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Model Sarah
Posts: 40987
Columbus, Ohio, US
Giuseppe Luzio wrote:
she has a pint to proofs heres OKAYZ!. and is not being a gurmaticlee currects pursuns! Is about peeple and helths and selfs! Okayz! 
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Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Model Sarah wrote:
Fashion/runway models are clothes hangers. They are there to accentuate the clothing. It has nothing to do with THEM as models/women/people. I don't understand how hard that is to wrap the mind around. Oh, lady!
It's just as hard as wrapping your mind around NOT all nudie models do pornz...
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8094
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
I'm morbidly obese myself. However, I'm losing my extra weight now and have been on a good weight-loss plan for some time now. Every week I see the results and celebrate my victories, even the small ones. This week, I dropped another pant size and have fit into some old jeans I haven't worn in years. Seriously, that felt WAY cool and in about 2 or 3 months I'll be able to fit back into my favorite shirt. I didn't get this way over night and I certainly won't lose the excess weight over night either. It's a slow process. That said, I blame NOBODY but myself for how I got the way I got. I don't blame McDonalds. I don't blame society. I blame ME. It's 100% my fault and I hold nobody at fault but myself for me getting the way I got. I was a jock in high school and college and I just did not pay attention to my body and my eating habits and I let this happen. It's my fault, and I'm doing something about it. This kid however, is off her fucking rocker. At 16, I cannot testify as to how she got to be 300+ pounds unless her diet growing up was soda and cookies and perhaps she has a medial issue which aided in her obesity. I don't know. But rather than take responsibility for her weight, she decided that everyone else needs to change to accommodate her. There is no question that she is a product of the "Everybody gets a trophy" Gimme Generation. To me though, the real scary part of this entire story isn't that she is looking for signatures or that she has the writing ability of a 7 year old, the real frightening part is all of the people who are leaving comments with their signatures completely coddling her insanity. Again, everybody gets a trophy! ![https://media.giphy.com/media/Oqy8rcWoCx64o/giphy.gif]()
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Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
^^^^^ Standing ovation for you, Sir. On all of the above! My mom was skinnier than I ever will be before she had... me.  Never dropped the baby weight, tried literally dozens of diets, only to yoyo, of course. Now she's 'Oh, bring me some fancy weight loss pills from the States'.. If it hadn't been a phone conversation, I'd have bitch slapped my own mommy!!! And a note on the 'restricted movement' thing: Google "Rosalie Bradford". A woman who, at her heaviest weighed 1199 lbs. She started CLAPPING HER HANDS for exercise ('the only movement she could perform at that point') along to a Richard Simmons tape (a fucking tape!!!). She started minding her diet and after a year she had dropped 420 lbs.
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David Kirk
Posts: 4852
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
rfordphotos wrote:
...
We seem to be growing a bumper crop of kids who just dont have a solid (or in cases like this, -any-) connection to reality.
Sad. I agree and social media has become the megaphone for these completely delusional folks who feel that they are entitled to whatever anyone else has with no concept of what it means to earn something.
I sure hope my kids end up with a far better grasp of reality than this chick.
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Commercial Works Photo
Posts: 276
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, US
From the article:
"it is not fair that modelling companys can say this is whats beautiful."
I suppose it is also not fair that like the modeling industry, other companies have set a certain criterion as to who qualifies to be a member.
I for one am glad this brave young illiterate woman has shown me that it is not my fault that I am not an astronaut or a doctor, or a professional baseball player. It is these discriminatory companies and their stupid set of "standards" that are preventing me from being successful.
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2521
Brooklyn, New York, US
Can somebody direct me to the skinny bashing thread ?
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Call Me Caitlin wrote:
https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/ … inny-curvy
at 5'3" and 330 lbs, i would assume your "walk" is more of a waddle. This is what I wrote on Ally's Facebook Fan Page
"Dear Ally!
I have read your change.org petition and I understand your desire to be accepted on the runway, just as Millions other young girls do who aspire the same.
However, I urge you to keep an open mind about what I have to say, because you need to understand the function and process of a fashion show and what it takes for a designer to put the show together.
