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Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

This image was taken at an abandoned cowboy jail in the Badlands Of South Dakota




https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/150907/13/55edfa3b0526b.jpg

May 08 16 02:32 pm Link

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Top Gun Digital

Posts: 1528

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I like the shot and the mood it creates.  However, that modern looking car that is visible in the window doesn't fit the rest of the image.  If it were me, I would edit out the car.

May 08 16 02:49 pm Link

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Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Sure I see your point. But I probably would not edit such things out.

May 08 16 02:59 pm Link

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Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21526

Chicago, Illinois, US

Great looking image but the car is a distraction.

May 08 16 03:15 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Top Gun Digital wrote:
I like the shot and the mood it creates.  However, that modern looking car that is visible in the window doesn't fit the rest of the image.  If it were me, I would edit out the car.

agreed, and put in an alien space ship!
it will make for a cool "cowboys and aliens" editorial.



p.s. very cool location!

May 08 16 04:09 pm Link

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Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Top Gun Digital wrote:
I like the shot and the mood it creates.  However, that modern looking car that is visible in the window doesn't fit the rest of the image.  If it were me, I would edit out the car.

+1      remove the car or the window

May 08 16 04:30 pm Link

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Culturally Destitute

Posts: 551

Seattle, Washington, US

Top Gun Digital wrote:
I like the shot and the mood it creates.  However, that modern looking car that is visible in the window doesn't fit the rest of the image.  If it were me, I would edit out the car.

+1
The car detracts from the image.

May 08 16 04:40 pm Link

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Jay James Studio

Posts: 4

Omaha, Nebraska, US

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
Sure I see your point. But I probably would not edit such things out.

Hi, I recommend that you reconsider cropping out the vehicle. It's a huge distraction and takes away from how amazing this shot is.  Please reconsider.

May 08 16 04:58 pm Link

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Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5217

Catskill, New York, US

I agree, I like the image, maybe a little more contrast for me but the car has to go.

May 08 16 05:02 pm Link

Model

Jen B E

Posts: 213

Hesperia, California, US

Such an awesome cool shot.

Jen

May 10 16 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

Lee_Photography

Posts: 9863

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Removing the car and shoe prints [Back in the day they only had smooth leather bottoms] would go along way in this photograph

I wish you well

May 10 16 03:38 pm Link

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DespayreFX

Posts: 1481

Delta, British Columbia, Canada

+however many that is now...


Take out the car. smile

May 10 16 04:21 pm Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Y'know -- as an alternative to editing out the car, I'd take a look at an alternative cropping:  cut the top of the image off, so that the top of the model is the top of the image.  That'll put the model in the top left of the image, and coincidentally would crop the car out entirely.  The off-center composition might add a little more tension to the image & emphasize the floor cracks a bit more. 

But that's just me -- I crop everything.

May 10 16 04:43 pm Link

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MatureModelMM

Posts: 2843

Detroit, Michigan, US

I totally agree with everyone that it's an awesome photo, and the car needs to go.  If it weren't for that, I would expect to find this hanging in an art gallery.

May 10 16 04:49 pm Link

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sospix

Posts: 23775

Orlando, Florida, US

I think I've been in that jail  .  .  .  during Rally Week in Sturgis  .  .  .  course, my cellmate didn't look near THAT good  .  .  .  wink  Keep the danged car, it's kind of a kitschy nod to the modern world, contained in a period styled image  .  .  .  plus, it obviously catches everyone's eye  .  .  .  for some reason, it brought this image to my mind  .  .  .

https://www.paduiblog.com/uploads/image/Harrisburg%20DUI%20Lawyer%20horse%20dog.JPG

.  .  .  or maybe that was just how I got home after they let me outta the drunk tank  .  .  .  wink

SOS

May 10 16 05:01 pm Link

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e9 photography

Posts: 162

Cleveland, Ohio, US

Great setting, pose, model and colors -- but getting rid of the car (and the shoe prints) would take it over the top

May 10 16 05:03 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Well yeah of course the car.

