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personality points....... question for all.....
Does personality matter? Will you work with a total turd in the punch bowl if you love their art? And why? Sorry I'm a bit bored at the moment so I am wondering what others think about this. I don't like to work with certain personality types so I don't. I figure I am kinda on my own in this way but maybe I am wrong, what say you? Dec 16 15 03:48 pm Link I've worked with a shit-load of photographers that other known and respected traveling models claimed were turds - yet I've had no problems with any of them. I've actually been hosted by someone who was on a well-known "blacklist" that was being passed around recently. Again, no problems whatsoever. If I have a "personality conflict" with someone, I make it my priority that they will never know it. I've found certain people very difficult to deal with, but again, I chose to respond to them in ways that did not cause challenges or conflicts. Dec 16 15 03:54 pm Link Amber NW wrote: The only problem I have with this is that someone described as a turd (anywhere, not just in the punch bowl) is that it's subject to someone's opinion and they might be the one that's messed up. I have worked with a few models I thought were absolutely useless. I am yet to work with another photographer or MUA. Just because I don't like them, though, doesn't mean they're terrible. It just means we didn't exactly like each other. Dec 16 15 04:04 pm Link If you treat this like a Business...There should be no problems. Yes...Sometimes there be pricks and dicks out there. You got to outsmart them. Dec 16 15 04:17 pm Link Art prevails. Money sometimes does too. Would you change your mind if you were starving? It's a lot easier to be choosy if you can afford to be. Dec 16 15 04:18 pm Link On almost any sort of personality test, I score insanely high on "agreeableness." It's basically the defining characteristic of my personality. I have no problem getting along with those whom others have called "insane," "bad attitude," or "creepy" primarily because I'm....well...agreeable. I also did crisis management for social work companies for 5 years, and could talk down pretty much anyone. I also worked in juvenile detention in college. It taught me a lot about dealing with difficult, or just plain weird, people. I also do not cling on to my personal "identity" during social interactions, and have always tended to shift into different behavior patterns, as needed, to accommodate those around me. Perhaps that is a bad habit, but it does make relationship-building incredibly easy. Dec 16 15 04:23 pm Link Koryn wrote: I love your posts Dec 16 15 04:25 pm Link Amber NW wrote: Just because I don't like someone doesn't mean they are not good to work with. Dec 16 15 04:31 pm Link I have to say that ALL of the models I have worked with were great. I worked with one I didn't particularly like, but the point of our meeting was good images, and we did that. I have not swum in the MM punchbowl that had any turds in it. (unless it might have been me!) Dec 16 15 04:32 pm Link Amber NW wrote: Yes. Amber NW wrote: Your characterization disgusts me and I have not run into such a person on MM. Amber NW wrote: I have been turned off by attitudes in profiles and forum posts but I don't stereotype personalities. Dec 16 15 04:34 pm Link Amber NW wrote: Yes. Dec 16 15 04:36 pm Link I'm good at reading people, even via messaging. I've managed to avoid the people who are complete asshats but I have worked with a few photographers who have tested me. I basically find a way to figure out why they are that way by talking to them and it seems to lift whatever mood they are in. There's several photographers I will not work with just based on their terrible reputation. I don't feel unsafe or anything I just don't see the point. Dec 16 15 04:37 pm Link Amber NW wrote: Depends on your objective. If you really need the shot, what difference doe s it make if he or she has a lousy personality, or is purple, white or black. It is not like you are going to marry him or her. It is a business. Remain your focused on your goal. Dec 16 15 04:39 pm Link I've never worked with a turd in a punch bowl. I have no intention of starting anytime soon  Dec 16 15 04:39 pm Link Mark Salo wrote: Am I on it yet?? Dec 16 15 04:45 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Yeah, if you have the options. I am older now, I don't put up shits anymore compared to the days when I was young. The bottom line is what is your goal? Dec 16 15 04:48 pm Link Amber NW wrote: Mark Salo wrote: Amber NW wrote: I don't know. I don't have access to it. And it's for models to compare notes on photographers. Dec 16 15 04:58 pm Link Really depends on how bad the personality mis-match is. If