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Lovely Day Media

Posts: 5885

Vineland, New Jersey, US

Have you ever signed up for a dating website? Have you found that 99% of the people you message don't respond? Of the 1% that do respond, 99% don't make it out of cyberspace and of the 1% that do, 99% end before the 2nd date starts?

Of the people who message you, 99% don't have anything to say, don't speak whatever your first language is (they prfr txt spk) and you know when/if you get a 2nd message from them that it's not going anywhere?

Feb 25 15 12:27 pm Link

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MN Photography

Posts: 1432

Chicago, Illinois, US

I'm using OKCupid.  About 20-30% of the women I write respond to my messages.  I only write someone if I think there is something interesting about them and I always make the message specific to them.  Like a joke about something in their profile.  What I don't do is send cut and paste messages to dozens of women.

Some of the women that I've met in person have shown me the messages they get.  It's 99% "Hi, wanna chat?" and they nearly never answer.

Feb 25 15 12:35 pm Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

I guess most of the members were fabricated by the host company.   That is why.  Your email goes not where.

Feb 25 15 12:38 pm Link

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MN Photography

Posts: 1432

Chicago, Illinois, US

Connor Photography wrote:
I guess most of the members were fabricated by the host company.   That is why.  Your email goes not where.

A lot of people say that about Match, but it isn't true.  Match is not going to take the time to fabricate tens of thousands of fake profiles.  What Match does do is to offer free memberships that last very short periods of time, like a weekend.  People create a profile and then let the membership expire.  You can't really tell if you are writing a non-paying profile that can't answer. 

Free sites like POF and OKC are a better choice.

Feb 25 15 12:46 pm Link

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kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

As a very-happily-married old-ass dude, I am fascinated and mystified by the online dating thing. It's entirely out of my purview. If my wife suddenly dumped me or dropped dead tomorrow, I'd have no idea ---and frankly not much of an interest--- about finding someone else.

Closest I ever got to it was as technical consultant on a very-well-funded start-up looking to compete with the big guys (match.com, etc) as social media/dating site hybrid and which ran aground in a spectacular fashion during its alpha phase. tongue

Feb 25 15 12:47 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

MN Photography wrote:

Match is not going to take the time to fabricate tens of thousands of fake profiles.  .

I imagine it wouldn't take much to have a computer auto generate these 24/7 ?

Feb 25 15 12:52 pm Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

MN Photography wrote:

A lot of people say that about Match, but it isn't true.  Match is not going to take the time to fabricate tens of thousands of fake profiles.  What Match does do is to offer free memberships that last very short periods of time, like a weekend.  People create a profile and then let the membership expire.  You can't really tell if you are writing a non-paying profile that can't answer. 

Free sites like POF and OKC are a better choice.

I have no proof. But I live in a small town, I know everyone.  I have never known there were so many hot women live in my town.  I thought that must be a computer generated data.  They try to suck you into just one month membership. With so many suckers in the world, there is lot of money to be make.  they could hire a lot of old retirees to randomly reply to you and lure you into buying a longer membership. 

Hey there are many ways to take money away from you.   Like you, some other female members are real.  But you never know.

Feb 25 15 01:09 pm Link

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Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

If it weren't for online dating, I would be
an incredibly sad and lonely person, to be completely honest.

I've met some nice people that way, and all my relationships/dating situations since 2009 have been with people I met online.

Feb 25 15 01:19 pm Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

Posts: 16685

Key West, Florida, US

Funny story...

A friend of mine and his wife had a very messy divorce.

After being divorced for about a year, he signs up for the dating website that make you answer all the questions.  The very first match the site gave him was his ex-wife.  He thought it was funny, so he sent her a message, saying he had signed up for the site and she was his first match. 

Well, she didn't think it was too funny.  She accused him of stalking her and claimed he must have answered the questions intentionally in order to get matched with her.  She complained to the website and they deleted his account, sending him a warning email to cease and desist from misuse of their site.

Feb 25 15 01:27 pm Link

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Jay Edwards

Posts: 18616

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

MN Photography wrote:
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What Match does do is to offer free memberships...  People create a profile and then let the membership expire.  You can't really tell if you are writing a non-paying profile that can't answer.

That seems very similar to MM...which can also be a dating website.

heehee

Feb 25 15 01:29 pm Link

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MN Photography

Posts: 1432

Chicago, Illinois, US

Connor Photography wrote:
they could hire a lot of old retirees to randomly reply to you and lure you into buying a longer membership. 

Hey there are many ways to take money away from you.   Like you, some other female members are real.  But you never know.

Seriously?  Hiring retirees to answers messages?  Now I guess there are conspiracy theories about dating sites. 

