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IS nude photography rapidly taking over the world?
Just wondering if we are going bare too fast here?  I have a photographer that does normal hots, offers some wine to the model (provided the model isn't against it) and then gently nudges the model towards well stripping naked and making shots. I am just wondering if this lust for nakedness sits within everyone of us or there are such photographers that don't do naked shots at all? What do you think about todays situation in model/photography? Is everything okei or should we feel worried? And why do you think models what to make nudes of themselves? P.S. First topic here, wanted to chat to you folks, but maybe the topic itself isn't as descriptive as one would want Have a nice day.Sep 23 14 10:08 pm Link Oh and just to add. Guys seem to do it for free while girls tend to charge a fee for getting naked... Whys that? Sep 23 14 10:09 pm Link I have not noticed a dramatic rise in people wanting to make nude images of people in the last 500 years or so. It's possible that there are more cameras today that create images instantly and very cheaply. This may be an explanation to what you're experiencing. Sep 23 14 10:12 pm Link just remember that your world is not The World Sep 23 14 10:18 pm Link The UK may be different, but I've noticed that the desire to get naked for pictures (and the attendant desire to get people naked for pictures) comes and goes. Back in the late 60s and early 70s, it was all about art. In the 80s, it was porn. Now, it's all of the above. Celebrities do it for their own pleasure. So do housewives and GWCs and high-fashion models and tons of others. Gentle persuasion is one thing. Getting somebody drunk and "loose" is another. And wrong. Admittedly, it's one helluva lot easier to do nudity when it's digital (cell phone or otherwise) than it was back when you had to take the film someplace to have it processed. Sep 23 14 10:20 pm Link meget wrote: No. Sep 23 14 10:28 pm Link meget wrote: I can't imagine drinking at a shoot, or offering alcohol/drugs to a model, and to "gently nudge" them into "stripping" and shooting them after having given them something to make it easier to convince them... yikes!! Sep 23 14 10:34 pm Link meget wrote: I can't get beyond "normal hots". But I'm having a nice day. Sep 23 14 10:46 pm Link Sorry it should have said "shots" )Sep 23 14 10:49 pm Link While I can't say for sure whether photographing nudes is 'taking over the world', I'm absolutely certain that naked women have done far less damage to the planet than fully dressed men. Sep 23 14 10:52 pm Link Taking over the world I don't know... But yes there is a trend of more nudity in Fashion these days. And I'd say it's about time that the human body be in fashion instead of looked at as dirty. I have always had a problem with Violence and depictions of murder etc... being ok to watch on TV but nudity and is some how bad or immoral what a fucked up twisted perception of life. As far as talking models into nudes... I don't think that's necessary I have no problems finding models that want to model nude. Even occasionally ones that said they don't pose nude decided they want to try it. More women and men would do it if others would not judge them harshly. As it become more mainstream and fashion more models will want to do nudes. Sep 23 14 11:12 pm Link meget wrote: Not always, maybe your particular group is that way though. Sep 24 14 03:05 am Link Sorry it's a weird question for a nude model. Seems like in your world you are fine being nude. Also I think male models are more up tight and fewer of them are willing to shoot nudes compared to the women on this site. Sep 24 14 04:01 am Link "Nudging" a model toward shooting nude is creepy. To put it charitably. I shoot bondage, and I do prefer to get in at least some topless photos when doing a shoot. I'm up-front about these sorts of details because I can't imagine not being up-front about them when it comes to setting up a bondage shoot. In two or three cases, the model was up-front in return about not doing nudity when we were scheduling the shoot, and so we did a bondage shoot with no nudity. And on a personal level I feel that nudity - especially full nudity - is overrated. A nude female form is certainly pleasant to my guy-eyes, but it isn't a make-or-break issue. The right clothing or costuming can have its own advantages when it comes to attractiveness or even sexiness. Sep 24 14 05:20 am Link I think mainstream magazines in the late 70s and 80s showed