they're the biggest jackass I've ever come across, no I won't work with them. If I just find them awkward or mildly abrasive, sure whatever. Dec 16 15 08:12 pm Link be glad if someone of you can choose to work or not with said people. alot of us have to work with such people in corporate settings where you have no choice. it reminds me of movies like the towering inferno, or earthquake,or the poseidon adventure or even the walking dead. you will usually have 10 people......9 of them are just trying to survive and make it thru...but theres always that 1 person in the group that is a hothead or a agitator who puts everyone else on edge. its the goof of the universe how theres always that one person in the group.. Dec 16 15 09:16 pm Link I've worked with people I don't necessarily care for but modeling gigs are short stints and it doesn't matter to me. Most of the people I work with I truly enjoy; most are respectful and easy to get along with. If I have to be around a person I dislike for an extended period of time and they are an ass, it is difficult for me. I notice this mostly in music situations more than modeling gigs. My biggest gripe is how some people don't put the work in. I've found that the most talented people I've worked with are usually the most humble. Of course I've encountered many with egos the size of football fields but they had the talent to back it up. Without talent, the ones that keep trying to prove they are professional or talented are just at war with themselves & annoy everyone else with their growing pains. If you're talented, people notice. If you're professional, people notice. I think the greatest lesson I had to learn is creating a boundary between 'this is annoying' and 'fuck this shit, I'm out'. ... and just for the record, if you're going to act like a diva, better be able to back that shit up. Dec 16 15 10:29 pm Link Personality would be a challenge to judge from words on a screen but in the real world and after several shoots I have learned that one of My favorite subjects might be a bit of a diva. Will I work with Her pompous arse again? You betcha. Dec 17 15 04:53 am Link I heard Yngwie's ego gets the best of him. I heard Dio was the nicest guy in the world. Both sources by people who actually knew/knows them both. I'd work with both with the same intention (and if Dio was brought back from the dead). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaycOK66FAc As for Yngwie, I could care two shits how he chooses to behave if I get in his presence. Dec 17 15 07:42 am Link Amber NW wrote: I don't like to work with complainers. Dec 17 15 08:21 am Link Since I do a lot of workshops, personality is vitally important. If I hire a model and she's stunning, yet boring as hell to work with or difficult to work with, I'll see a LOT fewer signups the next time around. I'll site a good example of a good example. I've used Mosh for a few workshops. (she unfortunately doesn't do workshops anymore) She's a consummate professional, she's stellar at her craft, she's engaging with clients and an absolute joy to work with. I follow this tact: If one or two people call me an asshole, it may just be their opinion. If several people call me an asshole, it's probably something I need to look at. "Blacklists", to me, should follow this same mindset. Dec 17 15 09:00 am Link On one hand, I believe that "chemistry" plays a significant role in the production of images of people. That doesn't mean that the model & the photographer have to be the bestest buddies -- they just have to respect each other, trust each other a little bit, and have a good & comfortable time producing images. For most of "my" models, we don't have much of a relationship outside of photographic activities, and that's okay, but I do hope that every model leaves a session with me willing to do another session in the future. On the other hand, I believe that it's the job of models to pose for images, and that the best models are flexible enough to do well in less-than-comfortable conditions. The best models can attune themselves to the photographer's vision and can do what needs to be done to achieve that vision. Those are the models that are more likely to get paid. Bottom line: Typically, it's only a few hours commitment -- make the best of the situation. Dec 17 15 09:21 am Link Thank you all so much for the wonderfully entertaining and well thought out valuable insight to how you think and feel. I found all of your viewpoints very interesting, and look forward to hearing from more people about this. Being a housewife I get bored sometimes and y'all keep me entertained and you expand my way of thinking. It's nice to think that the random stuff I post on here won't be held against me by most!! Lol Have an amazing weekend folks Dec 17 15 10:41 am Link |
