ki era wrote:
I think sadly that men in general who also make up most of the photographers who want to shoot nudes do not care about other people's futures or feelings enough to accept a simple no and not be pushy. This is comparable to alot of areas of life where men "coerce" women/girls into doing things they do not want to do simply for their own gain.

In other words men are selfish they simply do not care how they get what they want or how them getting what they want hurts you as a person. As long as they get what they want they are happy.

And that is why fathers never trust any man to take their daughters on a date etc.. because men know what other men are truly like. The same is true of men even in job settings like modelling. If they can bribe you to do it then they are happy. If you then get emotionally distraught, lose your job over it, or lose future modelling opportunities over it as far as they're concerned it doesn't matter one bit cuz woohoo they got to shoot a woman naked in the name of "art".

Sadly that is the world we live in, people are selfish and they will lie, coerce, cheat and steal to get their way.

In other words photographers will never learn to simply take no as an answer, they will always try to "talk/bribe/guilt you into doing it" no matter what your concerns are and no matter how many examples of these decisions hurting other girls you bring up. It's called "lack of empathy" and until men get more of it the world will always be a dangerous place.

Wow. What a misandrist !

Images by MR wrote:
I don't understand the need to try and persuaded a model who doesn't wish to shoot nudes to shoot nudes.  I mean aren't their enough models on MM willing to do nudes either for tf or paid ?/

Just my thoughts ~ MR

Absolutely there are!!  some people like to beat the subject to death just like....  escorts??

Images by MR wrote:
I don't understand the need to try and persuaded a model who doesn't wish to shoot nudes to shoot nudes.  I mean aren't their enough models on MM willing to do nudes either for tf or paid ?/

Just my thoughts ~ MR

Nope....

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
A guy walks into a bar and sits down next to an incredibly beautiful young lady.

He leans over and says to her "would you sleep with me for a million dollars?"

"Of course !" she replied, smiling

"Would you sleep with me for two dollars" he then asked . . .

She becomes indignant and shouts "What Kind Of A Girl Do You Think I Am?"

He replies calmly . . .  "I think we've already established that . . . Now, all we're doing is haggling over the price"


hahaha







Not exactly sure how this fits in with this forum, but something about a few of the posts reminded me of this . . .

KM

Eryn G wrote:
It really makes me sick how potential employers think because you've shot nudes like mine in my port, that you would be a bad employee.

I have no shame in my work, and if they do, they are not a company I want to work with.

I actually consider it discrimination.

I think it just depends on the company/line of work

for example if you are a teacher, you dont want children at school to come across your images.. I teacher I had in secondary school went through this and the time between kids finding the images and her eventually being relocated was very akward!

or in my case with the disney company/princess parties, it just helps to portray a wholesome image

tashaalynn wrote:
i have more respect of myself and not amout of money would change my mind.

Here we go with the old "nude models don't respect themselves."

Amy_Irving wrote:
I think it just depends on the company/line of work

for example if you are a teacher, you dont want children at school to come across your images.. I teacher I had in secondary school went through this and the time between kids finding the images and her eventually being relocated was very akward!

yeah, it's appalling!  Of course, any number of previously "immoral" behaviours are now perfectly acceptable for teachers.  They used to be fired if anyone found out they were sexually active.  Or, if they got married, since that implied sex.

Amy_Irving wrote:
or in my case with the disney company/princess parties, it just helps to portray a wholesome image

The human body is SO unsavory.

Choose what your want for yourself, and you have every right to have others respect your choice.  But the rationalizations are generally pretty weak when it comes to large institutions.

Princess Dasha wrote:
I can't find the post of the person who wrote: "I don't do nudes because I respect my body" but wow! Just wow! A very bad kind of wow that is...

Hmm.. for the right kind of gig? Definitely. My goal is to star in a movie where I get to be nude. In an ancient movie! Oh wow, I'd love that. To slide down a rope or something sensual. Helen of Troy style

For the right gig, sure. I'm more attached to my nipples tough. I feel there's so much discrimination towards female nipples. It's really disturbing and sad. Yuck.
Social networking sites (ahem) that block female nipples under an "adult's content" rate while leaving sexually exposed male chests out in the public.

I am 100% positive that most of those people who claim they wouldn't do nudes are not speaking out of their own made minds but because they parents/significant other's/friends/employees/bosses etc. would freak out.

For the right gig that kind of conditional support would matter less of a dime to me, lol.

I love your attitude, but DAMN, I really don't recommend "sliding down a rope" nude.

Igmar Photography wrote:
I take a pass on the models who post too many rules, want to bring escorts or who 'absolutely don't do nudes'.  It's unprofessional and there's plenty of models who don't have restrictions or hang ups to choose from.

........ perfect !

Libertad Green wrote:
Maybe I'd consider it if it were not illegal for me to do yard work topless.
Equal rights first.

So I would guess that you would in Ontario Canada where it has been legal for women to go topless for over twenty years thanks to one brave women back in 1991.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 … acobs.html

Lana Belle wrote:
My response or comeback to a potential employer saying they found nude pictures of me would be well why were you looking? They must have been looking for nude models or porn sites to come across my pics.

True, but with employers making hiring and firing decisions based off of looking at someone's facebook these days, I just wouldn't want to chance it.

Small Fruit Pits wrote:
Yeah.....persuading is not really cool, particularly doing so with money.

It's tacky, and akin to bribery.

Yeah, kinda like bartering services for money

Gary Melton wrote:
There are thousands and thousands of models who WILL do nudes...why should I disrespect someone who doesn't want to shoot them by trying to change their minds?  I respect their wishes and simply hire models who do shoot them.  I've never had any problems finding them...don't expect to any time soon.

This is a PERFECT attitude!! 

Images by MR wrote:
I don't understand the need to try and persuaded a model who doesn't wish to shoot nudes to shoot nudes.  I mean aren't their enough models on MM willing to do nudes either for tf or paid ?/

Just my thoughts ~ MR

at least its not a forum about escorts.....