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golden gate bridge "jumper net" approved.
http://news.yahoo.com/golden-gate-bridg … 11743.html i have no idea what passes for sb material anymore, but i'll try this one out to see if it gets through. i'm just looking for opinions, without them drifting into a political argument. on its face, this is just dumb (imho). i can't even think of any good reason for this. does anyone think that this will quell suicides? of course not. this is an emotional reaction to the amounts of suicides that have taken place at the ggb. supposedly, it will save the coast guard a lot of resources that they have to use for retrieving jumpers. a quick run of the numbers will show that it would take quite a few thwarted rescues to add up to the cost of this net. not only that, but i can only imagine how many jamokes are going to suddenly think it's cool--or funny--to dive into the net. i wonder how many resources there will be needed to pluck these types from the netting. people--unfortunately/sadly--get to the desperate point where they think suicide is their only way out. there isn't a public works solution in that. it's a mental health problem. i can understand how marin county, and san francisco are tired of sharing the dubious fact that the ggb is the most sought out place for people to end their lives, but this appears to be a complete waste of local, state and federal dollars. again, i could mention the political end of it, and the story related specifically to the dude in sf that has spearheaded this campaign, but i'd rather just attempt to keep it at a philosophical level. and yes, i've seen "the bridge", the documentary about one year's worth of suicides from jumping off the bridge. it doesn't alter my feelings on this particular subject. Jun 27 14 01:31 pm Link I've been reading about it too and yes, I've seen 'The Bridge' as well, a few times in fact. I don't like that they are putting nets up AT ALL. I went to school in San Fran and lived there 4 years. I will say however, people that want to die will figure out another way to do it. Falling that far into water is like jumping off a building anyway. Ever do a belly flop? Ever get pummeled by a BIG wave? Water is powerful. Remember that jumper in the documentary that jumped and lived? Yeah, that has to hurt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADxUFAD6eBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwYKs6ssYQI Jun 27 14 01:40 pm Link If people want to kill themselves they will find a way or a place. This money would be better spent on Mental Health and Intervention programs. Jun 27 14 01:45 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: yeah, and i remember the injuries he sustained from surviving. i knew (before what he said) that his spine was going to have taken the worst of it. i had a feeling the t section would be the worst, but he also sustained l fractures. i fell off a ladder years ago from about 25' up, and it compressed a few vertebrae. and shattered my heel as well. Jun 27 14 01:46 pm Link Stephen Fletcher wrote: all true. again, i think sf is just tired of having the stigma attached to the bridge. Jun 27 14 01:52 pm Link Jun 27 14 01:54 pm Link Then you'll see the true colors of SF gov't hacks as the people realize they'd rather have a few dead floating bodies than their precious bridge looking stupid. Jun 27 14 01:57 pm Link Jun 27 14 01:58 pm Link They'll just take a pair of shears, jump into the net and cut their way through. Jun 27 14 02:00 pm Link Christopher Hartman wrote: a. the proposed netting is calling out for stainless steel mesh. hardly anything that a common pair of shears will get through. Jun 27 14 02:06 pm Link One of my friends climbed the bridge to the top... at night with his mountain climbing gear. Man, I had some dare-devil friends. Jun 27 14 02:08 pm Link lol This band got rights to shoot on top. You'll get an idea how high it is... http://youtu.be/4gAsPT-vgeM?t=2m21s Jun 27 14 02:11 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: piker. what good would crampons, carabiners and a pick axe do you on that climb? Jun 27 14 02:21 pm Link GK photo wrote: I hereby nominate the word "just" in this sentence for "understatement of the year 2014". I found it a rather thrilling experience just to cross the bridge by foot on the sidewalk. Jun 27 14 03:30 pm Link TomFRohwer wrote: it would be a lot easier than these chinese logger's ascent. all you have to do is gain access to the main cables. from there, it's just a walk upstairs, more or less. Jun 27 14 03:44 pm Link Fuck no would I ever 'climb' up the Golden Gate bridge lol This guy came to my apartment at Ocean Beach like it was nothing... "So what did you do last night?" Oh, I scaled the GG. ok then! Jun 27 14 03:46 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: I feel dizzy sitting in my chair. Jun 27 14 03:51 pm Link Christopher Hartman wrote: it's funny, i have zero fear of heights, in a situation where i'm anchored to terra firma. now, jumping out of a plane? no fucking way. the height wouldn't bother me; it's that falling thing. Jun 27 14 04:03 pm Link GK photo wrote: I would jump out of a