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Fellow photographers how do you feel about models bringing escorts to shoots? I had no problem with it but after two bad experiences im against it now. I think its hard when a photographer and a model gets into a zone for the other person to be included in that zone and they wind up messin it up. Just my personal opinion. Would you bring an escort to your day job? Mar 26 11 10:36 am Link
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Reason: violates rules Comments: Do not troll. Do not hijack. NOTE: Feeding a troll is highly discouraged. Consider this an early warning. Mar 26 11 10:38 am Link nice first post. lol. this is the hot button topic. we've done like 50 shoots and no problems so far with escorts. we usually put them to work or even shoot them. Mar 26 11 10:38 am Link B Browder Photo wrote:
Mar 26 11 10:40 am Link After having a mother complain that I didn't have any reading material for her to sift through while I shot her daughter, I started to specify that escorts need to be able to entertain themselves. Most models who bring escorts don't model for a living. Mar 26 11 10:41 am Link Just Photoz wrote: No I wouldn't........but to each their own. Live and let live some folks say. Mar 26 11 10:41 am Link I'm glad you brought up this question. I was wondering what I was going to do for the next three days.  Mar 26 11 10:41 am Link B Browder Photo wrote: Made me smile too. Mar 26 11 10:42 am Link Bruce Hart wrote: Made me smile too......but in a different way. Mar 26 11 10:42 am Link Visual Echoes wrote: Ya. Mar 26 11 10:43 am Link White Knight in 9...8...7...6... Mar 26 11 10:44 am Link Cherrystone wrote: 5...4...3....2..... Mar 26 11 10:45 am Link Mar 26 11 10:47 am Link Here's over 200 threads with 'escorts' in the title.....somebody wake me up if anything new gets said....I'm stoned on cough medicine... https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?te … rt_order=0 Mar 26 11 10:48 am Link B Browder Photo wrote: Lord, foregiveth them for they know not what they do. But jeeeze, this has got to make 5,000 + 1. Mar 26 11 10:49 am Link Im happy that someone finally is willing to talk about this issue. I constantly see photographers and models alike skirting this very sensitive issue. I say the HELL with it...lets get it out here in the open and finally deal with it. Mar 26 11 10:51 am Link Just Photoz wrote: No I'm a Chevy man. Mar 26 11 10:52 am Link Aww stop being mean to the newb. Basically, some people don't mind them, some people hate them. Both sides usually feel pretty strongly on the subject, but if you don't want escorts, don't accept them. Mar 26 11 10:53 am Link Photography/modeling is not like any other day job. That's why we do it. I allow models to bring 1 escort. Then it's their decision to show up alone or with someone. I give them guidelines ahead of time so they know. 1) Someone who will behave themselves. Someone who will not disrupt or interefere with the photo shoot or be a distraction to the model. 2) Someone who will be patient because good photo shoots take a while. DOnt' want someone getting impatient and whining "is it almost over." I can ignore it, but it will bother the model, and that shows up in her face. 3) Preferabley another model or a make-up artist. I don't mind a photographer friend only if he/she leaves their camera at home, not in the car. I've been lucky not to have any problems with escorts. Mar 26 11 10:55 am Link SPFOTOLA wrote: Dude, this topic has been discussed to death on the forums. Skirting around it? More like charging headfirst swinging a battle axe. punkuate wrote: Well said. Mar 26 11 10:56 am Link Morgan Barbour wrote: I think he was being sarcastic. Or were you? LOL Mar 26 11 10:58 am Link Morgan Barbour wrote: Dude... sarcasm. Mar 26 11 10:58 am Link B Browder Photo wrote: Ah, re-reading it he might have been. Mar 26 11 10:59 am Link punkuate wrote: See above. Mar 26 11 11:00 am Link Morgan Barbour wrote: Thats ok, I agree though this really should be discussed. LOL Mar 26 11 11:00 am Link I hate it, I mean seriously. Drive a real car already. Mar 26 11 11:01 am Link  Mar 26 11 11:01 am Link B Browder Photo wrote: Forserious. Mar 26 11 11:01 am Link  Mar 26 11 11:01 am Link Morgan Barbour wrote: Dude? Really? We all know Nikon is superior to Canon. But I'm willing to discuss this sensitive issue as well. Mar 26 11 11:03 am Link SPFOTOLA wrote: But...but...but... Mar 26 11 11:10 am Link SPFOTOLA wrote: Finally deal with what? People aren't skirting the escort issue. just been discussed 1000 times. Mar 26 11 11:15 am Link "Escorts" that pay large sums of money for their pictures are welcome in front of my camera any time!  