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Dec 19 14 03:10 pm Link PR Zone wrote: While I''m not a model, I can say that if I were and did not want to do nudes often or with "everybody" I''d check off no, then respond positively to professional requests about it. Dec 21 14 07:29 am Link Daniel Norton wrote: Wow! Really? Dec 21 14 09:36 am Link Daniel Norton wrote: This. Dec 21 14 09:57 am Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: When I see "Nudes: No" I read it as "No nudes as a rule. If I''m willing to make an exception in your case, I''ll let you know. If you have to ask, then the answer is ''No.'' " Dec 21 14 09:58 am Link It''s fascinating to someone like me who tends to think a bit rigidly. Yes, him great photographer and it Pirelli, so big high profile shoot. On the other hand it''s a picture of a girl with her legs invitingly spread and her tits out. Now, blow me if I can see a moral difference between that and me photographing some bird for my wank bank in my dingy basement. Yes, I''m grubbier on the outside, but am I grubbier on the inside? Dec 21 14 10:11 am Link I see it all the time. If I see nudes in the portfolio, I will ask anyway. My favorite model in my portfolio said "no" the first time I asked, but, as you can see... https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/1005854 18+ Like one poster on this thread said, some say NO, and it means NO, others say no, and it means MAYBE. -Don Dec 21 14 10:35 am Link 80% of the girls on here who click off "no" to nudes, really mean- "no...I will not shoot nude with everyone, but If I like his/her work and I feel comfortable with him/her, I would be open to try it" Cheers. Dec 21 14 11:48 am Link So far it appears that only photographers have responded. I am curious how the models will respond. Dec 21 14 12:11 pm Link Dec 21 14 12:15 pm Link BODYSHOP FEETURES wrote: me, personally, it means no, always. Dec 21 14 01:29 pm Link Maybe the more important part of the question is whether you would do it with Steven Meisel shooting the photos? These calendar photos are not his most inspiring work, obviously, but any model who goes into Meisel''s catalog of work would gain considerably by it. Dec 21 14 01:48 pm Link Carl Herbert wrote: But I thought one of the reasons models ticked no was because they didn''t want those images of themselves on the net for eternity. Dec 21 14 02:03 pm Link TMG wrote: Have you ever seen a Pirelli calendar? Dec 21 14 03:25 pm Link BODYSHOP FEETURES wrote: For me it means no, unless I ask you because of your work in this area, (or unless your work in this area is something and you ask me.) In order to diminish confusion I created a separate profile https://www.modelmayhem.com/3453851 Dec 21 14 05:04 pm Link TMG wrote: You are making a leap to compare nudes as being all the same merely due to the lack of being clothed or covered. Dec 21 14 05:08 pm Link Is it just me or are people totally ignoring the OP''s question. It''s not about models saying NO on their profile and then shooting nudes. It was if you said NO would you change your mind for the Pirelli Calendar am I not correct? And where do you get the code the site is asking for? Dec 21 14 05:10 pm Link Jen B wrote: Jen you are 100% right. It was wonderful finding Jen on MM and then being able to shoot with her 3 times. Jen, shooting nudes with you is a great joy for me as a photographer. and yes there is a huge difference. Dec 21 14 06:50 pm Link This is so Dec 21 14 07:15 pm Link Maybe I just live under a rock but I wasn''t familiar with the name before I clicked on the link. And afterward, I''m still, "eh". I shoot implied nudes and nudes with photographers work that I like and feel like I can trust. I tried the whole separate profile thing, but all I got was unprofessional requests, then people realizing I was the same person as this profile, then trying trying to have the same conversations with both profiles at the same time....etc. Maybe I''ll attempt the second profile again sometime but I don''t see myself reviving it anytime soon. The only reason I have a problem with saying "Yes" to nudes openly is because knowing myself, I wouldn''t do nudes with just anyone, even if they were paying. There''s still that level of comfort I would need. I only started shooting nude this year but only with photographers I''ve shot with before OR they had several references and I trusted their word on it. Scratch that, there''s another reason--I use my real name with modeling (which I regret not thinking of before, those few years ago now when I started) and I don''t want them attached to that, though it might be too late, who knows. Dec 21 14 08:43 pm Link No nudes for me means always NO. It doesn't make a difference if it's for Playboy or Steven Meisel etc. I make no exception. Dec 22 14 12:20 am Link Rob Photosby wrote: yes Dec 22 14 07:37 am Link Jen B wrote: I''m not making that particular leap at all. I''m talking about the psychological content of the image, which is unaffected by factors such as budget, status of the model or photographer, circulation etc. Dec 22 14 07:39 am Link I just read a Facebook post by a widely published tattoo model who chooses not to model nude which is her well-known policy. Nevertheless she was contacted thru her MM page by a photographer here seeking her for a nude shoot. She very politely declined reiterating her policy. The photographer replied with insulting language to the effect that she had a hang-up because of her stated policy. When she replied to correct the assumption he made. From that point he got truly insulting. What is it with some photographers who can''t respect boundaries? It''s not like there is a shortage of models who do nudes... Dec 22 14 02:11 pm Link Dan Howell wrote: This is true there are many models who do nudes. He probably can''t find a model who does nudes. Dec 22 14 03:02 pm Link Non-Nude models fall into 2 categories. 