There are fake profiles.  They are nearly always scammers and they are very easy to spot.  They are also a small minority.  They don't need to do computer generated profiles when there are thousands of people putting up free trial profiles.  Also, not surprisingly, a lot of women are very wary of meeting people online and don't use their actual town.  It's not unusual for a woman to pick out a town ten miles away.

Feb 25 15 01:33 pm Link

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FlirtynFun Photography

Posts: 13926

Houston, Texas, US

my and I met on Matchmaker and have been together since 2003. Not sure what it's like today, however I was honest in a profile, would search people who I found attractive and had similar interests and had a fun time dating. I met quite a few people I became long term friends with too. I guess what I found nice about it was that I'd meet someone with similar interests that I had an attraction to versus just someone I had chemistry with that six months after we met I would be asking myself, WTF?

Feb 25 15 01:46 pm Link

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Schlake

Posts: 2935

Socorro, New Mexico, US

I've tried to sign up for eHarmony three times.  Each time, after going through the questions, it told me it was sorry, but I was not compatable and could not use the server.  I signed up on okcupid after reading about all the awesome research they do on people, and I enjoyed filling out the surveys.  One girl contacted me and wanted to meet, which I did.  But a couple of years ago okcupid stopped letting me log in via my mac, and I don't know why, so I barely use it anymore since I use a mac.

Very few people on okcupid ever responded, probably down in the 10% range.  The only one I ever met was someone who contacted me first.

Feb 25 15 01:56 pm Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

MN Photography wrote:
Seriously?  Hiring retirees to answers messages?  Now I guess there are conspiracy theories about dating sites.

Dating sites are an unregulated industry.  You would never know how they operate, some may be legit and some may not.  When there is money to be made, many inventive way will surface.  I know of a few senior citizens work at the home for phone sex company in the past.  They can moan and groan just as good as the teenagers.

Feb 25 15 01:57 pm Link

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SayCheeZ!

Posts: 20621

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Connor Photography wrote:
I guess most of the members were fabricated by the host company.   That is why.  Your email goes not where.

MN Photography wrote:
A lot of people say that about Match, but it isn't true.

Oh, it's true. 
I caught 'em first hand many moons ago.
In one case they used the same photo for 3 different profiles.
It's difficult for them to pull that shit now that Google Image Search was invented.


MN Photography wrote:
Free sites like POF and OKC are a better choice

OK Cupid is owned by Match.com

Feb 25 15 02:11 pm Link

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Dave McDermott

Posts: 720

Coill Dubh, Kildare, Ireland

POF SCIENCE

The 3 groups of people that use Plenty Of Fish:

#1. "The creepy guy trying to get laid."

Making up 50% of the POF population, the creepy male is a curious breed in that mere pornography alone is not enough to quench their thirst for sexual pleasure. Furthermore, these creatures are disullisoned with the thought that there are in fact girls who not only share their sexual appetite, but would be charmed and flattered when demanded to show their breasts while they salivate to see them touch their private parts.

#2. "The hot girl too good for this site."

The second large group makes up 40% of the POF population. Perhaps even more curious than the creepy male who fondles himself with no obtainable goal, the hot girl is steadfast in her resolve to show how beneath the site and all whom frequent it are to her. When they are not ignoring IM's and emails, they are uploading their latest alluring selfies which not only show off their considerable physical features, but also the make and model of their smart phone.

#3. "The honest crowd."

The honest crowd is a mixture of both males and females and make up the remaining 10% of POF. It is said that these people are on the verge of extinction. Unlike the other 2 groups, they use the site for its intended purpose.

Feb 25 15 02:19 pm Link

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SayCheeZ!

Posts: 20621

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

The BEST dating websites are REAL activity clubs like meetup.com...

.... however the dating meetup.com groups are just as bad, if not worse than the dating websites.

I'm a member of various activity, photography and hiking meetup groups and have done ok with meeting new people  It's probably because there's no expectations and people 'let their guard down' in non dating meetup situations.

Feb 25 15 02:21 pm Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Dave McDermott wrote:
POF SCIENCE

The 3 groups of people that use Plenty Of Fish:

#1. "The creepy guy trying to get laid."

I totally agree that internet dating is a wonderful things.  But it is only for the desirable singles out there, not for the creepy guy trying to get laid.

big_smile

Feb 25 15 03:00 pm Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

Posts: 16685

Key West, Florida, US

Connor Photography wrote:
I totally agree that internet dating is a wonderful things.  But it is only for the desirable singles out there, not for the creepy guy trying to get laid.

big_smile

The internet was made for creepy guys trying to get laid.  Just look at the creepy guy who invented the internet, Al Gore!  LOL

Feb 25 15 04:01 pm Link

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JadeDRed

Posts: 5620

London, England, United Kingdom

I've never messaged 1,000,000 people so couldn't say.

