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Bondage/fetish is something I want to add to my portfolio. Any models have advice or experiences with this style of shoot? Jun 19 16 07:15 pm Link Check out Ken Marcus studios, he is the top photographer in the bondage biz. He also shot for Playboy and Penthouse for years. Offer to shoot TF with him and who knows you could be fast tracked to many publications. Anyway connecting with him might be a way to learn more about the genre. Jun 19 16 08:05 pm Link BDSM stills and videos were my bread and butter from 2009-2011. Most of the work, I found between MM and FetLife. Unfortunately, you won't find many of these shoots on MM anymore. The Clips4Sale bubble has broken and with so much free erotica online, it's hard for content collectors to sell what they're creating so many have gone out of business. Feel free to PM me with any questions you have. I have shot bondage, discipline, spankings and impact play, full suspensions, damsel in distress and some extremely "niche" materials like inflatables, "mom jeans" and puffy coat fetishes. Jun 20 16 07:10 am Link I've done a bit of fetish modelling. Specifically in regards to bondage, make sure the rigger is someone who knows what he/she is doing. If the rope work is done wrong it can hurt you quite badly, sometimes leave long term og even permanent damage. And of course (as with any other shoot, but especially these types of shoots) check up on the photographer to make sure they can be trusted. Bondage puts you in a very vulnerable situation. Jun 20 16 12:50 pm Link Cecilia CPH wrote: ^ Absolutely this. Jun 20 16 01:07 pm Link I agree with everything that has already been mentioned. I have done some bondage and fetish work and am very cautiously expanding and exploring what I'm comfortable doing in those genres. Some of what I have done includes age related, body hair, cotton underwear and socks, spanking, girl/girl, tickling, and restraint. I really like what I have been able to do so far, and want to try new and different things as well. The important thing is for you to decide what you are comfortable with and what your personal limits are well before doing any sessions involving things which are new to you. I can't stress strongly enough the advice about working with people who are very experienced and know how to do things safely when it involves situations where caution is required. Also, be very aware that by definition every fetish is something that someone finds sexually exciting or arousing, you need to accept that fact and be comfortable knowing that some of the people who see the photos are going to use them for their own pleasure. While you and I might not get excited by all of those fetishes, someone will be and often the content is sold to collectors or on websites. That's a fact of life and can't be changed. Even the puffy coats and mom jeans which Koryn mentioned will have a following of fans that find the photos arousing. Who would have thought people want to see a 63 year old woman in white cotton underpants and ankle socks or knee socks? Most of it is totally harmless, for sure, but who are we to judge what other's preferences are with fetish material? I say take their money and go for it while remaining totally aware of the vulnerability you are exposed to as part of the process. If you look at modelling for fetish work as more of an acting job where you are given a loosely scripted scenario and need to act through the role and present appropriate facial and bodily expression, you will do fine. Jun 20 16 01:53 pm Link Cecilia CPH wrote: Please please pay attention to this! Fetish modelling can be quite fun but make sure you've got experienced riggers and do plenty of reference checks on the team Jun 20 16 02:13 pm Link 
Model Posts: 6638 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: OP, I suggest that before you take recommendations from people, you should thoroughly check out exactly what they are shooting. Some bondage photographers are shooting hardcore porn (which is fine as long as that's what you are looking for.) Make sure you do your homework. Jun 20 16 02:38 pm Link As a practicing kinkster I can assure ther is much more to fetish shoots than bondage. I have done shoots where very little to no rope was involved. If you do want to shoot bondage please please please check with your local kink leaders and find a great (not just good) rigger. This is especially important if you a doing suspensions. Nudity is also not absolutely necessary for a fetish shoot. I can put cuffs on you and secure you to a bench and have someone pretend spank or flog you and make it look real while you are dressed in shorts and a croptop. Jun 21 16 01:06 pm Link ArielZombina wrote: Take a look at the model list on my port, I've shot virtually every top bondage/fetish model in the industry over the past 15 years from Jewell Marceau to Candle Boxxx to Kobe Lee and everything in between. Their port info is there so hit them up for all the advice you'll ever need. Jun 22 16 08:04 pm Link I've done over a hundred fetish/bondage shoots, often involving rope suspension. At this point, I usually do my own rope work as well as the photography. Did you have a specific question? Jul 24 16 09:49 pm Link ArielZombina wrote: Hi, Jul 25 16 07:20 pm Link Create a Fetlife profile. You can see the immense variety of fetishes-- and