DVP Photography wrote:
Any good glamour model should not wear a bra.  However, it's not a matter of age.  I see many late teen and 20's models on MM who have to wear a bra as they have let themselves go.

They shouldn't be modelling then, unless they are exceptionally big to the point they need some support. Any size 2 and below model will have A-B cups that hold perfectly by themselves.

When I grew up in France I remember how few bras young women wore... in America another story

Sometimes I feel they wear 2 layers, not just one.

Visual Serotonin wrote:
They shouldn't be modelling then, unless they are exceptionally big to the point they need some support. Any size 2 and below model will have A-B cups that hold perfectly by themselves.

That is quite an assumption. Professional fashion models, sure, for the most part will fit that standard. In the MM world though where there is an abundance of hobby models, I don't think that is a fair statement. There are plenty of lovely ladies on here that are around a size 2 but with larger-than-A-or-B-cup breasts. Then there is the genetic factor of skin elasticity... some girls can get away with D cup, no bra, and hold up fine. Others can be B cup, wear a bra constantly, and gravity will still find a way.

Amelia Simone wrote:
My boobs are too big to be going braless most of the time. Thats too much unwanted attention. Props to those that can go braless though. I do try to wear dresses with support built in when I  go to a shoot to avoid linezz

I am talking during a shoot... as in a controlled environment away from the general populace, unless it's an outdoor shoot of course

Visual Serotonin wrote:
Wasn't that a symbol of oppression burned in the 1960s?

Nope. It was the 1970's.

In the 60's they just dispensed with bras because everyone was happy and high. Not necessarily in that order.

Of course many of the women who burned them (no, not all) kept a few extra bras and wore one around - so there would be something to burn if they happened onto another demonstration, no doubt.

Visual Serotonin wrote:

They shouldn't be modelling then, unless they are exceptionally big to the point they need some support. Any size 2 and below model will have A-B cups that hold perfectly by themselves.

When I grew up in France I remember how few bras young women wore... in America another story

Sometimes I feel they wear 2 layers, not just one.

Model Mayhem is full of hobbiest models or model wannabees, whose breasts don't make the grade to go without a bra but who want to model.  And they are not big to where they have to have support.  They have the droopies, sad to say, and as I said, it isn't a matter of age.  Just wander around ports on MM and you'll see this quite frequently.

Visual Serotonin wrote:
What is it with most llamas insisting on keeping bras on? even with the most not see through fabrics on?

Wasn't that a symbol of oppression burned in the 1960s?

More seriously I see perfect shots ruined by bra lines.

Puritanism to hide what cannot be seen anyways? unless it is done to hide any trace of nipples on the overlaying fabric.

Bras as I recall were invented to let middle aged women not have their breasts sag and go down to their bellies, not to have teenage and 20 something women press on perfectly firm front appendages with another layer of clothing in the context of a shoot, which does try to portray what is uncommon in real life in an instant of fantasy.

And last I checked most fashion shows do not involve women wearing bras, sometimes with almost transparent fabrics, unless it is explicitly lingerie or bikinis.

It is not that I have a problem getting llamas to do away with them, just strange that I have to always remind them to take it off to eliminate the lines and have an extra deformity on the shoulders. An article from a french article on fashion always said bras (and most of the times underwear) are a no no due to the lines.

Pretty much every shoot I've done where the llama was at least 18, I just tell them not to wear a bra to the shoot.  Whether it's for nudes, or for  a strapless gown, they cause problems.  But it's essential to work within the llama's limits.

DVP Photography wrote:
Model Mayhem is full of hobbiest models or model wannabees, whose breasts don't make the grade to go without a bra but who want to model.  And they are not big to where they have to have support.  They have the droopies, sad to say, and as I said, it isn't a matter of age.  Just wander around ports on MM and you'll see this quite frequently.

What?

DVP Photography wrote:
Any good glamour model should not wear a bra.  However, it's not a matter of age.  I see many late teen and 20's models on MM who have to wear a bra as they have let themselves go.

