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. . . ya ain't allowed ta bitch about da results tomorrow . . .  SOS Nov 08 16 07:15 am Link not to worry. i haven't voted for either of the big two candidates since '00. i never understand the "lesser of two evil" voters. i'm just glad that this cycle is effing over after today (hopefully), and that one of these top two jokers will finally become an afterthought. and i mainly go to the polls for local stuff. the ca ballot this year was particularly cumbersome. Nov 08 16 07:38 am Link History today either way.... First woman President or first non politician. Wish I could vote for Theo Epstein  Nov 08 16 07:49 am Link Abstaining is still a vote. It is a decision to permit others to make a decision. We are FREE to do so. Abdicating a right to vote does not cause one to relinquish those rights that are guaranteed by the Constitution. Bitch all you want, as far as I am concerned. Not that I look forward to enduring the poll workers hovering within the legal setback from the door, I intend to vote and would encourage others to vote.  Nov 08 16 07:52 am Link Will be staying awake late tonight for this one, so much bitterness and hatred - which makes for entertaining viewing! Nov 08 16 08:00 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: +1 Nov 08 16 08:27 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: Duly noted . . . nice to live in a place that we can bitch no matter what the outcome is . . . Nov 08 16 08:41 am Link Plague or cholera? Okay - as a German Citizen I am not entitled to vote in the US and as a staunch follower of some smart minds like Thomas Jefferson or John Stuart Mill I regard it rather bad manners to tell other people and especially people in other countries how they have to vote. But in the face of legions of political nannies who tell the world that one must not vote for Trump because if you do so the sky will collapse and the end of the world will come or at least the angels of the Church of Global Warming and the Lodge of Political Correctness will cry bitter tears I can understand everybody who checks "TRUMP" - be it just for the reason that it is teasing to do what so many nannies have told you not to do.... ;-) (And, okay, I would like to see the dumbfounded faces of many of my fellow Europeans if TheDonald should win. A lot of our politicians would have to hope nobody remembers their public statements when they make their first official visits in the White House with Trump in the Oval Office...) Nov 08 16 08:47 am Link The US had a choice between 22-23 candidates and this was the best that they could come up with....pretty shameful if you ask me. Nov 08 16 08:49 am Link TomFRohwer wrote: well, now this thread is going to be shuttered. i figured an abstract thread would be turned to poison inside of 5 posts. but at least it made it to 7. Nov 08 16 09:03 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: +1 Nov 08 16 09:26 am Link GK photo wrote: See, we're makin' progress . . . Nov 08 16 09:32 am Link Nov 08 16 09:35 am Link sospix wrote:
Nov 08 16 09:38 am Link I am in favor of an option--NOTA--None Of The Above https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_above On the federal level, it's actual implementation would be very expensive...and would require a major change in laws, regulations, rules--there would be a massive number of moving parts to make it happen IRL. --------------------- With all due respect, factually if the Republican candidate wins, it will be the 5th or 6th non politician (per something I've read somewhere and George Will). The most recent non politician to win was Ike--but he was a 5-star general, Supreme Allied Commander. Pretty amazing character, if you ask me. According to one of his books he smoked about 5-packs a day. Then quit cold turkey. Asked how he did it, he explained, "I just gave myself an order!" Wow. If we could only run our lives with that level of internal/personal control! https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/961307 Presidential History thread. I apologize for not knowing who the other non politicians who were president are/were...and while I'm tempted to go research it. I'll DG--Defer Gratification! Nov 08 16 09:39 am Link FFantastique wrote: I thought maybe we could "trade" leaders with Canada, but, I don't think they're gonna go fer it . . . Nov 08 16 09:50 am Link sospix wrote: I am so, and I'm not voting. I still reserve the right for myself, and everyone else in my country to bitch about it tomorrow if I need to. Nov 08 16 10:07 am Link FFantastique wrote: well, i'd assume that potus #1 would have been in that list. and i'll also assume that any other military types would be the key. us grant, zachary taylor, etc. Nov 08 16 10:11 am Link DespayreFX wrote: Hard ta argue with that . . . I'm sure the stench of this election is plenty noticeable up wind from us . . . Nov 08 16 10:24 am Link GK photo wrote: It's like smokin' in teens, ever since they got cell phones in their mitts, the cigs have been out da winda . . . I have a feelin' the "after election hangover" may last awhile . . . did I mention "my" Raidas is winnin' . . . there must be some correlation to the election process, they haven't won nuthin' in a decade . . . Nov 08 16 10:27 am Link GK photo wrote: George Washington served in the Virginia House of Burgesses 1758-1765, was a delegate to both Continental Congresses, and was President of the Constitutional Convention. Nov 08 16 10:28 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: yeah yeah, but no one had been potus before then. i didn't clarify, but thanks for the reminder. Nov 08 16 10:33 am Link FlirtynFun Photography wrote: As usual I went Libertarian , Nov 08 16 11:21 am Link