photography and get information. Also to find photographers. That would also be a place (besides here and google) to research potential said fetish photographers; news about anyone who violates the basic code (safe, sane, and consensual) or is out of line travels fast. Most people in the kink world care deeply about fellow kinksters' safety. It would be wise to bring an escort especially to any shoot where you will be physically impaired in any way. Also know exactly what the shoot will entail, in detail; don't go into a shoot thinking to just play it by ear. And DON'T go by 50 Shades of Grey as inspiration! Any photographer who quotes that as inspiration has absolutely no idea what kink really is. For just a wide variety of kink imagery, go to kink.com, the company that the documentary is on. Jul 25 16 08:27 pm Link I thought I'd chime in here as a photographer who also specializes in Japanese rope bondage, commonly called Shibari/Kinbaku. Should you choose to enter in rope bondage, pay extra attention to all the models here who are warning you of the dangers of rope bondage, especially the Japanese forms. Many rope models make this form look good due to the fact that they are very experienced in being tied this way. They have spent enough time practicing with experienced riggers. Good luck in your journey and be safe! Jul 25 16 09:04 pm Link I hope ArielZombina shoots with me!   Jul 25 16 09:22 pm Link Thank you everyone who posted! It was beyond helpful and made me much more informed! Best regards to all!  Jul 25 16 09:42 pm Link As a bondage photographer, I am surprised no one has mentioned safe words and noises. This is a variant of the 'Traffic Light ' system ( saying 'red' means STOP ! ). When gagged, a safe noise applies. To start, check out the photographers references in this genre; for example, you can check mine on Purpleport, an English modelling agency ( search Fader). You can also join Fetlife and look for 'munches' in your area. These are gatherings of fetish-minded people who will always offer honest advice. The only problems encountered within this genre are from non-fetish people who lose their cool during shoots. That said, Welcome to M.M ! and enjoy your new career. Jul 26 16 01:41 am Link Also, clarify what someone means by fetish if they haven't gone into detail before you agree to the shoot. The word 'fetish' can apply to a -lot- of different things. Jul 26 16 01:52 am Link fader wrote: *facepalm* Jul 26 16 05:52 pm Link Paolo Diavolo wrote: Shhhhhh...he doesn't know that yet. xD Jul 26 16 06:57 pm Link Re. safewords; still, if someone is fully rigged up and needs to get out immediately, saying 'stop'/'get me down'/'insert expletive here' would still be necessary and surely would fit the definition of what a safeword is, situationally? Jul 27 16 06:07 am Link malefica wrote: ummm.....no....just.....no. Jul 27 16 10:30 am Link NYO STUDIO wrote: Huh, I didn't see the distinction. To me, a safeword isn't a solely kink-related word - or a safe word, alarm word, 'hey dammit, stop that/get me down'-word. That might be where the miscommunication is. To me, a safeword is just... 'stop, no, get me down'. Could just me my personal use of it *shrug* Jul 27 16 11:00 am Link scarcasm, in the tone at most, if anything, insulting to the first person who mentioned it maybe. clearly you haven't done it. but i am sure you have done photoshoots in the past. like i said, in a photoshoot, model and photographer are (or at least are supposted to be) communicating anyways. model able to speak or not is irrelevant. the body language and the ability to express discomfort is not diminished, infact is increased (the photographer can see and is looking for movement). doesn't matter what happens, to get out abruptly, doesn't make sense, why would that even happen? don't give me a million reasons why it happens, i am not here to argue. my point is simple, there is never a situation where the model is not able to communicate, and there is never a situation where the model needs to get out right away!! if someone did something wrong, then you have compications, that need to be worked out, but if a model went in there knowing she/he is being tied up. (movements limited, etc..) they are mentally prepared. the only thing i can think of is when the models airway is restricted. so they cannot breath. in that case the body goes into a shock after about 50sec. the WHOLE body goes into a panic mode and starts shaking violently, if the model was on a table when this happened, they would fly clear off the table when this occurs. even a dog would know something is wrong. there is no need to communicate that. otherwise there are markings on the body, photographers can tell from that what is happening to the model. what i mean to say is there are a million form communications going on simulataneously between model and photographer that creating a safe word/sound doesn't make sense. if a model has to use a safeword, then they are doing something wrong. the photographer would be an idiot if they needed a model to use the safeword, before they realized something is wrong. photographer should know right away if something is wrong, without safewords. i think your refering to your own instinct of "what ifs", and "what if" never end, and are usually never realistic. if your not comfortable, your hesitant or scared, you can come up with a million