Let me first say that modeling fashion on the runway is not a human right, it is a privilege. Modeling is about a multi-Billion Dollars industry, it is a business to sell garments and it is not about the wishes and desires of young ladies that won't fit into the sample clothing.
There is a very practical reason for it and I hope you understand the logic behind it.
Every designer goes through various steps of creating a unique sample of a garment that they are trying to show to the public. There is the concept the sketch and then the one piece is being individually sewn together on a mannequin, that has specific measurements (34-24-34B). Often the fabrics being used are very expensive and many designers working on a budget.
Btw., even with the standard figures of runway models, there are slight differences in built... and those can be handled and adjusted at the fitting, which is days before the actual show.
Here is the key advantage for the ONE sample size: Every model, of the 15 (often up to 35) models has to be able to fit into the same dress for a variety of reasons. A model doesn't show up, is sick... something always happens and other models have to be able to substitute "on the fly"... and it's very, very hectic backstage.
At this point, I should mention that I shot over 1,400 fashion shows in NYC, I am part of the international press corp that covers New York Fashion Week, I am also involved in fashion show production and work with a ton of designers on various stages of development, meaning, I am pretty much involved in the fashion industry, hence my knowledge of the backstage action. 
Anyway, now imagine that there would be a mix of body sizes in a fashion show... it is possible of course, but... each garment has to be fitted for one particular model, let's say you! From the beginning to the end, the one piece of garment has to be done for you and each of the other shaped models as well... (which is done in case of a celebrity walking in the show!)
Now... what would happen if you, or any of the other models are not showing up... nobody else will fit into the custom made garment and this piece will not be on the runway, because it would look only good on you!
If all the models have the same measurements, the garments are interchangeable.
Does that make sense?
Fashion shows, such as New York Fashion Week are INDUSTRY events... it is for the buyers, the magazine editors etc., the people you see in the front row.
The buyers, the people who select the garments for their departments stores, from Target to Bloomingdales making notes on their "run of show" sheets, which shows the exact sequence the models are coming out with, in which outfit they are interested in.
A few days after the show, the buyers make appointments with the designer in their showrooms and then the selected garments are coming back out on one of the models and the buyers discuss changes that have to be made and how many are being ordered for the next season.
Next step is catalog work and for catalogs you have a more diverse looks and body sizes as models, because that's now for the "regular" people and the public.
However... there are a ton of local, small fashion shows, with very local designers who put fashion shows together that are not meant for the fashion industry, but to show the local audience what they have created as designers (I worked with this kind of fashion shows as well)... and often they do use models of all kinds of shapes ranging from your stats to "beanpoles" with tattoos etc. (btw., I have a traditional Japanese suit, and I am pro-tattoo!).
The attached photo is a finalist designer from Project Runway, I shot a few years ago. This illustrates differences in height on the runway.
I am aware that I didn't address every aspect of runway modeling, but I really hope that I have made that process clear so that you and your readers understand the nature of the business and don't feel hurt.
An excellent resource is the website www.newmodels.com, maintained by my friend and colleague Roger Talley who is also the author of the book "A Professional's Guide to Modeling" (pictured in the link).
If you have any other questions, I will try to answer them, otherwise, good luck with everything, Ally! "
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8094
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
udor wrote:
This is what I wrote on Ally's Facebook Fan Page Udor, what you posted was an extremely well written and articulate explanation of the details of the industry. Unfortunately, her response and defensiveness of her point was exactly what I expected her to write. It was childish and immature and coming from someone who is 16 years old, obviously not that bright, and inexperienced in the world in general. She feels as though she has some right to challenge the world and she believes she is right in her cause, no matter how flawed her way of thinking is. It's sad, but I have a feeling what you wrote fell on deaf ears. Perhaps when she is a little older and a little more mature she'll realize the err of her ways. Until then, she's just a spoiled little victim of the Gimme Generation and she's awaiting her trophy for participation.
