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Models have you ever had a "skeevy" experience
Meghan Hale wrote: Curious who #1 was... I know who #2 was of course. Something like that can really, really kill your rep fast. I think that guy has come up almost every time I have talked to a model for any length of time... Jun 24 13 08:06 pm Link logic11 wrote: That's gross Jun 24 13 08:10 pm Link Guilty! I got "Skeevy" with my model when shooting for the Nikon Calendar a few years ago...  Seemed to work for me, we are getting married this Sunday.  Jun 24 13 08:11 pm Link -The Dave- wrote: Awwwwww, so cute! Congrats! Jun 24 13 08:17 pm Link Paige Morgan wrote: Same here. Jun 24 13 08:39 pm Link -The Dave- wrote: Huge congrats!!!! Jun 24 13 08:46 pm Link Star wrote: YES! There was the time when a female photographer wanted me to bring my motorcycle into her studio. Then, she made me take off my shirt, so I could start making out on my motorcycle with one of her female models! Jun 24 13 08:50 pm Link im just wondering who the "population at large" is? who else reads these boards besides people on MM More good than bad experiences, but one boderline creepy, one totally skeevy, and one just borderline inappropriate totally skeevy, I showed up to shoot at a nice hotel they guy travels for his job, turns out his job is too cheap to not give him a room mate the room mate plants himself on the other bed and "uses his iphone" the whole almost two hours we shot, in hindsight not only watching us/me which i just tried to ignore but probably also could have video'd me as well he burns a disc for me, apologizes about "the room mate thing" the next day when i use my MM to email him his icon is different and his name is different he is suddenly going by "Underage hotties" or something equally foul. I never used a single image and the one image i did use I dont credit him for because if someone clicked on his profile I would die of shame borderline creepy is too lengthy to explain but suffice it to say when i showed up for a shoot he neglected to tell me he shot at his house in a gated community, and then a girl answered his "office phone" and said WHO'S THIS?!!! boderline creepy is commenting on my nipples and that they are fantastic while trapped at an outdoor shoot in another state with this person *they are fantastic but that's not your right to say mr photographer Jun 24 13 09:02 pm Link These kinds of drama promoting posts are why I have migrated to facebook more and more - working relationships with less experienced models I have connected with through MM are quite often just infected from the start with the assumption that I am a perv until or unless I prove otherwise due to all of this drama - I frankly don't care to walk on eggshells... whereas when I am contacted through facebook there is a greatly more positive attitude from the very beginning - all of this drama mongering is doing a huge disservice - most especially to less experienced models and photographers who have a hard time getting started anyway.... Jun 24 13 09:18 pm Link ontherocks wrote: Banned? By whom? The photo police? Jun 24 13 09:19 pm Link Star wrote: Check out the gigs section of Craigslist. There's lots of creepy stuff going on there. Jun 24 13 09:39 pm Link Fotografica Gregor wrote: Well said. Jun 24 13 09:39 pm Link KATHY JEAN wrote: I agree 1000%.... That was wrong thinking on steroids Jun 25 13 04:58 am Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Then I guess it's a good thing she didn't compare the two, and was rather wondering what your opinions on the subject were based around a conversation she had with some of her friends (who unmistakably are sex workers, and probably don't get as up-in-arms about it as most of the people here seem to have). The OP never called or related any nude or boudoir model to sex work. Jun 25 13 08:19 am Link I have never been groped, propositioned, or spoken to in an obviously sexually inappropriate manner by a photographer at a shoot. Yes, sure, I have gotten inappropriate messages, but those are not people I later shot with. Recently a photographer I shot with years ago did make a somewhat pervy comment about wishing I would "show my pussy," but he was fine when we did shoot, and I probably would not shoot with him again anyway. I am not sure if I have been lucky or if people just know I really will not stand for that nonsense. Probably a combination of the two. Apparently I also have a reputation for being pretty straightforward about my limits and if something is looking close I will stop and ask about it (or generally discuss it beforehand if it was planned). And it kind of annoys me in an odd way. Mainly because some of these photographers who are fine with me end up doing or saying something stupid with another model and it totally ruins my reference credibility for that person, I imagine. That is why now when I give a reference, I make sure to mention how long ago I shot with the person and I insist that the model asking find a few other references, especially most recent ones. Jun 25 13 08:40 am Link K I C K H A M wrote: I totally get what you're saying. Given that a lot of glamour work is focused on selling the model as the ideal fantasy dream girl, it's probably a bit more common for dumb people to attempt to cross lines, not separating the person from the idealized image. Jun 25 13 09:32 am Link I've been modeling for under a year and have so far had two very uncomfortable situations with photographers. Both of which included attempting to get me in less clothes than I was comfortable in and unwarranted touching. The first situation also included the photographer trying to get me to drink alcohol before the shoot in order to "relax", making personal and inappropriate comments about my body, asking me to stay at his place, texting me inappropriate messages after the shoot, etc. So it definitely happens! Jun 25 13 09:39 am Link Yep! Had that experience. And I refuse to work w/ that individual after my first shoot w/ him. While he keeps on begging, I shoot with him. NEVER!!! Star wrote: Jun 25 13 09:41 am Link Antier wrote: Ah same thing happened to me last week! A photographer, without any warning, shoved his hand down my swimtop and "readjusted" both of my breasts. It was terrifying. Like who the hell thinks that's okay? Jun 