Feel free to check the maths on that one, it's late.

Feb 25 15 04:13 pm Link

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Julia Steel

Posts: 2474

Sylvania, Ohio, US

Lovely Day Media wrote:
Have you ever signed up for a dating website? Have you found that 99% of the people you message don't respond? Of the 1% that do respond, 99% don't make it out of cyberspace and of the 1% that do, 99% end before the 2nd date starts?

Of the people who message you, 99% don't have anything to say, don't speak whatever your first language is (they prfr txt spk) and you know when/if you get a 2nd message from them that it's not going anywhere?

i was on POF for 2 weeks and it was weeeeird, i met about 5 people, 4 of them were completely socially awkward and short, one was pretty cool i am still friends with him. i never messaged anyone though, they messaged me. i tried to respond to everyone unless they were extremely tragic right off the bat.

Feb 25 15 05:32 pm Link

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Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

Jay  Edwards wrote:

That seems very similar to MM...which can also be a dating website.

heehee

hee hee tongue
ZING! big_smile

Feb 25 15 06:23 pm Link

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Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

Internet dating sites=excersise in how far one is willing to lower their standards.
mixed in with catfishing,bait and switch profiles,and undesireable creepos of all sexes.
its a waste of time and $

The most successful ones are the various ladder theory millionare.com dating sites because bot parties join knowing what they want,the rich guys looking for hot arm candy and gold diggers looking for sugardaddies with benefits

Feb 25 15 06:30 pm Link

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John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

The whole idea fascinates me.

Not in a million years would I do it ever again though, tried RSVP once and that was enough..... Profiles all sound nice but the person you meet in real life isn't at all like their profile. It's disheartening to say the least.

I do wonder how many people on the sites like RSVP, and other big ones like Eharmony are truly genuine when you realize all the TV ads are paid actors and not real clients. 

What they could not find one satisfied actual client for the ad?

Feb 25 15 08:18 pm Link

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Dave McDermott

Posts: 720

Coill Dubh, Kildare, Ireland

I see it as another avenue to meet people. It's no more treacherous than the noisy drink fueled meat markets that are your typical nightclub. Patience is key however. I was doing it many months before I eventually got a date.

Feb 26 15 09:22 am Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

Posts: 16685

Key West, Florida, US

It's interesting that while so many people think so badly of dating websites, there are many people who have met their significant other on dating websites.

Feb 26 15 09:28 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

MN Photography wrote:
I'm using OKCupid.

I have read long time ago, I think it was on Wikipedia, that they have "privacy issues"... farming their online members for data.

Two nights ago, I listened to a radio show and there was a internet security expert and cyber-crime investigator (police) who talked about OKCupid as well.

He said that OKCupid is using and collection your data, not anonymous, but attached to your name, etc., to databanks for profit.

He said that the profile info will include your drug use, sexual behavior and preferences and many, many more data.

What he basically inferred was that you might apply for a job, had the interview, everything looked good, but last minute, you didn't get the job, because they purchased your data and found out that you are an occasional drug user and the occasional heavy "social" drinker. Info you would never reveal to a potential employer.

OKCupid seems to be one of the worst offenders in that regards.

Feb 26 15 09:31 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

ernst tischler wrote:
It's interesting that while so many people think so badly of dating websites, there are many people who have met their significant other on dating websites.

I don't have a problem with dating websites, and find it a good tool for people to find someone...

I've tried it, I am not a good catch with my current looks, and my cool traits don't come out strong enough... or... make me interesting to women in an age range that is 30 years above my age range of possible partners... or to women to whom I look anorexic in comparison...

So... I don't do the online thing... works for me even less than my usual mate-finding strategy of not going out and socializing at all, except for doing a job!         hmm

Feb 26 15 09:36 am Link

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Jana

Posts: 110

San Diego, California, US

two of my friends met on okcupid, he lived on the east coast, she lives on the west, and now they live 10 minutes away from each other big_smile

i used to use tinder....never use tinder! the thirst is so real--i have to remind guys that water is free

Feb 26 15 09:53 am Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

udor wrote:
OKCupid seems to be one of the worst offenders in that regards.

That is pretty scary.  That is why I wonder why would anyone use their real name to get on the internet.  I would rather create a different user name in every social media, and no link between them.

Feb 26 15 09:53 am Link

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MN Photography

Posts: 1432

Chicago, Illinois, US

udor wrote:

I have read long time ago, I think it was on Wikipedia, that they have "privacy issues"... farming their online members for data.

Two nights ago, I listened to a radio show and there was a internet security expert and cyber-crime investigator (police) who talked about OKCupid as well.

