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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
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Minx & Fox
Posts: 19067
Palm Springs, California, US
Model
Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Nimue Elaine wrote: That's a peeve thread, and you don't count. Tricksy Hobittses! Added the rant with rant in the title that's right under this thread. People just don't like rants directed at the general MM membership.
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Minx & Fox
Posts: 19067
Palm Springs, California, US
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Misty Matthews wrote: Thanks so much. I am glad to see that not everyone wants to attack me. Sometimes people say things in a authoritative manner. They might not be attacking you, but brushing up their ego because they think they are so much better than you. If someone critiqued you in that post you made in "Retouchers" then you should bring it up to the attention of the moderators ... because that is against the rules. Critiques are done where that section is ... and I did post in there asking for critiques once! I got my ass chewed on! I already am harder on myself than anyone else, but everyone has an opinion. I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed to be a great photographer. I am here for enjoyment and networking. So I would never tell anyone what program to use, what camera, etc .... because this is art, not rocket science. What I do is perfect for myself, but may not be for anyone else. It takes less energy to be nice than it does to be mean. That is all.
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Nimue Elaine wrote: Okay you, a rant about MM. I'd threaten to spank you, but you would probably like it. Booger. Who likes being passive aggressively bitched at? That's like walking into a room where your roommates are sitting and launching into a long rant about how shitty it is to have roommates, then expecting them to be agreeable about it.
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Minx & Fox
Posts: 19067
Palm Springs, California, US
Damianne wrote: Who likes being passive aggressively bitched at? That's like walking into a room where your roommates are sitting and launching into a long rant about how shitty it is to have roommates, then expecting them to be agreeable about it. This is true, the point is, this thread was doomed from the beginning. Didn't matter who posted it, just the tone and the subject matter was the death of it.
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MMRetoucher
Posts: 210
Tulsa, Oklahoma, US
Patrick Walberg wrote: Sometimes people say things in a authoritative manner. They might not be attacking you, but brushing up their ego because they think they are so much better than you. If someone critiqued you in that post you made in "Retouchers" then you should bring it up to the attention of the moderators ... because that is against the rules. Critiques are done where that section is ... and I did post in there asking for critiques once! I got my ass chewed on! I already am harder on myself than anyone else, but everyone has an opinion. I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed to be a great photographer. I am here for enjoyment and networking. So I would never tell anyone what program to use, what camera, etc .... because this is art, not rocket science. What I do is perfect for myself, but may not be for anyone else. It takes less energy to be nice than it does to be mean. That is all. Thanks. Next time I won't ask on the forums. I thought that was what they were meant for but I guess there here for people to judge others.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Nimue Elaine wrote: Everyone didn't attack you. People don't like rants on MM period. Show me one rant thread on MM that ended well and I will die of shock. ROFLMAO!!!
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S. Stark
Posts: 13614
Los Angeles, California, US
Damianne wrote: Who likes being passive aggressively bitched at? That's like walking into a room where your roommates are sitting and launching into a long rant about how shitty it is to have roommates, then expecting them to be agreeable about it.
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Misty Bradshaw
Posts: 287
Tempe, Arizona, US
MMRetoucher wrote: Thanks. Next time I won't ask on the forums. I thought that was what they were meant for but I guess there here for people to judge others. Whoops posted from my retouching profile. I can't get these rants straight.
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Monad Studios
Posts: 10131
Santa Rosa, California, US
MMRetoucher wrote: Thanks. Next time I won't ask on the forums. I thought that was what they were meant for but I guess there here for people to judge others. Don't be discouraged from asking questions. Just learn to ignore the stuff that's not helpful. You did get some helpful answers in that thread before it turned in a different direction.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Damianne wrote: Added the rant with rant in the title that's right under this thread. People just don't like rants directed at the general MM membership. Nimue Elaine wrote: Okay you, a rant about MM. I'd threaten to spank you, but you would probably like it. Booger. No, you go ahead and spank her! I would pay money to shoot that.
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Misty Bradshaw
Posts: 287
Tempe, Arizona, US
Monad Studios wrote: Don't be discouraged from asking questions. Just learn to ignore the stuff that's not helpful. You did get some helpful answers in that thread before it turned in a different direction. That is true. I am glad I did get some information on the program.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Damianne wrote: Who likes being passive aggressively bitched at? That's like walking into a room where your roommates are sitting and launching into a long rant about how shitty it is to have roommates, then expecting them to be agreeable about it. Trust me ... I've had roommates from hell! One couple moved me into their house into a room before the former roommates body was found. I didn't know he was missing, and his body was found 6 months later deep in the woods. I moved out in the middle of the night before they could stage an "apparent suicide" of me. Trust me, I can write a novel that would make a good movie just on that one "roommate" experience. Many more true stories to tell about bad roommates ... until I met some great roommates. So I also have plenty of happy stories to tell.
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Patrick Walberg wrote: Trust me ... I've had roommates from hell! One couple moved me into their house into a room before the former roommates body was found. I didn't know he was missing, and his body was found 6 months later deep in the woods. I moved out in the middle of the night before they could stage an "apparent suicide" of me. Trust me, I can write a novel that would make a good movie just on that one "roommate" experience. Many more true stories to tell about bad roommates ... until I met some great roommates. So I also have plenty of happy stories to tell. It's like you saw a word and just went with it.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
MMRetoucher wrote: Thanks. Next time I won't ask on the forums. I thought that was what they were meant for but I guess there here for people to judge others. -sigh- Many people love to judge others on here. That's a fact! Let it roll off you like water. That's what I do.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Damianne wrote: It's like you saw a word and just went with it. Really? Thank you! I can write books starting with one word. And if it's not words or music that gets me rolling, then I've got 30 years of pictures of mostly concerts and models to go through. Images and words give me inspiration.