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8094
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
This was my response:
Hi Ally. I too have read your petition and your postings here. Someone I have had the pleasure of interacting with from time to time has also posted on here earlier (Udor). While I do not have the background in the fashion industry that he does, I do share a commonality of our industry having been a professional photographer for over 15 years. My work has been published around the world and I am blessed to have many high-profile people and Fortune 500 companies that I can say are clients of mine.
That said, I find that you are taking a position on a topic that may seem noble in its efforts, but are based on a misguided view of the world that could only come from the innocence and ignorance of someone in their mid teens. I can say this because, as you are now, I was once your age as well and back when I was 16, I knew everything about everything. All the adults around me were morons, the world wasn't a fair place, and I needed to fix it as well. My place in the world though was not unique, even though I thought it was at the time. The few exceptions to this were my friends who I saw as also going through the same plight as me.
Fast forward 28 years and I see the world much differently now. I have had the luxury of traveling the world many times. I have seen and experienced things from dozens of different cultures on several different continents. I have participated and immersed myself in different cultures and lifestyles that very few people ever have. For that, I find myself very fortunate.
When I was young and immature, as you are now, I used to think of people such as my parents as the dumbest people in the world to think the way they think. Today, my father who is 83 years old, I have come to recognize as being one of the wisest and most amazing people I have ever known. His life experiences have so far trumped anything of any intellect I ever had in my youth...or at least I thought I had. Make no bones about it, do not confuse intellect with wisdom as more often than not, the two have little to do with one another.
What people, such as Udor have, is wisdom. He is wise beyond anything you will ever know about this industry, certainly at your age. Understand, you are conversing with someone who was immersed in this industry before you were even conceived. You really need to think about that for a moment. So while you may think that your intellect and rationality in your petition may make you seem smart to your peers, I can assure you, the people who actually do know about this industry see you as a spoiled little girl who is a victim of the "Gimme Generation" where everyone deserves a trophy just for showing up. Your ranting and your defensiveness of your responses are evidence of that.
There are resources that Udor provided you which I highly encourage you to read front to back. My suspicion is, you won't, because you are making a choice to take a stand rather than be actually educated as to the inner workings of the industry you are railing against, but I hope you prove me wrong.
One last thing I would like to impress upon you though. You need to understand one very crucial element of life. Contrary to what you might think, life is not fair. Nobody owes you anything...ever. There are standards for everything in this world and once you depart your parents' home and leave the educational environment you are in right now, you will discover that the world will have demands upon you and will require you to produce results. Those results will also be required by people who will judge you in ways that often may seem unfair. They will judge you on your experience. They will judge you on your attire. They will certainly judge you on your ability to effectively communicate and they will always judge you on how you look. Making demands on the world to conform to your whims and demands is an urealistic view of how the world works, but it's a common way of looking at the world when you are an idealistic 16 year old. Unfortunately, the real world will chew up and spit out people with this sort of attitude all day long and there is not one single, solitary thing you are going to do about it.
I'm 44 years old, big and goofy looking. My chances of becoming a Calvin Klein underwear model is 0%. So rather than shake my fist in the air and demand that the industry allow big, overweight, dopey and balding guys like me in their fashion shows, I need to choose a diffent route and strive to be the best at what I AM good at and that is being a photographer. So stop being so concerned about the rest of the world modling to you, and you need to be better at molding to the world. Ebrace what you are good at and strive to be the best at it, whether it's math, science, poetry, entrepreneurship, you name it. But making irrational demands thta the world conform to your whims is a sign of immaturity that you will, hopefully, eventually grow out of. You just need to trust in the fact that some of us professionals who have been around the block a few thousand times more than you actually know a bit of what we are talking about and recognize that your motives are more transparent than you may realize.
I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors, whatever they may be, even though they may not, and probably will not, be fashion modeling as you are right now. The key is to embrace that rather than fight it. You'll find the world is a much better place that way.
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Jay Leavitt
Posts: 6745
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Runway isn't for the models... "Everyone should be able to walk the runway" everyone CAN... if there's a clothing line for 330lb 5'3 people there will be a runway for that.