ELIGIBILITY for POTUS is in the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. Therefore unless the Canadian leader meets all those qualifications, including being Natural Born Citizen, he/she is ineligible for a swap deal. VOTING: Geographical dispropinquity is not a disqualification for voting. One submariner, had his sub surface to get his ballot faxed to him. So just because one in Canada doesn't mean one can't vote in the US election. What may be disqualifying is if one is not at least a valid US citizen [In other words, dual, or triple citizenship may be frowned upon by some governments but is still feasible. Governments don't like dual nationals because sometimes it's hard to get their attention and loyalties and then if they're taken hostage by a hostile country which of the two or three nations are really responsible for negotiating/rescuing--it can get messy. Like bigamy or trigamy* (another word I made up.)] VALID--To be valid [that's a term I'm using but there's probably a better word] one must not have had his/her voting rights revoked, i.e. sometimes felonies remove the right to vote. And sometimes it comes back and sometimes it doesn't. It's probably a lot more complicated than that but I'll leave it to others to do the more advanced version. REQUIRED/MANDATORY/COMPULSORY VOTING: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting Some countries/places have it but I'm glad that freedom includes the option NOT to vote. One can go to the polls and cast a totally blank ballot. However, the machine may reject it and may require manual processing. It's called an undervote. * https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trigamy As it turns out--somebody beat me to it! Nov 08 16 11:23 am Link I voted back in October, and got a nice e-mail from the Multnomah County Elections Division, telling me that my ballot was received, accepted as valid, and will be counted. Nov 08 16 11:50 am Link No matter how different ways I read them every election cycle, I still get misty eyed about people visiting the graves of the suffragettes where voters put their "I voted" stickers on the gravestone. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/nyreg … etery.html Nov 08 16 11:52 am Link FFantastique wrote: Its funny you should mention this. Nov 08 16 11:57 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: To say nothing about how politically a 3-star general has to be in order to balance out the needs of 13 states all who a say themselves as a member of a loose confederacy with competing interest that were often in conflict with the others. Nov 08 16 12:00 pm Link I'm voting on November 28! Nov 08 16 12:24 pm Link I got my vote in. Incredible lines for the other district at my voting place. Every office was a choice between horribles. A trick question was on the ballot: To amend the PA constitution so that judges have to retire at the end of the calendar year in which they turn 75. No mention about the retirement age being 70 now. One party had the wording changed, even removed it from a previous election so it could be reworded in a way to make it more likely to pass. Nov 08 16 02:13 pm Link My money's firmly on Trump. He's more personable than the press portrays him and he's undoubtedly got carried away in some of the things he's said. But being non PC will appeal to the masses even if they're not prepared to admit it openly. I suspect the result will be at odds with the polls and the pollsters will be left scratching their heads again. Nov 08 16 02:37 pm Link Factchecking myself: Somewhere I posted that thrice it went to the house...according to this it's only twice. http://offbeat.topix.com/quiz/17203/qidx9 I can understand better why it's easy to misspeak when talking about so many topics to so many people, while tired and sleep deprive and cameras aimed at you! Nov 08 16 06:11 pm Link Anybody else feel really weird about doing a split ticket? There were a couple slots where I thought, 'well, he's not my guy ... but he's got a history of doing well for the community, and my guy is aggressively ignorant, and I don't see him accomplishing anything.' And no, I'm not talking about the presidency. I know that's how the system is supposed to work, but I still feel bad about it. I know I did my civic duty correctly, and it pisses me off that the system has conspired to make me feel bad about doing the right thing. Nov 08 16 06:12 pm Link If someone feels our two party primary voting system produces 2 candidates neither of which is worthy of electing, they have every right to bitch in my opinion. Nov 08 16 06:42 pm Link Abbitt Photography wrote: Disagreed. Choosing not to vote is saying, 'you guys all suck, and I want no part of this.' Even if you were a Bernie or Buster, you should at least write him in. It'll go nowhere, but will at least tell the Democrats what you think they should do next. Nov 08 16 07:17 pm Link I abstained from voting because I don't like either candidate. I don't like Clinton at all, and I wouldn't have voted for her in any circumstance, and I don't like Trump much either. I didn't want to vote for that clown... but it looks like the clown will win. Well... at least a Trump presidency won't be boring. Comedians will have plenty of material to work with... Nov 08 16 10:20 pm Link I voted and ya aint gonna hear any bitching from me! Nov 09 16 12:34 am Link And now we all know the result. Nov 09 16 02:38 am Link TomFRohwer wrote: I think pointing and laughing is likely to be a more typical reaction. And I don't think that's an entirely fair. Nov 09 16 03:07 am Link Of course if HC hadn't raised huge amounts of money from NAFTA supporting corporations, then Trump would probably have had to run against Sanders... Nov 09 16 03:09 am Link |
