TXPhotog wrote:

She's being marketed as a plus model, which is closer to the way commercial agencies work.

oh ok.  I didn't realize that, never been a plus model

Viktoria wrote:

oh ok.  I didn't realize that, never been a plus model

She's really not one either.  At most, a size 8, which is very small for a plus model.

TXPhotog wrote:

She's really not one either.  At most, a size 8, which is very small for a plus model.

ok, so how are they going to market her as plus size if she doesn't fit the clothes?

Viktoria wrote:

ok, so how are they going to market her as plus size if she doesn't fit the clothes?

I don't know.  BTW, her stats on her MM profile are very wrong.

TXPhotog wrote:

I don't know.  BTW, her stats on her MM profile are very wrong.

i know.  Biana, do you know what your accurate measurements/sizing is?

Viktoria wrote:

ok, so how are they going to market her as plus size if she doesn't fit the clothes?

i was wondering that too. ask her to gain weight?

id much rather lose 15 pounds then gain 30-40. no thanks.

Lynn Elizabeth wrote:

Well I would never go to a modeling school. that's just a giant waste of money.

I'm short, and I never paid for any of my pictures, and have been paid for several. Sometimes I respond to castings here or Craigslist, or else Im approached.

Chloe J Clark wrote:

I'm short, and I never paid for any of my pictures, and have been paid for several. Sometimes I respond to castings here or Craigslist, or else Im approached.

your lucky though, you live in califlonia. new york and califlonia have the best craigslist stuff. everywhere else is like porn, nude, fetish, sexy maxim stuff, and lingerie.

my sister does a few promo jobs off of that site though.

Shernide wrote:

haha im the opposite. i hate stability. i cant be in one place for too long or i get bored. I would love to travel around and stuff. traveling is exciting to me.

What if you do really well in this modeling thing and have to travel and move around a lot? Are you planning on doing this long term if you find out you actually do have what it takes?

thats good about the studio job being flexible though.

That's not what I'm talking about.  I would love to travel, as long as I have a steady pay check and a warm home waiting for me.

TXPhotog wrote:

She's really not one either.  At most, a size 8, which is very small for a plus model.

More like a six (I'm assuming, since the largest pant size I wear is a 4)

Viktoria wrote:

i know.  Biana, do you know what your accurate measurements/sizing is?

nope.  Wish I did.

Shernide wrote:

i was wondering that too. ask her to gain weight?

id much rather lose 15 pounds then gain 30-40. no thanks.

I was thinking that.  They didn't say anything about gaining weight.  In fact, I mentioned that I was on a diet and they didn't seem to have a problem with it, the only thing they said was that they'll know if I'm not eating.  I don't think it's going to be much of a problem because given my figure, my weight doesn't really fall below 130.  One problem that I may have is that my weight seems to change a lot.

Viktoria wrote:

i know.  Biana, do you know what your accurate measurements/sizing is?

I have one full length pic on my profile though, so you can check that to get a feel of my figure.

BianaNewYork wrote:

I was thinking that.  They didn't say anything about gaining weight.  In fact, I mentioned that I was on a diet and they didn't seem to have a problem with it, the only thing they said was that they'll know if I'm not eating.  I don't think it's going to be much of a problem because given my figure, my weight doesn't really fall below 130.  One problem that I may have is that my weight seems to change a lot.

if your weight is 130 and you are 5'10 then you are only 10 lbs too heavy for straight modeling and nowhere near close enough for plus size.  frankly i have no idea why they actually signedy ou then.  you won't fit the clothes.  the castings you've gone to, have they had you try on clothes? did it fir?