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Surely she can't really be 330 at 5'3.
https://www.facebook.com/AllyHopeMcNair/photos
I would guess about HALF that. Shot from close up with a wide angle lens...
She's got a fan pic of Justin Bieber there - now I'd put a $20 in the jug to see her try to make a Belieber out of him...
Poor girl - she's right to dream big but really this is not a battle she is going to even lose without a lot of heartache let alone win.
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Am i the only one who finds it weird and kinda creepy a bunch of grown ass men are trolling her facebook page?  Wtf is that? Opinions aside, the legitimacy of her cause or not...or whether it is gonna change anything is irrelevant..who has the time for these giant ass essays? get lives? Adam's post is pretty nice, pretty respectable..level headed, open. I didn't read all of it but this is good: I need to choose a diffent route and strive to be the best at what I AM good at and that is being a photographer. So stop being so concerned about the rest of the world modling to you, and you need to be better at molding to the world. Ebrace what you are good at and strive to be the best at it, whether it's math, science, poetry, entrepreneurship, you name it ...but Udor, what the hell was that condescending bullshit? Particularly this:
I am sorry, but I am out of this conversation now. I have taken the time to explain the industry. You disagree, that is fine. I have to edit photos now. Good luck with your cause!
...
Good luck with everything, I am out! Yeahhhhh....sorry, that comes across as really really immature.
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Rp-photo
Posts: 42711
Houston, Texas, US
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scrymettet
Posts: 33239
Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Shot By Adam wrote:
...She feels as though she has some right to challenge the world and she believes she is right in her cause, no matter how flawed her way of thinking is... that's what 16 years should do.
dream big and act.
life will teach them lessons and they will mature.
in this case, I am more concern by her long term health than the ineptitude of her crusade
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Shot By Adam wrote:
This was my response:
Hi Ally. I too have read your petition and your postings here. Someone I have had the pleasure of interacting with from time to time has also posted on here earlier (Udor). While I do not have the background in the fashion industry that he does, I do share a commonality of our industry having been a professional photographer for over 15 years. My work has been published around the world and I am blessed to have many high-profile people and Fortune 500 companies that I can say are clients of mine.
That said, I find that you are taking a position on a topic that may seem noble in its efforts, but are based on a misguided view of the world that could only come from the innocence and ignorance of someone in their mid teens. I can say this because, as you are now, I was once your age as well and back when I was 16, I knew everything about everything. All the adults around me were morons, the world wasn't a fair place, and I needed to fix it as well. My place in the world though was not unique, even though I thought it was at the time. The few exceptions to this were my friends who I saw as also going through the same plight as me.
Fast forward 28 years and I see the world much differently now. I have had the luxury of traveling the world many times. I have seen and experienced things from dozens of different cultures on several different continents. I have participated and immersed myself in different cultures and lifestyles that very few people ever have. For that, I find myself very fortunate.
When I was young and immature, as you are now, I used to think of people such as my parents as the dumbest people in the world to think the way they think. Today, my father who is 83 years old, I have come to recognize as being one of the wisest and most amazing people I have ever known. His life experiences have so far trumped anything of any intellect I ever had in my youth...or at least I thought I had. Make no bones about it, do not confuse intellect with wisdom as more often than not, the two have little to do with one another.
What people, such as Udor have, is wisdom. He is wise beyond anything you will ever know about this industry, certainly at your age. Understand, you are conversing with someone who was immersed in this industry before you were even conceived. You really need to think about that for a moment. So while you may think that your intellect and rationality in your petition may make you seem smart to your peers, I can assure you, the people who actually do know about this industry see you as a spoiled little girl who is a victim of the "Gimme Generation" where everyone deserves a trophy just for showing up. Your ranting and your defensiveness of your responses are evidence of that.
There are resources that Udor provided you which I highly encourage you to read front to back. My suspicion is, you won't, because you are making a choice to take a stand rather than be actually educated as to the inner workings of the industry you are railing against, but I hope you prove me wrong.
