Forums > Model Colloquy > Share your weird (or even bad) experiences?

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Joseph William  wrote:

I would think "everything work end out ok" equals he went to jail

After being group drugged and raped I just cannot see "everything worked out okay" as an acceptable answer in any way.
Jen

Jun 17 14 02:22 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

MB Jen B wrote:

After being group drugged and raped I just cannot see "everything worked out okay" as an acceptable answer in any way.
Jen

I agree.

Jun 17 14 03:26 am Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

I just read the OP.

Speechless.

Jun 17 14 04:34 am Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

MB Jen B wrote:

After being group drugged and raped I just cannot see "everything worked out okay" as an acceptable answer in any way.
Jen

This.

Jun 17 14 04:35 am Link

Photographer

BarryH

Posts: 864

Taipei City, Taipei City, Taiwan

The guy being "sued" is the least of what should have happened to him. After all, he raped unconscious women and provided his own photographic evidence of the crime--and even put it online. I know rape charges can often be hard to prove, but this case seems pretty clear-cut.

Jun 17 14 05:24 am Link

Model

Rockabella

Posts: 588

Bargara, Queensland, Australia

First off, if I am working with someone and they start to make me feel uncomfortable I let them know IMMEDIATELY. I do not let them talk me into things I don't want to do, I do not make compromises and certainly I DO NOT let people just touch me for no reason. I just flat out say no and if they persist, I tell them they can leave, or I will remove myself from the situation. I have a lot of precautions in place in case for my safety since I do most shoots solo. So if anything were to happen to me or if I am not home in time, there are multiple people who know where I am and where I can be reached and who I am with.

I've been roofied before, but it was at a bar straight from the bartender. Luckily, I didn't finish the drink because I knew it tasted funny, I ended up smashing my head falling through a bathroom stall, the owner got a cab for me to go home. It's not a good experience and I am so sorry that happened to you.

Whenever I go to a shoot, I bring my own drinks (i.e. water, iced tea, juice) because I simply do not trust people. I try not to offend people when I decline their hospitality, but I do suffer from, at times pretty severe anxiety. It's always okay to stay within your own comfort zone. Don't ever feel obligated to do ANYTHING.

My best advice to people is, vet the hell out of those you choose to work with, make sure you have precautions in place for your safety and don't let people push you around into situations you don't want to be in no matter how big their name is. On top of that, it isn't always wise to take candy from strangers (i.e. food, drinks, etc).

Again, I am really sorry this happened to you, I would definitely contact authorities  and if they are on this site contact a moderator ASAP!

Jun 18 14 11:11 am Link

Photographer

Michael N P

Posts: 29

Roseville, California, US

J Jessica wrote:
A photographer once told me about his strong belief in other worlds and that we, as Earthlings, are being watched by a higher society of peaceful, yet intelligent, martians.

smile

Maybe he meant the NSA .. smile

Jun 19 14 10:45 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

calliecalypso wrote:
I'm curious as to what to do when a photographer gets a little too touchy-feely/personal/intimate. It's weird because they do great work, have great references, and previously it's all professional. But then things get, well, weird. They'd want more. They'd start "posing" me in ways that feel off. Ask odd questions, etc. I love the work they do and don't want to have my reputation potentially shot by saying anything, especially publicly since they are well known.

I can't tell you what you should do, beyond "tell the photographer to stop it", but this is a conversation I have with every model when she arrives, as part of setting up for the shoot. My approach is to touch as little as possible, never the core (torso, thighs), only approach from the front, make sure the model understands that I'm going to make contact, and by all that's holy, if you don't want me to do any of that, say so up front or before you start to get really uncomfortable. I don't promise up front to never make contact because I'm usually working alone, and there are sometimes situations where it's just not practical. (If the model has said "don't do it", then obviously we move on and try something else when we reach that point. Oh, well, c'est la vie and all that...)

And here's an all out bad experience I had years ago (Trigger warning-):

When I was in college I worked as a gogo dancer. The club booked a shoot with the dancers to use for ads and their website. The photog was a little creepy and decided to pick me and a couple other models for "Special" photos after he did the ones the club wanted. He gave us drinks which turned out to be spiked with roofies. We blacked out and found out later he took pictures of him raping us and sent those images to rape-themed porn sites. I got in trouble with my college and the club got in trouble. Things eventually got straightened out and the club sued the hell out of the guy. But it was awful.  The club was very legit and professional and the owner felt like crap because they had no idea. The photographer did work for many businesses and came off as highly professional with a great portfolio and everything.

If this went down like you say, this guy needed to be prosecuted and sent to jail.

And finally, is it okay to warn other models about photographers you had weird or even bad experiences with or let them go on ahead and see what happens?

I believe you should warn others, yes, but MM doesn't make that easy, and lot of people will say even a "don't recommend" list is going too far.

Jun 20 14 07:11 am Link

Photographer

Michael Alestra

Posts: 539

MOUNT ROYAL, New Jersey, US

the fact that this guy isn't in prison causes me to be a bit skeptical about the original story.

Jun 20 14 08:17 am Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 4288

Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica

The OP made one reply three hours after her original post, and has been on the site since. The fact that she hasn't bothered to come back to her own thread leads me to think 'troll' and 'fear-mongering'.

IMHO

Jun 20 14 08:54 am Link