1-Will NOT pose nude regardless of who, what, how much it paid or advanced their career. 2- Will consider posing nude depending on who, what and how much it paid or advanced their career. If a model says no nudity, you have to respect that they mean #1. Dec 22 14 03:04 pm Link MDWM wrote: For the record, over the years, I have shot nudes with many, many models that publicly say that they don''t shoot nudes. It has happened after I have gotten to know them and we have established the re-pore and trust. Often they have asked me, for one reason or another. Dec 22 14 03:16 pm Link There are many reasons why a model might say no to nudes. To assess if they''ll pose nude for a particular photographer, it helps to know why they say no. 1. Moral objection. 2. Too shy. 3. Boy Friend doesn''t want me too. 4. I don''t want nudes on the internet. 5. Just not ready for that yet. 6. I don''t like how my body looks nude. 7. Implied is ok, but I''m worried that the photographer will push for more. 8. etc. Dec 22 14 03:25 pm Link Despite her credentials as one of the longest-serving Victoria''s Secret Angels, Allessandra Ambrosio admits to not feeling entirely comfortable with baring all. She was shot in a swimsuit for the 2003 calendar. (source: http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/08/15/ … -interview) Dec 22 14 03:43 pm Link I''ll make it simple from one former model''s perspective: 1). Ticking "no" prevents the all-too-predictable avalanch of WWC''s (Wankers With Cameras) from crowding out the legitimate possibilities. Anyone who experiences inbox email fatigue from unnecessary emails can appreciate the time it takes to sift the wheat from the chaff. 2) Because MM doesn''t give an It Depends option. Regardless of what is clicked, the choice to do nudes or not is just that ... A choice. If the model says no, don''t pursue the issue; just move on. Dec 22 14 03:58 pm Link This typing an apostrophe and getting a " is getting on my nerves. Who''s the programmer around this joint? Dec 22 14 04:00 pm Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Thank you right back! I look forward to 4 and 5 too. Dec 22 14 04:56 pm Link TMG wrote: Hi, Dec 22 14 04:59 pm Link Two things that look very similar may be entirely dissimilar by virtue of the psychological content of the image (the concept behind the piece, the motivation of the contributors, their state of mind when shooting the thing), and two things which look very different - ie the crappy basement wanker shot and the high end glossy big bucks shot - may be very similar when looked at from that point of view. Dec 23 14 03:47 am Link MDWM wrote: I agree. Dec 23 14 05:52 am Link neve wrote: if the offer included $10 million (or whatever the Euro equivalent would be) would it still be the same answer? Dec 23 14 12:08 pm Link I have always done nudes ever since I started modelling, but if I were a model that had never done nudes and suddenly had the opportunity to be featured in a nationally publicized project like that done by a reputable professional company, it would be a no-brainer and I'd say "yes" in a heartbeat! One of the first things I was told by others when I started nude modelling is that there will always be those who look at such photos and art for "personal pleasure" and those would be the wankers you are talking about. It goes with the territory of modelling less than fully clothed, and every model who poses in lingerie, underwear, swimsuits or nude is aware of that. What I have found surprising though is the number of women who look at those photos for the same reasons some of the guys do, and are quite open about making comments and sending private messages about it as well, and making "unprofessional offers" to work together. I never would have expected that. Dec 23 14 12:15 pm Link Brian Scanlon wrote: The answer would be "NO" again. It''s not about the money, it''s about my personal values. Dec 23 14 12:25 pm Link How about just shooting those who want to work in this genre instead of trying to bribe/coerce those who dont ? Dec 23 14 12:40 pm Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: Maybe the challenge of the chase is part of their fun in setting up such a photo shoot? The challenge of getting a model who would not otherwise be interested in doing nudes to agree to get naked for that project (or any other project) could appeal to the photographer on several levels. Dec 23 14 12:48 pm Link |