more nudity than they do today. At least in my area, it was easier find nude models 5 years ago than now. Once popular on college campuses things like streaking and skinny dipping are now considered sexual harassment. In the 80s, gang type shower stalls were the standard, now many want private shower stalls. So, if anything, I'm not seeing an increase, but seeing a decreased in body acceptance, including imagery. Obviously there is still a demand for for nude photography, but I don't see a huge growth. By far most images of people I come across are clothed. Most professional photographers I know make their money from clothed, not nude shoots. Sep 24 14 06:04 am Link Nico Simon Princely wrote: That's one area where the europeans are ahead of the english-speaking world. They are pretty relaxed about nudity and far more likey to get offended by screen violence. Sep 24 14 06:21 am Link I feel that the western world is more conservative, and anti-nudity, today than it was even a decade ago. Sep 24 14 06:35 am Link Very, very true, LOVE IT! DarkSlide wrote: Sep 24 14 06:35 am Link Countless billions of people have in the past and currently inhabit the earth. By and large, everyone one of them got here because of a man's initial desire to see a woman naked. If we ever become so socially evolved that that is no longer the case, we are on the verge of extinction. Are we still where this surprises us? Sep 24 14 06:39 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica meget wrote: I just finished an article in Penthouse Forum about this. Can't believe I didn't get a royalty payment... Sep 24 14 07:12 am Link There is no need for internet models to do clothed imagery. Paying clients are used for the stuff anyone can do........that's called portraits. Sep 24 14 09:42 am Link Koryn wrote: Or so the propagandists in our media would like for you to believe. I think most Americans don't really give a shit ! And I can think of a bunch of groups, and individuals that are taking over the world very rapidly, nude photography is VERY low on that list. Sep 24 14 09:57 am Link meget wrote: Sep 24 14 02:22 pm Link meget wrote: Time for you to go to the book store: Sep 24 14 02:25 pm Link Nico Simon Princely wrote: Rob Photosby wrote: I once read a quip about different areas of the United States WRT nudity, violence, and bad language in movies & TV. Quoting loosely from memory: "In the West, they're more tolerant of depicting violence and bad language, but object to nudity. In the North, they're more tolerant of depicting nudity and bad language, but object to violence. And in the South, they're more tolerant of depicting violence and nudity, but object to bad language." Sep 24 14 02:49 pm Link meget wrote: I have been finding just the opposite! I have done female figure images for a long time. Tried to follow through on suggestions that I should try to do some M/F couples and solo male figure images to make my overall portfolio more diverse. Sep 25 14 08:41 am Link Nico Simon Princely wrote: Well said! Sep 25 14 08:50 am Link I've had a photographer try to "gently nudge" me towards the same concept, alcohol not included. It was a few minutes of awkwardly posing and smiling saying no, to a few minutes of me not posing and giving a stern no. It wasn't something I agreed to beforehand and it's not something I want to do. Some are easier to "persuade" but there shouldn't have to be any persuading done at all if you've properly discussed your shoot beforehand. I do know quite a few photographers who are completely adverse to shooting nude and if you do so, they likely won't work with you at all and others who just frown upon it. So, it isn't all photographers that want the nudes. Unfortunately, a lot of the people who pay models for nudes are the same people who are making Playboy/Penthouse shots or are just typically GWC's. It sort of puts a sexual vibe on the whole market. Personally, I think the world has enough Playboy/Penthouse nudes. I want to see some real art. An abundance of it actually! But most likely, those artists won't have the means to pay a model for their art. I think a lot of women rationalize getting nude in front of the lens by making money they do; there are some art nude models who don't though. There are also models who just love being naked, they feel their most expressive that way and there's nothing wrong with that. As for man vs woman: Supply and demand, my best guess. There's more of a demand in the market for nude females, or at least it seems that way. I'm actually curious how often male models are asked to do mature work. Are we baring it all too fast? No, but, maybe with the wrong motives.  