He said that OKCupid is using and collection your data, not anonymous, but attached to your name, etc., to databanks for profit.

He said that the profile info will include your drug use, sexual behavior and preferences and many, many more data.

What he basically inferred was that you might apply for a job, had the interview, everything looked good, but last minute, you didn't get the job, because they purchased your data and found out that you are an occasional drug user and the occasional heavy "social" drinker. Info you would never reveal to a potential employer.

OKCupid seems to be one of the worst offenders in that regards.

OKCupid does not have my name, address, social security number, phone number or even my regular email address.  I'm not sure who you think is going to benefit from the virtually no information that I, or really anyone else has given OKCupid.

Feb 26 15 09:55 am Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

udor wrote:
I have read long time ago, I think it was on Wikipedia, that they have "privacy issues"... farming their online members for data.

Two nights ago, I listened to a radio show and there was a internet security expert and cyber-crime investigator (police) who talked about OKCupid as well.

He said that OKCupid is using and collection your data, not anonymous, but attached to your name, etc., to databanks for profit.

He said that the profile info will include your drug use, sexual behavior and preferences and many, many more data.

What he basically inferred was that you might apply for a job, had the interview, everything looked good, but last minute, you didn't get the job, because they purchased your data and found out that you are an occasional drug user and the occasional heavy "social" drinker. Info you would never reveal to a potential employer.

OKCupid seems to be one of the worst offenders in that regards.

If your potential to work is reliant on your drug and alcohol use maybe you just dont answer the 100% optional questions OKC gives you related to your drug and alcohol use…

It sounds crazy I know but hear me out…you dont actually have to fill out the entirety of your dating profile or take any of those silly quizzes like "what type of stoner are you?" that they use to match you up with people.


OKC doesnt even have my real name. My potential employer would have to already have the photos I used for my profile to google image search me to find my OKC profile

Im not trying to work for the FBI or anything so that sounds like an assload of work most businesses will not go through just to rule you out of their applicant pool. And if I were trying to work for NASA or some shit, I wouldnt be putting on a free and 100% public website how I like to drink and do drugs and have anonymous hook ups so…I dunno, insert something about common sense here.




As for whether or not dating sites work…
They work really well for women, particularly those seeking other women.

Feb 26 15 11:42 am Link

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Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

I have met some wonderful people on dating websites. I have met quite a few that were not so great as well. I have been dating one man I met on one for a year and a half but it's casual and we don't meet often. One of the first things he said to me was that I didn't know how to "market" myself well enough. Maybe so but he did respond to my message I sent him although he admits he responded after a night of drinking;)

If you aren't getting responses than maybe it's YOU and not them.

Feb 26 15 01:27 pm Link

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Model Sarah

Posts: 40987

Columbus, Ohio, US

Been with my significant other for nearly 4 years off of OKCupid.

Feb 27 15 07:39 am Link

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Gianantonio

Posts: 8159

Turin, Piemonte, Italy

Lovely Day Media wrote:
Have you ever signed up for a dating website? Have you found that 99% of the people you message don't respond? Of the 1% that do respond, 99% don't make it out of cyberspace and of the 1% that do, 99% end before the 2nd date starts?

Of the people who message you, 99% don't have anything to say, don't speak whatever your first language is (they prfr txt spk) and you know when/if you get a 2nd message from them that it's not going anywhere?

This has not been my experience.  I was on OKCupid for about a year.  I'd estimate my response rate (women responding to my messages) at about 70 - 80% and I went on first-dates at least 3 times a month.  I answered about half of the women who contacted me--the ones I didn't answer tended to live out-state (more than an hour away).  I started answering the out-staters saying the distance was too great--but that seemed to encourage more messaging so I just stopped replying to out-staters. 

The women I did chat with tended to be nice and interesting.  I think I met with most--if not all--the women I started messaging with for a date (coffee or dinner).  But if there was no spark there was no second date.  Initially I would go on up to 3 dates with a woman before deciding--but the couple I felt a spark with I felt it within the first few minutes.  So I adjusted my process and trusted my first reaction. 

I've been seeing the woman I'm with now for about a year and a half.  But we didn't meet online.

Feb 27 15 08:10 am Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Schlake wrote:
I've tried to sign up for eHarmony three times. [...]

Those a-holes did let me sign up but made it near impossible to cancel. Good thing my bank card info was hacked somewhere else and my bank sent me a new card with a new number. Otherwise I would probably still be paying for eHarmony.

Feb 27 15 08:28 am Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Is it me or all women want to do on those sites is walk and eat? And maybe ride a bicycle. No one seems to be interested in anything else besides hiking, biking, and dining.

Is it the same on men's profiles or is it just women?

Feb 27 15 08:38 am Link