What does let themselves go really means in this case? Just curious.

Art of the nude wrote:
What?

ART OF THE NUDE - I too am thinking the same thing..

DVP Photography ..... What you said will be hurtful to many.

Breasts come in all shapes , sizes and also different fat and muscle mass. They are all beautiful.

Eden Macieira wrote:
What does let themselves go really means in this case? Just curious.

+1 ..... This is going to be interesting!

Presley ONeil wrote:
I used to cling to my bra:/
I also used to be a D...
I refuse to know my cup size nowadays..
Anywhoo, the actual point is I also rarely wear a bra anymore. Kinda pointless.

PS- did you mean to post this on national no bra day?(:

Had no clue? is that the national no bra day today?

Visual Serotonin wrote:

I am talking during a shoot... as in a controlled environment away from the general populace, unless it's an outdoor shoot of course

Ohh ok. Haha im now zipping it

Amelia Simone wrote:

Ohh ok. Haha im now zipping it

Lol +1

Laura UnBound wrote:
You can't "let yourself go" in terms of the way your tits look, that's fucking ridiculous\

+1

The number one reason for droopiness is sudden, significant weight loss and the woman doesn't even have to be overweight to begin with.

Eden Macieira wrote:

+1

The number one reason for droopiness is sudden, significant weight loss and the woman doesn't even have to be overweight to begin with.

How completely irresponsible of her to get in shape, it just RUINS her tits. Obviously she doesn't care about the way she looks to a bunch of dudes with her bra off.

Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
Come on you guys. Don't feed the old trolls.



Good to see you again, Synergy Visuals. I thought you got banned.

Ah. That guy.

Scarlet Hellion wrote:
I keep my bra on as a courtesy to my husband.  Everyone has boobs, but this particular set are his and his alone. Maybe it is more of a privacy thing than anything else.

You mean during shoots? Under piles of clothing?

Visual Serotonin wrote:

You mean during shoots? Under piles of clothing?

If it's piles of clothing then the lines you spoke about wouldn't be an issues. I assume piles is layers or exuberant details. Now the only time I see lines being an issues is when it's just one layer of thin fabric.

Ben Hinman wrote:
Its all a matter of preference. Most anyone i've ever seen adamantly against it are hippies... Oppression my ass though, no ones making you wear it if you don't want to hahaha

There was no direct or indirect correlation between wearing a bra and such issues as equal pay. Bra burning was strictly symbolic, and the bra was just a convenient symbol. That's probably why many women would burn one and wear another one the next day - and continue to wear them to this day.

Laura UnBound wrote:
You can't "let yourself go" in terms of the way your tits look, that's fucking ridiculous and shows that you know absolutely nothing about the female body (or any body and the way that it stores fat inside it's skin for that matter)... etc

+1 to the absolute max.

Laura UnBound wrote:
There are extremely skinny fit and healthy women who don't have perky perfect breasts for no other reason than they werent born that way

Except yours are in-fact perfect

DVP Photography wrote:
They have the droopies, sad to say, and as I said, it isn't a matter of age.  Just wander around ports on MM and you'll see this quite frequently.

And do you wonder why woman feel compelled to wear bras when you refer to their breasts as 'droopies'?

P I X I E wrote:
Ask the models to not wear a bra 1-2 hours before shooting with you. Problem solved.

What I do with my body is none of your fucking business.

Bravo! I do make a point of including the "Don't wear tight bras prior to shoot" advice - even when we're not shooting nude or topless. An off the shoulder top would still reveal the strap marks if they are severe.

I agree about it being your business - but it is relevant to a shoot. I've tried shooting with someone wearing a flesh colored bra that was showing thru the arm holes of a top - it doesn't look good - so a model needs to be flexible about what she wears. And by that I mean - having alternate bras that are more compatible with the outfits. Strapless bras for instance, smooth cup bras - these can all be very helpful.

Visual Serotonin wrote:

Had no clue? is that the national no bra day today?

It is on July 9th. I think she is stating you should have waited until then for some reason.