precautions, it will not help, it will be a disaster, dont do it. the photos will be terrible, your expressions will not be there. its a perfect ingredient for disaster. this applies to any work. even if there is no way to goof-up, your not confident about it, scared, thats it you will mess it up. something like learning to use a knife the first time. my fencing coach thought me this. i find it true in many cases. Jul 27 16 11:36 am Link I have shot significant shibari images and have worked with Matt Pang one of the top riggers in the country, who also teaches in Japan. I know when I am shooting suspension images I usually have only 90 seconds to shoot them. Then the rigger steps in and the suspension is stopped and a different tie is created. I should also add that the rigger was very involved and the models all had significant experience with Matt. If they even commented their thumb felt cold the tie was immediately adjusted to relieve the pressure on the thumb. Also some single ankle suspensions can be pretty tough. Your rigger should know your tolerance level and posing ability even when tied. I would also say breast suspensions and crotch ropes are for extremely trained riggers and experienced models. They should be approached with caution as injury could result. I know that Matt would never do those. Safe words were never needed because there was constant communication. Is a safe word a bad idea. No there is nothing wrong with a safe word Usually "Red" and if they can't speak the shake the head back and forth 3 times Jul 27 16 05:34 pm Link risen pheonix, EXACTLY MY POINT! THANK YOU for adding your experiences Jul 27 16 06:28 pm Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Curious. Jul 27 16 11:21 pm Link ThruTheAshes wrote: i think this should have been in a PM to pheonix....this thread should be for advices and experiences....on the other hand the OP is a model, who could look up those names and do some research, knowledge always helps. Jul 28 16 12:19 am Link NYO STUDIO wrote: Thank you for taking time to express your thoughts. Unfortunately for you, I know for a fact that I don't agree NYO STUDIO wrote: I commend you for at least knowing how to hit a nail on the head! Yes, knowledge is very helpful. This is especially true if someone drops a name in a public forum that I've never heard of. I know the names of all the top Nawashi's in Japan, hence my curiosity, in a public forum. This knowledge does not make me God. I simply study this art form. I am not attempting to question Risen Phoenix's integrity but I find a rigger named Matt, who teaches in Japan a bit odd. It's a very simple question that I'm sure Risen Phoenix can either continue to discuss openly here, in a PM, or he can simply choose to ignore it (for which I will consider him ignorant of what he's talking about.) Jul 28 16 08:58 am Link How do we find good riggers? It's not a search field on MM! ;-) Aug 01 16 06:50 am Link FFantastique wrote: Haha....good point, maybe MM should add that in their search parameters. Aug 01 16 07:55 am Link ArielZombina wrote: For starters, you may want to consider Elegant Bindings MM744123. As the name implies, this is very simple, elegant work done in the Los Angeles area. Aug 03 16 02:37 pm Link Lots of good advice here, but one suggestion - don't even think about suspension until you know what you're getting into. Aug 03 16 02:45 pm Link Paolo Diavolo wrote: Yes. But a safesignal can be very helpful when you shoot with a gagged and bound model. Aug 03 16 03:31 pm Link A bit late to this thread, as I'm not on the forums here very often. But it's good to see you're largely getting good advice. Make sure to get an experienced rigger who knows what they're doing. Go slowly with the ties, as it can be strenuous and unpredictable, both physically and mentally, to be tied up. Know your limits and clearly express them; some shoots rely on creating the mere appearance of bondage, other shoots rely on creating actual tension and pressure. Communicate clearly and directly with everyone involved throughout the process. Aug 10 16 09:51 am Link MaillerPhong wrote: I'm late too to this thread, but I'm happy to see all the people often advice and suggestions instead of just turning the model away from the genre. I'll add pretty much the same: do your research, check references, find someone who knows what they're doing and do what ever you feel need to do to be comfortable with the shoot. And have fun! Aug 16 16 08:48 pm Link Cecilia CPH wrote: There are many that would argue that bondage could also put you in a position of power. Aug 20 16 09:43 pm Link ArielZombina wrote: figure out the kind of style/genre you like, contact photographers that put out the kind of work you want to do and ask about shooting. Aug 20 16 10:07 pm Link kumi wrote: In my personal life when I'm playing/scening with partners? Sure Aug 21 16 01:24 am Link Im not here for the use of safe words on professional shoots where the participants are doing work and haven't agreed to have a play session with each other But this stuff here is crap NYO STUDIO wrote: There are a lot of situations where a person who is restrained may need to be unrestrained immediately, and no I don't expect the photographer to have a sixth sense about it and just know, it is a thing that can and should be clearly communicated instead of guessed upon. Aug 21 16 01:30 am Link |