One last thing I would like to impress upon you though. You need to understand one very crucial element of life. Contrary to what you might think, life is not fair. Nobody owes you anything...ever. There are standards for everything in this world and once you depart your parents' home and leave the educational environment you are in right now, you will discover that the world will have demands upon you and will require you to produce results. Those results will also be required by people who will judge you in ways that often may seem unfair. They will judge you on your experience. They will judge you on your attire. They will certainly judge you on your ability to effectively communicate and they will always judge you on how you look. Making demands on the world to conform to your whims and demands is an urealistic view of how the world works, but it's a common way of looking at the world when you are an idealistic 16 year old. Unfortunately, the real world will chew up and spit out people with this sort of attitude all day long and there is not one single, solitary thing you are going to do about it.
I'm 44 years old, big and goofy looking. My chances of becoming a Calvin Klein underwear model is 0%. So rather than shake my fist in the air and demand that the industry allow big, overweight, dopey and balding guys like me in their fashion shows, I need to choose a diffent route and strive to be the best at what I AM good at and that is being a photographer. So stop being so concerned about the rest of the world modling to you, and you need to be better at molding to the world. Ebrace what you are good at and strive to be the best at it, whether it's math, science, poetry, entrepreneurship, you name it. But making irrational demands thta the world conform to your whims is a sign of immaturity that you will, hopefully, eventually grow out of. You just need to trust in the fact that some of us professionals who have been around the block a few thousand times more than you actually know a bit of what we are talking about and recognize that your motives are more transparent than you may realize.
I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors, whatever they may be, even though they may not, and probably will not, be fashion modeling as you are right now. The key is to embrace that rather than fight it. You'll find the world is a much better place that way. When I was young and immature, as you are now, ....
Wow - just wow.
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
scrymettet wrote:
that's what 16 years should do.
dream big and act.
life will teach them lessons and they will mature.
in this case, I am more concern by her long term health than the ineptitude of her crusade +1
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Karl JW Johnston wrote:
Am i the only one who finds it weird and kinda creepy a bunch of grown ass men are trolling her facebook page? Wtf is that?
Opinions aside, and the legitimacy of her cause or not... get lives? hahaha
Adam's post is pretty nice, pretty respectable..level headed, open. ..but Udor, what the hell was that condescending bullshit? Particularly this: Excuse me?
What the fuck are you talking about Karl???
I have been polite and took time to explain her how this industry works, considering that she is 16 years of age and started a petition.
If you think that educating a young person who is launching a petition to change an industry is trolling... then you and I have nothing to discuss!
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Mark Salo
Posts: 11725
Olney, Maryland, US
Call Me Caitlin wrote:
https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/ … inny-curvy
at 5'3" and 330 lbs, i would assume your "walk" is more of a waddle. Caitlin,
I'm not going to read any of this thread past your OP.
You are a lovely model and you should not lower yourself to worry about such nonsense.
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
udor wrote:
then you and I have nothing to discuss! I am sorry, udor, but I am out of this conversation now. I have taken the time to explain myself. You disagree, that is fine. I have real work to get to. Good luck with your cause!
Good luck with everything, I am out!
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Lumen Sky
Posts: 1802
Center Moriches, New York, US
Virtual Studio wrote:
When I was young and immature, as you are now, ....
Wow - just wow. agreed.
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Lumen Sky
Posts: 1802
Center Moriches, New York, US
scrymettet wrote:
that's what 16 years should do.
dream big and act.
life will teach them lessons and they will mature.
in this case, I am more concern by her long term health than the ineptitude of her crusade this
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Karl JW Johnston wrote:
I am sorry, udor, but I am out of this conversation now. I have taken the time to explain myself. You disagree, that is fine. I have real work to get to. Good luck with your cause!
Good luck with everything, I am out! My "cause"???
You have explained nothing Karl!
I don't know what your "real work" is, but my real work is the fashion industry in NYC, and if a person launches an international petition about an issue that is far removed from reality, displaying complete ignorance about the realities of that exact industry, I am educating.
So, Karl... would you please demonstrate which part of my post to her was wrong, in any way!
