VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

Problably because on the online MM world most of the content is 18 plus.

Marissah Leigh  wrote:
Liability issues. Someone under the age of 18 cannot sign a legally binding contract, and usually require an escort, which some photographers don't allow. It's illegal to shoot minors in sexual ways, and lots of photographers enjoy doing nude/lingerie/glamour photography.

Also, maturity issues.

QFT

Aryx wrote:
You're just not in my city/state!

+1  do not discriminate on age. If we can add to eachothers port then its whatever as long as I can get a parental signature its all good!

Steve Broadbent wrote:
Parents can cause many problems.

This flat out.

Now Occasionally I have and will work with a minor...but to me it is so frustrating because more often than not the parents are either:

(a) divorced and therefore more interested in pissing each other off instead of focusing on their child (model)

OR

(b) one parent is (usually) in a state of dis approval on some level, therefore, causing more issues at hand

OR

(c) one parent is over-bearing to the point of stressing out the model, therefore causing issues.

OR

(d) neither parent gives a shit about their child (model), therefore the child/model tries to push the boundaries with me by asking to do "mature" poses which I will not allow because I am too freaking cute to be someone's bitch in prison

Lumigraphics wrote:
Models under 18 are welcome to hire me with their parents approval

Same here !!!!! 4 of them in my port.... but 2 just turned 18 last month.

Archangel 318 Studios wrote:

+1  do not discriminate on age. If we can add to eachothers port then its whatever as long as I can get a parental signature its all good!

Well, I really shouldn't use it as an excuse... I've got Phoebe from Phoenix, and GREENEYESDIVA from Florida in my port...

VanessaNicole wrote:
Well I turn 18 in August but trying to start building my porfolio now is kinda frustrating and I'm not doing nude work.

If you're doing fashion/beauty etc work only, it shouldn't be too hard to find a photographer. Just make sure you act mature and responsible, and have the permission of your parent(s) before shooting. Have your parents meet with the photographer to clear up any issues.

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

I have photographed maybe 100 models under 18  never had a problem  ,and have had there parents book me to shoot them ,

I am a photographer its what I do .

most parents know I shoot fine art nudes . and some have booked me for that as well . to me its all networking and income .

be professional and all is well ,,and make more money . some of the shoots are nothing but fun ,,working with kids is ok .


phillip

Swank Photography wrote:

This flat out.

Now Occasionally I have and will work with a minor...but to me it is so frustrating because more often than not the parents are either:

(a) divorced and therefore more interested in pissing each other off instead of focusing on their child (model)

OR

(b) one parent is (usually) in a state of dis approval on some level, therefore, causing more issues at hand

OR

(c) one parent is over-bearing to the point of stressing out the model, therefore causing issues.

OR

(d) neither parent gives a shit about their child (model), therefore the child/model tries to push the boundaries with me by asking to do "mature" poses which I will not allow because I am too freaking cute to be someone's bitch in prison

You must have some cranky parents in the Keys.. Personally I've had only 1 parent issue and I shoot a great deal of under 18..

VanessaNicole wrote:
Well I turn 18 in August but trying to start building my porfolio now is kinda frustrating and I'm not doing nude work.

I'm a 150 miles from Chicago and have low rates

Brian Douglas Ahern wrote:
Sometimes it has more to do with the photographer than the model.  It is in my case.  I do not do sexual or suggestive imagery, but since I am a single gay man, it is often automatically assumed that I do.

I avoid under 18 shoots simply because it is far too easy for overanxious, nervous, and bigoted mothers to point the condemning finger and claim anything they choose to see as suggestive or obscene is just that.

I once inquired on Facebook of a model, well over 21, if a relative of his was his brother.  He responded that it was his cousin.  Within one day, I received a volatile letter from the cousin's mother, threatening to have me jailed for "soliciting a minor" as she put it.  A kid I never even spoke to or communicated with at all.  I can only imagine what hell would have befallen me if the kid was also a model and asked me to photograph him.  He was 17.

So for my own safety, I do not photograph minors, under any circumstances.

