Forums >
Photography Talk >
Large Format Printing issues
Hello I recently bought a used Epson Stylus Pro 7600. All the prints heads are fine and I am using genuine epson ink and paper. The problem however, I can't seem to get a usable photo print from it. I have downloaded the appropriate color profiles but I don't know if maybe I am using the wrong settings, etc... In doing different test, sometimes the images are overly tinted with magenta, or washed out. I am printing from Photoshop CS5 from my 2010 27" iMac. I have Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper 260. Can someone please run me through the correct procedure to get a good print? Thank you for your time and I can give more info if you need it. Apr 23 13 01:10 pm Link Is everything calibrated? Your monitor? Also double check your profile settings, you have to do more then just click that profile, you have to have the print settings correct as well. Apr 23 13 01:13 pm Link Have you done a nozzle check? I'll place bets you have a clogged channel. Apr 23 13 01:13 pm Link Make sure you have "Photoshop Manages Colors" selected. If you already do, it could be a myriad of issues. What would be best though is getting RIP software. We use Onyx. It's not inexpensive, but it works great. Apr 23 13 01:23 pm Link TrickProductions wrote: http://www.peachpit.com/store/real-worl … 0321267221 Apr 23 13 01:37 pm Link printing an RGB file on CMYK printer? Apr 23 13 01:40 pm Link I will also place a couple of bucks on a clogged print head. Apr 23 13 01:41 pm Link sdgillis wrote: Of course. Apr 23 13 01:51 pm Link sdgillis wrote: Unless he's using a RIP, that's the way it's most often done. Zave Smith Photography wrote: Or double color management, or the wrong profile for the paper being used, or a problem with his monitor profile, or a bad monitor, or incorrect viewing illumination, or something that doesn't immediately come to mind... Apr 23 13 01:52 pm Link still-photography wrote: It's done that way with a RIP as well. Apr 23 13 01:54 pm Link sdgillis wrote: still-photography wrote: MMDesign wrote: True, but not the point I was making. As I'm sure you realize, I was heading off the possible suggestion that one doesn't send an RGB file to a CMYK printer. MMDesign wrote: I have to disagree. Our OP doesn't seem to be able to successfully use the canned Epson driver/software package. Sending him off to buy/use a RIP could be disastrous. Would you like to explain to him things like linearization, ink-limiting, input-output-simulation profiles, black generation or anything on those lines? Apr 23 13 02:12 pm Link still-photography wrote: sdgillis wrote: still-photography wrote: MMDesign wrote: True, but not the point I was making. As I'm sure you realize, I was heading off the possible suggestion that one doesn't send an RGB file to a CMYK printer. It's no where near as daunting as you make it sound. Once you get it set up, and if you buy it from the right place, they'll install and set it up for you, it's pretty simple. Apr 23 13 02:19 pm Link Thank you to everyone who has responded. Let me give a little more info on the situation. I will try and be as thorough as possible. - I have a 2010 27" iMac. It has been calibrated, but not with any optical device such as X-Rite, etc... I don't believe this is the problem, if it were a monitor calibration issue I would be getting sleight color differences. I am getting extreme color shifts and images that are completely unusable. - The printer is an Epson Stylus Pro 7600 with Ultrachrome Inks I have checked all the heads and nozzles, there are no clogs. The nozzle checks, and test prints are all fine. - I have downloaded the Epson icc color profiles created by Bill Atkinson (I have the profiles for all paper types - I am currently using a 24" roll of Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper (260) When I print from Photoshop I use the following settings Let me know if I missed anything. I will continue to try and troubleshoot and update as I go. Thank you again for taking the time to give your input. Apr 24 13 05:23 pm Link If you have light room you could test from there to see if you were having the same problem. I use an epson 7800 which is very similar to the 7600. I have had problems printing from CS4 so I use CS2 for printing. Lightroom gets close. You could always try a different profile to see if the one you are using is corrupted. I get my profiles from the manufacturer of the paper. Apr 24 13 05:39 pm Link TrickProductions wrote: you have to uncheck match print color, then go to printer setting and in color settings you have to check (off no color adjustment,) if perceptual is not working try relative colorimetric this is how I get super close to my printing using epson and premiun luster paper. Apr 24 13 05:45 pm Link 365 Digitals Exposed wrote: Thanks! I'll try that and see if it works. I appreciate the help. Apr 24 13 05:53 pm Link TrickProductions wrote: forgot to mention I always buy the 4x5 luster paper to print in small first and than I do the big print . good luck check this out. Apr 24 13 06:03 pm Link Qimage is your friend. I've been using it for over 10 years. I do not print anything without it. http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ -Koa- www.borikenwarrior.com www.facebook.com/borikenwarriorstudiosmodels Apr 24 13 06:10 pm Link 365 Digitals Exposed wrote: That link is a great reference. And I like the idea of printing a smaller test first. I will test everything out first thing tomorrow. Apr 24 13 06:54 pm Link I am happy to report that after reading through all the responses as well as reading some information from links posted, I was able to get great prints. My new workflow goes as follows. Prepare image in photoshop Convert the image to the appropriate color profile Then in the print dialog box assign photoshop to manage colors, set the appropriate paper profile, set to perceptual, then go to the actual printer options. From there I make sure "no color management" is selected. I select the matching paper type and set it to print at the highest resolution. Once I did all of that, I get a great print with accurate colors. I do have one more question for my Epson users out there. Right now it takes almost 2 hours to print a 24"x36" print. But there is a checkbox for "high speed". How much time difference does that make and does the quality of the print suffer at all? Thanks for anyone who has and will contribute to the conversation. Apr 25 13 01:36 pm Link 365 Digitals Exposed wrote: Yes this, I buy 100 sheet boxes of 4*5 for test prints. Apr 25 13 01:40 pm Link Very minimal difference with high speed vs best quality. You will also save a little ink by going high speed. You can also save significant time by selecting a lower resolution than the max of the printer. Generally 300dpi is likely good enough and much faster again while using less ink. Apr 25 13 01:50 pm Link 7600 doesn't have tray feed. 8x10 is the smallest sheet, or ten inch roll. High speed off can make a difference in quality control, depending on the media being used. Printing is not always a "turn-key" operation and getting the best quality or "image making" means being open to trying different options and tweaking profiles, e.g., adjusting ink density and head pass drying times. Apr 25 13 01:58 pm Link Not sure if it's different on the larger format printers but on my desktop Epson, high-speed meant that it printed going in both directions, and the quality was the same. Apr 25 13 02:27 pm Link TrickProductions wrote: I print with an epson 7800 and rarely go over 300 dpi. Depending on the subject, I have printed as low as 270dpi for a 16X20 that was in a museum show...the resolution was fine. Usually the larger an image is, people tend to stand back away from it. You are using a lot of ink the way you are going. Apr 25 13 04:21 pm Link I'm in the market for a new printer. I currently have an Epson R2400 that I use for knock around stuff and the rest of the time I have Duggal make prints for me. I was going to get the 3880 as a replacement, but every time I go down this road, I think about getting a BIG printer. Honestly though, I don't know if I can justify the cost. How much of a headache are they to maintain? Apr 25 13 05:44 pm Link Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: I know several people who own them. Apr 25 13 06:46 pm Link Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: I have a 3880 and it is a very nice printer. Minimal maintenance is change out the maintenance tank (or pad) once it gets full. Never has clogged - yet. Apr 25 13 07:17 pm Link |