But it's a really good photo of a lot of interesting texture and tone.
The model's lost in it all.
Either a change in crop, more contrasty/hotter lighting on her specifically, or posing that causes the eye to go to her. Right now my eye totally ignores her as it traverses the image.

May 10 16 06:48 pm Link

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E H

Posts: 847

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
Sure I see your point. But I probably would not edit such things out.

I would say the SUV is not fitting as well,, very curious on your reasoning on not editing it out?? could you expand on your thinking??

May 10 16 10:16 pm Link

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Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I like the tone of the image

but it doesn't knock me out of my chair ( so to speak )

May 10 16 10:25 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I like the image except for the car.

May 10 16 10:44 pm Link

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Frozen Moments

Posts: 1680

San Antonio, Texas, US

I love the image, I would keep the window, and lose the car.

May 11 16 03:35 am Link

Photographer

goofus

Posts: 808

Santa Barbara, California, US

it makes me wonder if you are up to date on your tetanus shots

May 11 16 01:05 pm Link

Model

Jen B E

Posts: 213

Hesperia, California, US

J O H N  A L L A N wrote:
Well yeah of course the car.

But it's a really good photo of a lot of interesting texture and tone.
The model's lost in it all.
Either a change in crop, more contrasty/hotter lighting on her specifically, or posing that causes the eye to go to her. Right now my eye totally ignores her as it traverses the image.

I agree, really good with interesting things going on. One of the reasons I like shooting with Risen Phoenix!

When I'm pressing the shutter I am a ruthless cropper to fix what I didn't catch in frame because I want control over the landscape of view. I'd adjust crop here but, that is my preference.

Jen

May 11 16 03:15 pm Link

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Modelphilia

Posts: 1007

Hilo, Hawaii, US

If you absolutely don't want to crop it at all, then perhaps you'd consider at least darkening the window quite a bit, and maybe blurring the car into semi-oblivion. Right now, the saturation of the sepia toning is rather heavy, and the format so tall, that the bright tones of the window become the focal point.

I think there are several ways to crop it that would make it a much stronger image, and I would still lighten up on the saturation.

Not so sure I like the pose with the full crop, but it gets more intriguing with a tighter one, as it might with a darker window-light.

EDIT: I looked at it again with the image more nearly filling the height of my screen and it worked better visually for me at least as far as the placement of the model within the current cropping .

May 12 16 01:25 am Link

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Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Lee_Photography wrote:
Removing the car and shoe prints [Back in the day they only had smooth leather bottoms] would go along way in this photograph

I wish you well

When I shoot on location I shoot what's there.  The shoe prints were there so I leave it.  Perhaps it would be better without the car, but that was also there. I am not creating a set, it's there, it's part of the given environment of the shot, I don't tend to change those things.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

May 13 16 11:32 pm Link

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Eros Fine Art Photo

Posts: 3097

Torrance, California, US

I'm with everyone else, when it comes to the car.  Personally, I'd say just crop in tighter, instead of cloning out the window.  There's a little too much dead space, so getting rid of it will only add strength to the main subject.  I'd also suggest softening the sepia tone some and bumping up the contrast to get at least something close to highlights. 

Great location, mood, and pose otherwise.

May 14 16 03:00 am Link

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D a v i d s o n

Posts: 1216

Gig Harbor, Washington, US

I like the image , but the car is a huge issue ...

May 18 16 09:23 pm Link

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DespayreFX

Posts: 1481

Delta, British Columbia, Canada

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
When I shoot on location I shoot what's there.  The shoe prints were there so I leave it.  Perhaps it would be better without the car, but that was also there. I am not creating a set, it's there, it's part of the given environment of the shot, I don't tend to change those things.

I'm not trying to change your mind about what to do with this image, but... smile

Just by going what you said, that location doesn't include the car. The car was there when you shot it, but it's not part of the location, any more than a pimple is part of a face. For me, I don't think removing a pimple is dishonest, it's not there all the time, it's not part of my story, and they tend to be a huge distraction, much like the car.

May 18 16 09:28 pm Link