25 13 09:42 am Link by the legal system is what i was told. his wife had to take over shooting duties for their boudoir business. V Laroche wrote: Jun 25 13 09:44 am Link There are 3-4 photographers here in Cleveland that still go on to this day and have a long history of incidents. We do what we can to spread the word, but when their target audience is newbs, that's just very difficult. One does not even take their own pictures, he steals them from online, even from here on MM. He photoshops himself with cameras and claims to be a National Geographic photographer. He has tried to lure women to his place for a "shoot" and photography "lessons". One had an active rape case against him, but he still goes on. Jun 25 13 09:55 am Link Wow! What a seriously sad thread. And I mean 'sad' as in 'it makes me feel sad' to read all of this. I don't know why many of you bother modelling with all of this allegedly happening to you. In some cases 50% of the time.  Jun 25 13 09:58 am Link I've only had one really skeevy experience on a shoot. I was terrified, which the person seemed to get off on, and there is no doubt in my mind that he intended to do me harm. Luckily the circumstances prevented him from doing so. He withheld my compensation as well. He is in Scandinavia and I am happy to tell any models working in Scandinavia who it is. Other than that, yes, photographers flirt, yes, I have been propositioned. Do I think that is anywhere near ok? No. But I am a grown woman and that's nothing I can't handle. Also, fortunately, after years of experience I now have a decent bullshit detector and a pretty thorough screening process. Jun 25 13 10:01 am Link Babalon Salome wrote: I cannot tell you how important that is! Jun 25 13 10:03 am Link GPS Studio Services wrote: True. Jun 25 13 10:04 am Link Drew Smith Photography wrote: It took me about six years of modeling to get it properly adjusted. Jun 25 13 10:06 am Link I had one really gross experience. The photographer started making comments about all the "improvements" I could make to my body - eat less so I could bring out my "anorexic ribs" (his words), get my boobs done, get the fat in my belly transferred to my ass, start tightlacing...all while invading my personal "bubble". He seemed almost turned on by the idea of trying to fix me. I carry a knive, and I pulled it on him. Problem solved. (Didn't actually use it, it just scares the hell out of people!) Jun 25 13 10:07 am Link I've had a couple brushes of creepyness. Just turned 18 and was shooting an implied "art" portraits and lingerie TF, got to the end of the shoot but I wasn't too pleased with the results and was also taking abit longer than I hoped. He kept asking if we could shoot glamour nude/topless, and I tried my best to avoid it and be polite, but ended up just putting my clothes back on quickly and left. For months after the kept messaging me/emailing me, asking to shoot again etc, I told him after the first email that I wasn't able to shoot with him anymore, and would appreciate him stop emailing me random photos from the shoot that I didn't need. about 4 months after the shoot i got a voicemail from this guy on my phone, the only way he could have got my number is by asking another local photographer who I was talking to at the time for a shoot. I was a bit weirded out, but ignored it. a week later I got a text from him, and then a message on here, but by that time I was moving down south and sent him a very clear message that we were never going to shoot. Another sort of "skeevish" behaviour was a nude shoot where I traveled, and then the photographer came to pick me up and drive to the lcoation. 5 minutes into the drive he admitted he had a terribly hangover, and stopped to pick up a 4 can of beer to settle his hangover stomache, which might have made sense in the comfort of your house, but not when you're driving to a country location. I sort of laughed it off a bit, but was a bit like WTF ARE YOU PLAYING AT? Last thing I can think of, which was more funny than anything, but a bit awkward obviously: nude shoot in a barren location/building, was sitting against a wall or something and without a word or warning the photographer leans down nice and close touches my thigh lightly and says: could you move half a bum cheek to the left. I just about lost my shit laughing because I was like are you for cereal? Obviosuly felt a bit uncomfortable about the sudden interaction, but luckily I'm ok to look after myself if something did happen. Jun 25 13 10:20 am Link Leah Marlow wrote: ok pulling a knife seems a bit ott Jun 25 13 10:23 am Link logic11 wrote: I don't even think #1 was from around here. Found the ad on kijiji and she started being skeevy before I actually got real information. Jun 25 13 10:34 am Link Leah Marlow wrote: New thread idea: Photographers, have you ever had a model threaten you with violence? Jun 25 13 10:42 am Link Leah Marlow wrote: I can hear the sound of people crossing you off their "want to work with" lists from here! Jun 25 13 10:43 am Link Leah Marlow wrote: SPV Photo wrote: I was thinking the same thing. Jun 25 13 10:52 am Link Star wrote: Yes, but I prefer not to publicly mention those. Jun 25 13 10:53 am Link SPV Photo wrote: Yes, all the time but I'm still marrying her this Sunday Jun 25 13 10:56 am Link -The Dave- wrote: Well sure, you're probably afraid not to! Jun 25 13 11:17 am Link Fotografica Gregor wrote: While I see your point-- this is important. Jun 25 13 11:18 am Link This is why the first thing I say about me is that I won't try to "date" you. I refrain from physicaly touching the model and if I must adjust her hair or an outfit she has on - I ask her twice. Other than that I remain at least 5 feet away from her at all times. The first thing my mentor taught me is "don't get inappropriate with the models". I once worked with another photographer who talked constantly about how much he wanted to sleep with the models and I kept thinking of how bad that must make us all look. As a photographer who approaches this as an art, I'm offended when models are treated this way....it makes it that much harder for the rest of us photograhers who arent like that. Jun 25 13 12:36 pm Link Star wrote: You've done this thread several times. Jun 25 13 02:17 pm Link
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