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MM models different from profile; any stories?!
Here's mine. I was casted last minute for a show via a recommendation... I lucked out. Anyhow, the day of I noticed a girl I'd seen before here on MM, I'll refer to her as Liz. Right away I notice Liz is pretty short and at 5'6 I suppose i'm short too. Typically, I'm the shortest girl on the runway. Liz is obviously shorter, in fact painfully obvious and I was surprised. Her and I had some small talk and she mentioned rarely getting paid runway jobs "because I'm so short." Right then I wanted to ask Liz how tall she was but I just had a feeling I shouldn't bother. Being around Liz was weird, especially barefoot. while my shoes were off she kept giving me an over the top dirty look.  The next day I checked out her MM profile and I was a actually shocked. According to MM Liz is 5'6. In real life, Liz is 5'4 MAX. I will be mean here by saying that I hope that upon meeting her, no one believes that Liz is 5'6. I hope every casting she's attended has had someone call her out. The idea of someone like Liz ruining the chances of girls that are on the lower end makes me cringe. Anyone lying about what they look like is completely stupid however, the internet makes it more possible than ever. I have to ask... Have you ever worked with/casted a model with a MM profile that was a sham? Jan 27 13 10:41 am Link That does it. In addition to the ID I'm now going to weigh and measure any of the models from here that show up. Just when I think I can trust the internets. Jan 27 13 10:58 am Link Maybe she doesn't get much runway work because she lists her height incorrectly just to get called in? You're probably not the only person disappointed when someone comes up short 2 inches less than they said online in real life. Jan 27 13 11:18 am Link 5'6'' is still pretty short for runway, so it really doesn't help that much in the long run. She even said so herself, it's because of her height. That added 2+ inches still doesn't really qualify her for most runway shows as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure models lie about plenty of other things as well, including their weight, dress size, etc. Or, they could simply be inaccurate, as my measurements might be since I measured myself. Lying won't really pay off, if you're the complete opposite of what you claim to be when you show up at a gig or shoot, it's very likely you'll be asked to leave. Or at least I would assume so. I wouldn't worry about "Liz", I'm sure her lies will catch up to her if they haven't already. Jan 27 13 11:36 am Link Adrianna Camille wrote: The reality is that a lot of models lie about a lot of things in their profiles. They lie about their height, their weight and in many cases about their age. It's just something they do because they feel it enhances their chances of getting work. This is particularly true in the case of age where many models would be disqualified from projects simply because they are "too old", regardless of how good they look. Jan 27 13 11:48 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 302 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica A model wears makeup, photographers change lighting, it all adds up to a lie. The industry is all about lies. But good lies. Because everyone knows we are doing it. So what. Jan 27 13 12:00 pm Link PocketChangeProductions wrote: I'm positive that misleading clients is the reason she would have trouble working at least with jobs in her area. I wasn't disappointed that she was shorter, more less embarrassed really. I'm serious when I say MAX. I felt like she expected me to lie for her in a way if you understand what I mean... Jan 27 13 12:04 pm Link Top Gun Digital wrote: I agree/ understand. I suppose I'm just too sentimental for my own good. Jan 27 13 12:11 pm Link Worked with a model in San Diego whose portfolio was solid - but obviously outdated when she arrived 25+ pounds heavier than any image in her portfolio. Went ahead with the TFCD themed shoot anyways and had fun creating some great images (she is a hard working model!) Later I shot several maternity projects with her and booked weddings for several of her friends and family! Professional attitude paid off well in the end! Jan 27 13 12:13 pm Link It's awesome that the difference worked in your favor! Jan 27 13 12:20 pm Link Adrianna Camille wrote: Hi, Jan 27 13 12:23 pm Link That's a terrible. It's simply bad marketing to advertise a product and then deliver an imitation of the product...I'm sure those girls took a hit to their self esteem as well. It's a shame it was at the expense of others including yourself. Jan 27 13 01:04 pm Link Since no one is regulating measurements but themselves I just figure on average they weigh 10-15lbs more than they list, and they are 2 inches shorter. Most cases I don't need someone to be of specific measurements, and if I do, We're meeting before the project's shoot date. Otherwise as long as they look right and have recent images, when shooting for hobby it doesn't matter as much to me. ....but i do own tape measures and a scale. Jan 28 13 03:16 am Link Two words: casting, fitting. All problems solved. :-) Jan 28 13 05:01 am Link Paolo Diavolo wrote: Hmmm? Jan 28 13 09:43 am Link On a similar vein what about photoshopped images. I keep seeing threads about what a model might expect from a TFCD shoot and many say they expect to get fully edited images. We all know that some of the published images we see are heavily edited with even the models 'slimmed down' and blemishes removed etc. So when you book a model because of an edited image on their profile it's as bad as a couple of inches taken off their height!! In any case, this industry is fairly small so dishonesty will soon result in unemployment!!!! Jan 28 13 09:59 am Link also, DNA tests to prove gender. Jan 28 13 10:00 am Link Fuck it, if most photographers saw how I looked every day compared to my portfolio looks, they would run a mile! It's hard enough for me to shoot with the photographers I need to improve my portfolio anyways!  