Yasmineamali wrote:

oh so you turned down willy because they only do exclusive , I see . they want you to make them money but also have you under warps so they basically control you. if i would have only know this .....

i wouldnt worry about signing exclusively...most do and its not a bad decision if they are getting you work...i started out freelancing and having one agency, in my opinion, is much better. it says you're committed to this person and that means they are probably willing to do more for you because of that..you're a team..but one thing you should realize is its your career and they work for you

Tenley  wrote:

i wouldnt worry about signing exclusively...most do and its not a bad decision if they are getting you work...i started out freelancing and having one agency, in my opinion, is much better. it says you're committed to this person and that means they are probably willing to do more for you because of that..you're a team..but one thing you should realize is its your career and they work for you

My agency is top ten they only sign girls exclusively it was that or not sign.

Cassiopeia wrote:
For models who are signed or are getting paid for their shoots . . .

What was your initial investment into modeling, getting your portfolio and whatever else you needed to actually get signed??

I know they say you should never pay a company to get you out there and what not, but I've also heard that to get yourself out there requires a lot of investment of time and money.

How much does it really cost you, before you start actually making?

I've never paid anyone, for anything. Trade only.
So I guess I have only profited. See no reason a talented model should have to do otherwise, unless she's signed to an agency.

Chloe J Clark wrote:

I'm short, and I never paid for any of my pictures, and have been paid for several. Sometimes I respond to castings here or Craigslist, or else Im approached.

I can easily see why. I approached a lady in her late 30's a month ago and she had what I would call a chisled face structure.  She was definately pissed off.

Viktoria wrote:

if your weight is 130 and you are 5'10 then you are only 10 lbs too heavy for straight modeling and nowhere near close enough for plus size.  frankly i have no idea why they actually signedy ou then.  you won't fit the clothes.  the castings you've gone to, have they had you try on clothes? did it fir?

nope, they didn't make me try on anything. I'm not 130, I'm around 134-8.

Cat Melnyk Photography wrote:

Oh ignorance .... I'm 5'5 and 150 lbs.... say somethings wrong with my weight? well until you know the facts about someone don't go judging.
I'm a professional swimmer - 6 pack, built to kick your ass - maybe the girl only has 7 lbs less muscle than you?!

BianaNewYork wrote:

But the way they explained it to me, I only pay back if and when I get work.  Work I would not recieve without their backing.  It's not like I'm going to some random studio, paying hundreds of dollars just to continue looking for work myself.

In most cases your agency contract will stipulate that in the event your cost to be promoted are not covered by your model income they have the ability to bill you. Also if you don't pay in many contracts there is a clause that states that they can bring legal proceeding against you and you will be responsible for those attorney and filing fees on top of the original debt. now it's been a while since I did commercial work but I doubt the agents got nicer. Do you have a copy of your contract? you should read it fully..though prior to signing would have been a better time to have done so.

Amanda Somers wrote:
omg i've spent so much freaking money jsut on gas. I never pay to do a shoot, and sometimes i do get paid.. but since i live 2 hours from either portland or seattle, it costs me at least $30 in gas, then parking tickets which i seem to be getting quite often.. lol and paying a sitter. But, it will all pay off soon.. i hope lol

so it has not payed off yet?

Ali Studios wrote:

so it has not payed off yet?

eh it's prolly about evened out and i'll be asking for my gas to always be paid from now on. I think i've done enough free shoots to at least ask for 20-30 to help me out.. i dunno though it really depends on the photog to tell you the truth.

TXPhotog wrote:
A point of reference:  Not all that many years ago, Steven Meisel didn't own a camera or a studio.  It's entirely possible that he doesn't own either now.  He just rents them as needed.  No investment in equipment at all.  And yet somehow he gets all those Vogue editorials . . . .

Katrinalucy wrote:
I just want to make a point that everyone seems to miss, you dont have to be like 5'8 plus to be a model you need to be 5'8 plus to be a CATWALK model. Agencies that deal with high fashion and catwalks will reject ppl under that height but glamour is not the only other type of modeling.

I mean take really old people that appear in loads of adverts etc, they're hardly gonna be in the same agency as get moss but that dont mean they dont have an agency at all. People below 5'8 arent good at nothing except getting their boobs out!!!!

Hee!!