren't really going to be able to compete with.

There's no doubt on their future imo. The absurd sales of the iPad alone are clear indication of that fact.

I'm curious though, and this really is not an invite to a flame war, but rather an innocent question. Why is Android so important? I know it's open source and all that, and technologically has a few benefits, not to mention a reduction in the device cost (screw you microsoft) but wondering what your thoughts were?

All I know is the second there's a 8-10" with hdmi out, decent battery life, tolerable screen, at least 1 usb and software that can support remote shooting that I don't have to write or pay for, I'm definitely getting one, and I think most everyone will really. Like the iPad, but pretty much hate Apple and my iPhone now, so learned my lesson.

J

circusoffreaks wrote:

Hmm that's weird, I think the forum mangled my comment somehow. I know the Archos 9 has wireless b_ and g_ but it does not have wireless n_ (put underscores so they show properly).

Totally true, but the reason why the 'slate' market is kinda screwed right now is basically because of apple. Even though slates are crazy cheap, and they should be, apple dropped the bomb by releasing theirs at the price they did. I'm sure apple isn't making much on those if anything. Why? Easy, they make a killing on the iTunes store, they know that providing the device at or near cost is really giving them another consumer. They don't make money on the device, they make money on the sales through that device. It's damn smart really, and something other manufacturers aren't really going to be able to compete with.

There's no doubt on their future imo. The absurd sales of the iPad alone are clear indication of that fact.

I'm curious though, and this really is not an invite to a flame war, but rather an innocent question. Why is Android so important? I know it's open source and all that, and technologically has a few benefits, not to mention a reduction in the device cost (screw you microsoft) but wondering what your thoughts were?

All I know is the second there's a 8-10" with hdmi out, decent battery life, tolerable screen, at least 1 usb and software that can support remote shooting that I don't have to write or pay for, I'm definitely getting one, and I think most everyone will really. Like the iPad, but pretty much hate Apple and my iPhone now, so learned my lesson.

J

Open source is the future.  Apple is making a mint from the pads
and their new phone.  The pads cost less then $300.00 each.  At, $500.00
for the basic pad it adds up.  However so many people are used to
using Android that any maker that produces a decent pad will make money.
The Asian units are coming along quickly.  Firmware updates from
sites like Slatedroid are making even entry units like the Eken M001
units more useable.

The iPad has a fantastic screen and is great for showing off photos.
The clones also look great but don't handle video formats all that
well.  Wi/fi seems spotty and yes, I ordered two of them.  I'm a kid.
Your wish is my command by the way: http://blog.ziggytek.com/2010/05/04/zen … ex-a8-cpu/

This has HDMI.  Droid offers tether to camera.  Most  Pads don't connect
directly to the Android marketplace.  Some hacks are required.  However
its less then half the price of a iPad with a better processor from what
I've heard.  The Archos Pads are actually pretty nice and cheaper then
the iPad with more memory but its all in the marketing.

Have you seen any threads started about the Archos pads?

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Open source is the future.

Yeah, kinda. I'm a computer programmer by trade looking to move into photography, so arguably I'm jaded. I both agree and disagree, but conversation for another day.

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Your wish is my command by the way...

Yeah looks relatively decent, and I'm open minded to android, but two probs...
1. has that "here's a pic, but it's not quite available yet" feel
2. I'm unclear on android tethering. Got any links?

Perhaps I'm misusing terminology, but to be clear I'm looking to do remote shooting (more than just 'tethering' or file dumping) using a slate device. I am open minded about a lot to fulfill that statement, including OS (linux or android would be just fine for sure), but pretty much decided that the iPad just ain't for me.

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Have you seen any threads started about the Archos pads?

Nothing in terms of what I'd want to see. Ultimately as 'cute' as the archos pads are, they aren't really what I'm after in terms of specs and cost. Right now I'm wimping out on using a windows one because let's face it....as annoying as it is, I know it's just going to work. I believe windows will get me to where I want to go as fast as possible, but if desperate enough I could see using a linux/android slate and just writing code to do all that I want (though I'd really rather let someone else do the work heh).

BTW, this is another choice that's "closer" to what I want: http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate-comparison.php

Ultimately I'm thinking that I'll take almost anything right now, and just upgrade it to something when these companies finally get their act together (nvidia tegra2 *cough*).

J

*edit* changed to english link, oops