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misszara
Posts: 6715
Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)
Misty Matthews wrote: Exactly, thanks so much. No probs, chin up!
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Misty Matthews wrote: The post was an obvious rant. That is all it was. I am sorry for getting people involved. I will not rant again. When someone says something I don't like I will ignore it. You don't have to delete your first post. I had quoted you, and so have others. You do not have to apologize either. No where have you said that everyone on Modelmayhem is attacking you. You even mentioned that there are nice people on here too. So it's not like you came on here and said "All the members of MM suck!" or some such nonsense. I have found that given time, it gets better on here.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Damianne wrote: It's like you saw a word and just went with it. I do understand what you mean. However, I have to agree and disagree with you on some things ... the OP did not directly state that "all" people were attacking her. Ranting doesn't do a hell of a lot of good for anyone either.
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Jay Farrell
Posts: 13408
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Wow talk about argumentative and full of excuses. Here you get called on that, simples.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Patrick Walberg wrote: Really? Thank you! I can write books starting with one word. Hickory ______ ____
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Seker Pare
Posts: 186
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
posted something and got bitten... don't like that? simple - ignore it and continue on. Say what you want to say. People are going to judge you and react to you. Don't want this? maybe rant to people in real life about your issues (whatever it was) because they're more likely to be intimidated or worried about your feelings or that they might sound like an ass hole - online... not so much
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John M Hoyt
Posts: 347
Greenville, South Carolina, US
Btw.... In case you didn't catch on, my comments were in jest . Heh
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2513
Campobello, South Carolina, US
What did I walk in on? o.o OP: You've been given some very good advice in this thread and its unfortunate you aren't interested in hearing it.
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-Nicole-
Posts: 19211
Madison, Wisconsin, US
Wow... And I'm not talking about the OP
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all_names_are_taken
Posts: 337
Ankeny, Iowa, US
The post was an obvious rant. That is all it was. I am sorry for getting people involved. I will not rant again. When someone says something I don't like I will ignore it. So it's a rant about the last rant not going well?
Honestly I am not too sensitive
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 10604
Los Angeles, California, US
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Luna Diosa
Posts: 13242
Elizabeth, New Jersey, US
allison mindy wrote: Honestly you should probably stay out of the forums if you don't have thick enough skin to wade through all the bs. People can be pretty big assholes on here. It's sad, but in truth the world if full of assholes. Edit: Not to say that there aren't a bunch of wonderful people on here who truly want to help, but you'll run into trolls if you like to play in the forums. You can accept the fact or choose not to participate. You aren't going to change anything by creating a post like this. This ^ just the way it is
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-Ira
Posts: 2191
New York, New York, US
"10 ... Open Source and Free Alternatives to Photoshop" http://sixrevisions.com/graphics-design … photoshop/ Couple things I've learned in my time: 1) Sharing your art takes courage. You need to be ready to except criticism. 2) Photography/modeling for profit is extremely competitive. You need to be better than most to make a buck. 3) People can be callous when communicating across the internet. Don't take it personally. Your mileage may vary.
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Lily Darling
Posts: 1299
Lansing, Michigan, US
Misty Matthews wrote: Thanks so much. I am glad to see that not everyone wants to attack me. :eyeroll: you have got to be kidding me. Not everyone is attacking you on here, people on MM don't like rants, you got some very good advice I would take it. And you need to thicken your skin up a bit more, this industry will eat you up and spit you out. If you don't have money, it's simple, don't model. I model as a hobby and I have spent a shit ton of money on clothes, makeup, gas, etc. if you don't have the funds, don't do it.
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Misty Bradshaw
Posts: 287
Tempe, Arizona, US
It's funny to see how this post just keeps going. I pretty much said I agreed and will stop ranting. That I was just upset and that is why I said the things I said. That is all.
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Minx & Fox
Posts: 19067
Palm Springs, California, US
Misty Matthews wrote: It's funny to see how this post just keeps going. I pretty much said I agreed and will stop ranting. That I was just upset and that is why I said the things I said. That is all. People don't read all responses and you commenting on it will just keep bumping back to the top where people will continue to not read everything and comment.
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 39248
Portland, Oregon, US
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Misty Matthews wrote: It's funny to see how this post just keeps going. I pretty much said I agreed and will stop ranting. That I was just upset and that is why I said the things I said. That is all. Helps if you don't bump it two hours after the last post when it's falling down the page.
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AG_Boston
Posts: 475
Boston, Massachusetts, US
udor wrote: My avatar photo is self taken, and so is this, during Hurricane Sandy: https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 905505.jpg But that's not the point... the photos you have displayed do not reflect skills of an actual photographer... and no, you can not tell that those are not self taken. However, your reaction shows that you are too sensitive to criticism... and maybe that's the way how the arguments are ending up in the Retoucher's forum?! You're such and F'ing liar! That's a photo of a ghost in the middle of Hurricane Sandy! True story.
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AG_Boston
Posts: 475
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Shandra Stark wrote: Life is like that, sometimes. If you really want it, you'll make it happen. Can't drive? Want an escort? Clear out space in your house, paint the walls matte white- invite photographers to shoot on your turf. Lounge around in your jammie-jams and then roll out of bed and shoot. Sweet. Whatever it takes. I had a networking dinner for models last night. I found out it would take me four buses to get there, and it'd take an hour and a half. Only an hour walk. I walked. Get shit done and stop making excuses. Do, or do not. You're a damn trooper! I saw the posting for the dinner, then saw where it was, and said "Hellsssssss no!".
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