plane and sit on top of the GG but not climb it. Jun 27 14 04:10 pm Link That high up...it is like landing on Concrete. Over 1600 people have committed suicide off the Golden Gate Bridge. Jun 27 14 04:27 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: Ok... but... Jun 27 14 04:33 pm Link J O H N A L L A N wrote: ... because there is a telephone right there to call? Jun 27 14 04:41 pm Link There should be a rotating video of "its a wonderful life" on the bridge. Jun 27 14 05:02 pm Link Stephen Fletcher wrote: This just isn't true. People reconsider suicide all the time. People who have attempted suicide will tell you that they have to work themselves up for it, and if they miss an opportunity it can take a long time before they're ready to do it again, and a lot can and does happen in that time. Jun 27 14 05:13 pm Link $76 million dollars for a steel net, wonder how many people die when the hit the net . . . I say, follow the money, guaranteed this has nothing to do with "preventing" suicides from the GGB, but it sounds good. Jun 27 14 05:13 pm Link I wonder how long until the first lawsuit is filed claiming damages from landing in the net... Jun 27 14 05:20 pm Link Leo Howard wrote: well, it does, and it doesn't. again, i didn't want this discussion to drift into politics; but if you read the story, there's a direct connection to the person who spearheaded the campaign, and his insistence on it being done. Jay Edwards wrote: 8 to 5 within 24 hours of the ribbon cutting. and that's the exact kind of slippery slope this will invariably go down. Jun 27 14 05:44 pm Link The one person that really got to me in 'The Bridge' was Gene. When he jumped it was a beautiful backwards Swan dive, the nicest I've ever seen. http://youtu.be/vhARXu3wWDc?t=44m56s Of course I'm not saying suicide is beautiful yet I mean it in the aesthetic & philosophical sense. Jun 27 14 05:54 pm Link Jay Edwards wrote: OR the Residents: These Nets are blocking my view of Golden Gate Bridge. Or Photographers: These Nets are destroying the beauty of Golden Gate Bridge. Jun 27 14 06:28 pm Link It's going to take three years to install so I wonder how many are going to take a dive before they can't. http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/gol … cti/ngRGm/ Jun 27 14 06:33 pm Link Glad to hear that all of us are contributing $40 million to this worthwhile cause. Wonder how many bridges that are in need of repair could be fixed for $76 million, glad that the highway trust fund is so flush. So next time there is a bridge collapse and someone dies we can all be thankful that some person that wanted to die was saved...unless he had a plan B. Jun 27 14 06:36 pm Link What does God Need with a Star Ship? Then after they jump, and the net saves them. What then? Can they not just go to the end of the Net and Jump? Ok....back to normal. Jun 27 14 06:42 pm Link Published 2/14. ... nearly half (48 percent) of suicide attempt patients reported that the time elapsed from their first thought of suicide to the actual attempt was a mere 10 minutes. Make following through just a little bit harder, and many people will have the time to think twice. In fact, if you take away the means for suicide just once, most people will never try again. http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health- … mic-74801/ Jun 27 14 06:46 pm Link DOUGLASFOTOS wrote: That's a good question. Jun 27 14 06:47 pm Link DOUGLASFOTOS wrote: in the design specs, they claim the jumper would actually become ensnared in the net, like a tuna. i'd love to see that system fail once. and i could imagine the cost of retrieving these folks would be close to what the coast guard has to shell out now in retrieving those who've jumped in. Jun 27 14 07:00 pm Link Thats gonna look super shitty when its full of garbage. I wouldnt want to be the person that has to pick up all the trash that blows / people throw into it. Also, how will they get people out? but stop others from climbing in for fun? Jun 27 14 07:01 pm Link Paolo Diavolo wrote: a. true Jun 27 14 07:04 pm Link So the netting will be sturdy but flexible enough that one could not get up and walk to the edge? Like how a hammock operates? Jun 27 14 07:11 pm Link also another thought, that net (based on the image) is AT LEAST 45 feet below the deck. motherfuckers are going to wish they were dead after they hit a stainless steel net from that height. theyre going to look like a human waffle. i guess "already dead" or "broken bones" is the answer to what will stop them from crawling over the edge after a jump. why not just make the railing higher? idiots. put the damn net vertical along the side, not horizontal 50 feet below. Jun 27 14 07:12 pm Link ok last thought, whats wrong with letting people kill themselves? if you have ever been stuck in traffic on that bridge, you would wish there were less people commuting there too. why not just make a designated parking spot for jumpers? so they wont just stop and get out and block traffic, or take up spots at the tourist turn out? or better yet maybe just make a lane that drives right off the bridge? ahh, im a cold hearted bastard. i kid, i kid! Jun 27 14 07:21 pm Link |