I don't care what they do for a living if the money is good. I don't pay for escorts and never will. Since Craigslist pulled their adult ads, I have not gotten as many of these requests though. Oh wait! You are talking about the car? Yea, I've had a couple Ford Escorts before. Put 100k on my first one then totaled it out by rolling it! I'm lucky to be alive, then the second one I burned the engine up ... so have not had much luck with them. Huh? You don't mean "escorts" but you mean chaperones that come with minor aged models? Yes, I have no problem with adults (parents) accompanying their child to photo shoots. In fact they are very welcomed! Not that kind of chaperone? But some sort of protection? Yes, I know I'm such a loveable nice guy that I need protection. So I do have several folks like make up artists, hair, grips, and other assistants to help out on a shoot. They protect me from bad photo shoots. We have good photo shoots working together! My rule is "No uninvited guests!" If you want to have someone I don't know attend, then you should introduce us in advance and let me know why that person should be attending. I have no problem with friends that we both know being at shoots. "Escorts" is a bad, filthy, terrible word on the forums! Either you are an invited guest OF BOTH the model and photographer OR you don't belong there. Anyone else is an univited guest there for the WRONG reasons! Get it? Mar 26 11 11:16 am Link punkuate wrote: Yeah, I don't see why it has to be a 100% yes or no situation. Mar 26 11 11:26 am Link B Browder Photo wrote: lol me 2 Mar 26 11 11:28 am Link If you wish to believe escorts keeps the model safe because the "possibility" of finding a rapist or what have you, here are the places you need to have an escort because of the "possibility" of being raped or assaulted. A) To the Bathroom (Which most women go in packs anyway, right?) http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/10/nyreg … quare.html B) To a store (Wal-Mart, Mall, etc...) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348409,00.html C) To a Gym http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/node/30248 D) To a Club http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=500775 E) Jogging http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25625353/ F) To Work http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1 … 985C563909 G) To a Bank http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirate … 9-1.272398 H) The Library http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/30 … -breaking/ The list could actually go on. There is always a chance of something that MIGHT happen somewhere with whatever activity you choose to do; even then, a true psycho will just kill your escort too. There are rapists and murderers that don't care if someone is there, he would just kill them too. So enough with the fear mongering. Of course, sometimes it has nothing to do with safety. It has to do with, helping the model in and out of wardrobe, touching up make up, readjusting or fixing the model's hair. Photographers have no problems with people being at a shoot that have business being there (A make-up artist, hair stylist, clothing designer, etc). Read these and if you still need an escort.. work with those that allow them.. otherwise.. lose the "mean world syndrome" Safety In Internet Modeling, By James Glendinning/ SilverLight Esoterica Photography What is Due Diligence in the Internet Modeling and Photography Environment?, By Curt @ photoworks.ws Mar 26 11 11:28 am Link I don't have a policy against escorts. My experiences with them have been mixed. Overall though, I don't like them for the following reasons: 1. More liability exposure for me. 2. More crowding in my small home studio 3. Greatly increased risk of theft. 4. They often feel they need to give their opinions to the detriment of the shoot 5. There are now 2 people instead of one that need to stick to their commitment for the shoot to happen, so the risk of the model bailing is increased. 6. If a model feels I'm a threat to her, I'd rather not work with her at all. 7. With nude shoots, while a newer model might like the idea of not being alone with the photographer, when actually at the shoot, a bystander may make the model less comfortable. Mar 26 11 11:29 am Link Mark in MTL wrote: Not really, an escort is NEVER needed.. it's only wanted. Mar 26 11 11:34 am Link  Moderator Warning!B Browder Photo wrote: Yes. Respond to the ideas being expressed, not the person expressing them. Responding to a post in a hijacking fashion is disruptive, and you have been here long enough to know better. Mar 26 11 11:43 am Link Mark in MTL wrote: Or they could just choose not to shoot with GWCs? Mar 26 11 11:48 am Link |