Please, humour me and show me what was wrong about my information... and... what qualifies you to do so!
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
udor wrote:
Excuse me?
What the fuck are you talking about Karl???
I have been polite and took time to explain her how this industry works, considering that she is 16 years of age and started a petition.
If you think that educating a young person who is launching a petition to change an industry is trolling... then you and I have nothing to discuss! FWITW - I thought you were super nice. Pretty much the right tone too.
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
udor wrote:
My "cause"???
You have explained nothing Karl!
I don't know what your "real work" is, but my real work is the fashion industry in NYC, and if a person launches an international petition about an issue that is far removed from reality, displaying complete ignorance about the realities of that exact industry, I am educating.
So, Karl... would you please demonstrate which part of my post to her was wrong, in any way!
Please, humour me! I'm sure your "real work" must be pretty busy if you have the time to "educate" and argue with a random teenager about a silly topic. I just turned what you said to her back on yourself, doesn't feel too good does it?
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Virtual Studio wrote:
FWITW - I thought you were super nice. Pretty much the right tone too. Posting drunk shortens my fuse and patience and I get faster to the point!
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Karl JW Johnston wrote:
I'm sure your "real work" must be pretty busy if you have the time to "educate" and argue with a random teenager about a silly topic. Yes... the advantages of being a freelancer... posting just in between of editing shoots of a NY designer's lookbook and shooting the heiress of one of the most recognized names of old American money and her new fashion line (shot yesterday for a NYC based magazine).
So, Karl, what is YOUR real life job that qualifies you to say that my info to that girl was wrong!
FWI: I even find time to eat... sleep and socialize on my schedule... how cool is THAT???
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Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 8283
Tucson, Arizona, US
Patrick Walberg wrote:
SO MUCH PHOTO SHOP! It's hard to tell. I'm basing what I wrote on if she is telling the truth. But even if she were 5' 3" and 103 lbs, she is still not being realistic about changing an entire industry. You really think she knows how to Photoshop an image like this to look smaller? Most professional retouchers would have a hard time with the wrinkles in the sleeves and the pattern of the shirt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid … 648%2C1333
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
udor wrote:
Yes... the advantages of being a freelancer... posting just in between of editing shoots of a NY designer's lookbook and shooting the heiress of one of the most recognized names of old American money and her new fashion line (shot yesterday for a NYC based magazine).
So, Karl, what is YOUR real life job that qualifies you to say that my info to that girl was wrong! Well, I'm an adult...and I don't get drunk (according to your previous post: udor wrote:
Posting drunk shortens my fuse and patience and I get faster to the point! ...and take it upon myself to explain the world of fashion from my model mayhem perspective to be all that...right..to a child in red deer, alberta.
I'm not addressing the info, I couldn't care less about the cause or the petition but your manner is very immature.
And attitude, quite disgusting.
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Flex Photography
Posts: 6471
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
Considering the recent uproar by models, saying photographers are insensitive & unkind to models in the forums, it is very sad to see the behaviour of models in this thread, towards one of their own! (no matter what her dimensions!) Does little to support the position of your "colleagues"!
A link to this thread needs to be posted in one of the threads site related where models complain about photographers.
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Amadea T wrote:
Okay, I'm gonna go to hell but...
This whole anti-fat-shaming thing is getting real old real fast.
If you want to be, you know, 20 sizes larger than the 'healthy' rest, please, go right ahead.
But please, don't cost more taxes for your damaged organs than the average chain smoker or drunk driver does in the meantime, and for all that's good and fluffy, please, please SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT BEIGN FAT AND ALREADY.
It's not like non-smokers go on about being non-smokers all the fucking time, just like normal people do not harp on about how wonderful it is to be normal sized.
Drink your fucking diet coke, gather your signatures and be fat, but please quit making public addresses out of every goddamn fat-related thing.
The fucking abuse one has to take when one fits in lots more clothes than the average walrus, and then it's all down to the 'good genes?!?!?!?!'
FYI, thin haters, MY ENTIRE FUCKING FAIMILY IS OBESE. NO GENES HERE.