Jan 28 13 10:11 am Link Thank God I'M an artist! 5'4", or 5'1", or even 4'10" I don't care! To me, everyone looks beautiful and tall on a 30"x36" canvas! BTW, even though I went to art school in the '70's, I am still 28 years old and still built like a Greek god!  Jan 28 13 10:17 am Link Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote: You fool! Do you think that will suffice? You need a full body water tank to measure their BMI! Jan 28 13 12:15 pm Link I scheduled a TF shoot with a 99 year old and when she arrived was only 20. Jan 28 13 01:03 pm Link My profile says I'm 4'10 but I still regularly work with photographers who are startled at how short I am when I first arrive, and who are startled again at how not-short I apparently look through the camera. Does that count as two lies? Jan 28 13 11:13 pm Link So we've evolved to the point that 5'6" girls are making fun of 5'4" girls and trying to keep them off their runways? Jan 28 13 11:43 pm Link Angelfactory wrote: lol, that just sort of made my night, lol :p Jan 28 13 11:52 pm Link I worked with a model that says she's 5'8" and I could've sworn she was 5'10", was a pleasant surprise Jan 28 13 11:53 pm Link Sky Donohue wrote: I have a similar issue. I'm 5'3 with long legs and often "trick" people into thinking I'm 5'7-5'8 in photographs until they see me next to someone 5'11 or somesuch. I am TINY, but I'm not going to lie and say, "Hey, I'm 5'7," just because I can pass for that height in photos. Jan 29 13 04:30 am Link Amanda Ashley Harris wrote: +100 Jan 29 13 04:38 am Link A couple of models have told me they are older than the age given in their online portfolios. However their images were up to date and not old ones and in real life they looked like they did in their portfolio so I didn't feel I had been misled. Jan 29 13 05:47 am Link Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote: A photographer I used to know know who shoots fashion proportioned models has a shelf in his studio that was exactly 5 feet and 8 inches from the floor. its right by the door so when he opens it and she is standing still next to it he can see how tall she is. If the model was shorter than that he called her out. But if she was as tall as the shelf he never said anything. He said it was easier than holding up a measuring tape to confirm. Jan 29 13 07:56 pm Link Interesting question, and I have experienced situations where the models didn't exactly "look like" what her profile presented. I know that MANY models lie or at least fudge their statistics some, be it age, height, weight or something else. What I do in those circumstances depends on how important it is that they "fit" their listed stats. Most of my shoots are where the clothing is brought by the model. So it does not bother me much if it's a fudge of a couple inches, a few pounds, or even a few years. However, the age thing is critical if I'm shooting any nudity, so she better not be younger than 18 and be lying about it! Most of my shoots, the weight and height are not important to me. Age for glamour is important! One of my few skills is being able to improvise, so I've not been in any situations where the model was so very different from her stats that I wasn't able to shoot with her. If I'm shooting for a clothing designer, they've already done fittings. Not many "surprises" to speak of. Jan 29 13 09:09 pm Link Sky Donohue wrote: I know we are not supposed to critique in this forum, but I can at least say this; Looking at your portfolio, I cannot tell what your height is. You've got some nice work, but you are not into wearing clothing or doing fashion, are you? Jan 29 13 09:19 pm Link you know there not allowed to lie on the internet LOL Jan 29 13 09:24 pm Link I've seen many models who are shorter then the stats. One very popular one in my area claims 5'9. I am 5'8, and was barefoot, and stood taller then her in heels. Riiiiiiiiighhhtttt. Another claimed 5'11. She was 5'7 at best. Which I never got, because it is visible regardless of whether they say it or not. And both are very gorgeous girls who are successful otherwise. Makes no sense. Jan 29 13 09:27 pm Link I think in fairness.. since the photogs will now be subjecting us fibbing models to more intense scrutiny.. a list of all their photo equipment and software will need to be verified.. fair is fair..lol..  Jan 29 13 09:28 pm Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: In fairness, most photographers don't list our equipment on our profiles. So, unless you count omission as a lie, it's not a lie. Jan 29 13 10:33 pm Link The first time I shot with a model from here it turned out that her port was full of images of her from when she was 18-19. The model was 26 and had a kid in the mean time. That was a learning experience. Jan 29 13 10:34 pm Link Chasing Shadows wrote: thats what most americans are tought to do.. We lie about the Easter bunny, toothfairy and santa clause.. Jan 30 13 12:37 pm Link Robb Mann wrote: has that happened to you?? do tell!!!! Jan 30 13 12:40 pm Link I worked with a photographer last week who told me that he had a scheduled paid shoot with a model that he met on here and when she turned up, it totally WAS NOT the girl in the photos.. she just used someone elses photos kind of like that show catfish.. Jan 30 13 12:42 pm Link MainePaintah wrote: they will look 3 feet tall at best in RL though. Jan 30 13 12:46 pm Link |
! Meow, freakin cats. Those ladies will not ever be invited to another show that I help coordinate. 
I don't know if I'd shoot with a model that demanded that I list my equipment for her.