Sep 25 14 09:26 am Link Yup it's true, all of my recent food and beverage work has been naked. It used to be in the old days people wanted you to dress up the food all nice and fancy, but not now. It's all about showing the goods and leaving nothing to the imagination... Or perhaps your world is a little too narrow Sep 25 14 09:38 am Link Hi, if you are being pushed however gently, then the photographer is using the wrong model for the wrong shoot! I shoot any style & am just as interested in "clothed" shoots as any other style, yes I shoot nudes as well. This has to be agreed before hand. Spread your wings & find photographers who suit your style, or if you are happy nude then just consider how much value you place on it. Jerry Sep 25 14 09:38 am Link meget wrote: I think more implied than nude. But nude is definitely becoming more acceptable in society. Sep 25 14 09:55 am Link I wouldn't say so. A lot of the more popular and arguably most successful work I've done (and this is not measuring based on comments and views on sites like this one) have been shots in which the model was fully clothed. Hell, some of my most successful shots (as in actually selling prints in shows) don't even have any people in them. I've had people and friends come up and tell me that the shots they like the most from me are often the ones that show the least/are the least explicit. I've also found, in the course of trying to get a few images published in small magazines, that a lot of them won't take nudes. Also, while I like shooting nudes as much as the next person, I'm also quite happy shooting a fun/interesting clothed concept. When I shoot nudes I almost never shoot only nudes. They're almost always paired with a clothed concept. I'd never pressure a model into doing nudes. Even if you ignore the obvious moral and ethical issues, it just doesn't lead to a good place. At the same time, with some models it's hard to get them to keep clothes on. I've worked with some women that just felt more natural posing nude. I've worked with some women that were just extremely fit and extremely happy with and proud of their bodies so they loved doing nudes. I don't have a problem with that and I still get some really nice images with them, but a lot of those shots are nude. My girlfriend is actually a perfect example of a model that just loves posing in next to nothing, but we've also shot some really wonderful pin-up images with more planned, some of which are getting published. Sep 26 14 08:59 am Link Artists dating back to ancient times have done nudes. Some of the earliest photographs are nudes. So it's not exactly a new phenomenon. I do think nudity is much more accepted now than it was, say, even 20 years ago, and the internet has made it so nudity is only ever a click away. Previously, amateur and even semi-pro nude photography was kept in portfolios that few people ever saw. That said, I think there are more would-be Terry Richardson-types who see nude photography as an E ticket to unlimited sex partners. We never offer models--nude or otherwise--wine or alcohol simply because of the potential for it to be misconstrued. We also don't want anyone saying they shot something because they were impaired (not that we ever shoot anything terribly risque). We do offer bottled water and soft drinks. It just comes down to what the individual photographer and/or model views as professional behavior. Some photographers offer wine and have no problems, but that's not us. Sep 26 14 02:48 pm Link meget wrote: Because there is virtually zero market for a photographer to sell male nude photos, so why would he pay for the privilege of shooting them? Sep 26 14 03:08 pm Link Rockabella wrote: I'm looking forward to shooting a Playboy model soon. Sep 26 14 03:23 pm Link J e s u s . . . ... In the first moment I really read IS nude photography rapidly taking over the world? And asked myself completely shocked: THEY are doing nude photography?????? Sep 26 14 03:24 pm Link University of Oregon just cancelled its Saturday open nude studio for artists. They claimed a security problem which no one could substantiate. So in this town -- less nudes for artists. Sep 26 14 06:53 pm Link meget wrote: Recent surveys have indicated the #1 fear of people today is a zombie apocalypse...#2 is fear of a nude photography apocalypse! Sep 26 14 07:05 pm Link meget wrote: Sadly, no, it's not. Sep 26 14 07:27 pm Link TomFRohwer wrote: Me too. Sep 26 14 07:27 pm Link |