THIS. THIS is why I wont work with anyone under eighteen. Yes, I do erotic and nudes, yes, I do shoots that all would agree are adult in nature. I also do shoots that aren't, and I STILL wont work with an under eighteen model because of the problems it could cause, and it doesn't matter if your gay or straight or pink with purple polka dots- it can still happen.
Personally, I would much rather avoid this, although I will still do, say, a family shoot if its in exchange for an adult models time, and only if that's what he/she/hir/ze wants.

Lumigraphics wrote:
Models under 18 are welcome to hire me with their parents approval

+1

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

I've been contacted several times my minors.  The minute I tell them a parent will have to be involved and the parent will need to sign a release I never hear from them again.

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

Those who do not work with minors do so because they do not want to.

Swank Photography wrote:
(d) neither parent gives a shit about their child (model), therefore the child/model tries to push the boundaries with me by asking to do "mature" poses which I will not allow because I am too freaking cute to be someone's bitch in prison

JWB wrote:

Those who do not work with minors do so because they do not want to.

Smh. Anyways, there are different reasons. Some have been already pointed out. One thing I think is the biggest issue is fear. Some don't want to get caught up in the photographing minor thing period because of the fears of possibly being accused of doing something that he or she didn't do.

Jon Wildman wrote:
I've been contacted several times my minors.  The minute I tell them a parent will have to be involved and the parent will need to sign a release I never hear from them again.

I've had that sort of thing a couple times; one said her parents were not relevant in her life, and no other photographer used a release . . . .

Another just said "let's wait until my birthday" since she wanted styles I wouldn't shoot with a 17 year old.  No shoot happened with either, at least so far, and both are 18 by now.

On the other hand, I've had 3-4 shoots with underage models, and I am working on another.  All will have parental involvement, and generally parents present.

VanessaNicole wrote:
However the photographers I have contacted do various types of work from fashion all the way to nude. But I just want fashion and commercial right now and they won't respond.

Maybe your look may not be what they're looking for, or see my example above your last reply.

Brian Douglas Ahern wrote:
Sometimes it has more to do with the photographer than the model.  It is in my case.  I do not do sexual or suggestive imagery, but since I am a single gay man, it is often automatically assumed that I do.

I avoid under 18 shoots simply because it is far too easy for overanxious, nervous, and bigoted mothers to point the condemning finger and claim anything they choose to see as suggestive or obscene is just that.

I once inquired on Facebook of a model, well over 21, if a relative of his was his brother.  He responded that it was his cousin.  Within one day, I received a volatile letter from the cousin's mother, threatening to have me jailed for "soliciting a minor" as she put it.  A kid I never even spoke to or communicated with at all.  I can only imagine what hell would have befallen me if the kid was also a model and asked me to photograph him.  He was 17.

So for my own safety, I do not photograph minors, under any circumstances.

That's a sad and pathetic attitude to have, frankly. One dumbass mother has a problem and so you won't shoot anyone under 18? Wow.

VanessaNicole wrote:
However the photographers I have contacted do various types of work from fashion all the way to nude. But I just want fashion and commercial right now and they won't respond.

You are completely unsuited for fashion. Didn't Barbizon teach you a thing about the real world? If you want to shoot commercial, send me a PM.

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

Someone for the style (nude,glamour), some other for potential issue with parents.
However i think ask don't hurt, when a photographer don't have shoot of underage on the port don't automatically means that don't shoot underage.

VanessaNicole wrote:
Well I turn 18 in August but trying to start building my porfolio now is kinda frustrating and I'm not doing nude work.

Enjoy the frustrations you have now, because once you've turned 18 you'll trade them in for a lot more frustrations, particularly when the requests for nude shoots start pouring in, as I'm sure they will.

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

Because if you make a mistake in posing a model over 18 and more than u want shows up in the image.....u just delete it...
Do that with an underage model and the sheriff dept.....shows up and u are in the newspaper...

Michael

VanessaNicole wrote:
Why do many photographers on here do not work with anyone under 18? There are more models out there that are under 18 why is that?

they are paranoid...

evidence, the post above mine..

S W I N S K E Y wrote:

they are paranoid...

evidence, the post above mine..

lmfao