(which reminds me of that story my great-grandfather told me about being a POW, there were NO fat people in any of the concentration camps he's seen... hmmm.... thyroid problems and 'bad genes' must have come about much after WWII)
Fucking first world problems!
Now go adopt a puppy from the shelter!
(there, I fixed it. Hissy fit over.) I'd tax stupid people more too. All that running with sharp objects and voting ....
Costs all of us more money.
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Surely she can't really be 330 at 5'3.
https://www.facebook.com/AllyHopeMcNair/photos
I would guess about HALF that. Just checked out the pictures.
You're right - NFW is she 330lbs. Not even half. This has to be an attention troll - or a very nasty prank by a school friend.
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Andrew Thomas Evans
Posts: 24079
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Meh. Have a drink, smoke a cigar, enjoy life. I doubt some random facebook page or petition is going to change things or require much more thought than "that's silly" and move on. Plus, if she does end up changing the world all it would do is open up more clients for us to shoot and make money from. No big deal. Now back to my cigar and wild hockey. Andrew Thomas Evans www.andrewthomasevans.com
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Andrew Thomas Evans wrote:
Meh.
Have a drink, smoke a cigar, enjoy life.
I doubt some random facebook page or petition is going to change things or require much more thought than "that's silly" and move on. Plus, if she does end up changing the world all it would do is open up more clients for us to shoot and make money from. No big deal.
Now back to my cigar and wild hockey.
Andrew Thomas Evans
www.andrewthomasevans.com ...true true. and yay hockey !
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Bubblegum Betty
Posts: 42
Chicago, Illinois, US
Why isn't there an in between. No, it's not healthy being malnourished..but neither is it being obese. I am no runway model by no means, but even I feel like I could stand to be healthier. I don't mean anorexic but just not a huge fluctuation in size. Some people are meant to be a bit larger than others but if you are obese, that is not natural..you are eating too much and not getting enough exercise and that is not healthy. While I am not obese, I do feel that I could stand to eat better and exercise more..and with a smaller waist and tummy it means less pressure on my organs and less chance of a heart attack or other problems associated with being overweight. However, I do feel the exact opposite is true and that not eating enough of what your body needs makes you at higher risk for bone disease, cardio vascular problems and more. But there is nothing wrong with maintaining your body and wanting to have a good shape, whatever it is for you. Even I admit that I'm not tall and probably will never be a runway shape model, but I'm not trying to be a runway model and I actually don't just want people to see me for my looks but for the hard work I do in other areas as well.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Karl JW Johnston wrote:
...and take it upon myself to explain the world of fashion from my model mayhem perspective to be all that...right..to a child in red deer, alberta.
I'm not addressing the info, I couldn't care less about the cause or the petition but your manner is very immature.
And attitude, quite disgusting. Right.. I see... you really think that my knowledge of the fashion industry comes from a MM perspective!?
You are really misguided and have obviously no idea about my involvement in the actual fashion industry!
You attack my post, attack me and the fact that I attempted to explain, in a non-condescending manner how this industry functions to a young person who started an international campaign to change the fashion industry who obviously doesn't know about it.
You don't even address the points I was making to her and you don't show where I was wrong.
Interesting to notice.
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Andrew Thomas Evans
Posts: 24079
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Plus, this country needs more young people who get involved and try to make a difference. Mis-guided or not she is doing what she feels is right and trying to do something. Now, chances are it won't work out, but I hope she learns from this and keeps trying and keeps trying to make a difference. The country and world need more people like her. As that line in superbad "we need to guide his cock, not block it". So hopefully she keeps her witts about her, keeps up trying to make a difference, and is successful with her life. Andrew Thomas Evans www.andrewthomasevans.com
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Paul AI
Posts: 1046
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US
How did a thread about an overweight teenager turn into a pissing contest?
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Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 8283
Tucson, Arizona, US
Paul AI wrote:
How did a thread about an overweight teenager turn into a pissing contest? Welcome to the Internet.
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Wtf is that? 
