GG-Deluxe wrote:
Bump.

No one likes the Ranger/Ranger Speed?

Another thing. Would most here prefer an assymetrical 2 head battery pack or a symmetrical one and why?

If I knew what it was, I could offer an opinion.

The Rusty Horse wrote:
I've just got the RX Speed AS and it all looks good so far. I'll be giving it a proper workout over the next month or so.

I am happy enough with all of my Elinchrom lights, so I don't expect anything less from the Ranger gear.

What Watt Seconds are you getting from the lights at full power - ie what are the ratios. I only know the total is 1100 Ws.

GG-Deluxe wrote:

What Watt Seconds are you getting from the lights at full power - ie what are the ratios. I only know the total is 1100 Ws.

It's a 66/33% off-set. (I suppose the other 1% just sort of sits in the middle somewhere!!).

The Rusty Horse wrote:

It's a 66/33% off-set. (I suppose the other 1% just sort of sits in the middle somewhere!!).

Would you have gotten the symmetrical one if you could do it again? What makes the AS better?

GG-Deluxe wrote:

Would you have gotten the symmetrical one if you could do it again? What makes the AS better?

I may add the symmetrical at some point, but the AS suits the way I work - I've never been one for symmetry! It was easier for me to find a controlled way to boost the 33% side than to try and 'unbalance' the symmetrical set.

Like everything it depends on your style and requirements. I could sit here typing for the rest of the day to run through my thinking, but it wouldn't help you.

Gaylord Hill wrote:
The Vagabond has AC outlets. You can plug ANYTHING into them. Isn't the Ranger proprietary--you can only connect a Elinchrom head?

Might be a problem.

I can run my iPhone/iPod with speakers out on location and my strobes!!

It's only a problem if you need AC on location. For those of us that don't, converting DC to AC is a waste - it's cleaner to run a dedicated DC setup.

Emily Fine Again wrote:
I was always more of a fan of the Red Ranger myself.

I like the Power Ranger, great cartoon

La Image inc wrote:

I like the Power Ranger, great cartoon

*high fives*

La Image inc wrote:
The battery pack is great water proof, but because of the cost (£1195 or $2449 US dollar in UK!!)for a Ranger battery pack, Profoto cost even more.

Also you only get 140 flashes for small one, big one only 250 flashes!! $2654 dollar for 250 flashes!!

I am ordering a PURE SINE WAVES petrol driven power pack, it only cost (£425 or $871 US dollar) in gives you 2000 W of electricity for 5 hours!!!
You can have as many flashes with you monoblock as you like in 5 hours!! When it runs out just add Gas (put some petrol in)

ALL battery pack got limited life cycles, one also need to find out how much is the replacement battery!

FOR PURE SINE wave invertors & power pack check it out www.batterymegastore.co.uk
click on accessory, you will see the petrol driven power pack.

If it rain I don't use studio light outdoor!!

10 kg setup (pack + battery + head) vs 21 kg generator (not including lights). A setup that'll fit into a shoulder case vs a generator that you'd need both hands to carry (again, not including lights).

Some of us value portability. And some of us only want to make one trip to the car

BlindMike wrote:

10 kg setup (pack + battery + head) vs 21 kg generator (not including lights). A setup that'll fit into a shoulder case vs a generator that you'd need both hands to carry (again, not including lights).

Some of us value portability. And some of us only want to make one trip to the car

Ooo I forgot about that

I better put an ads on " location shoot plus a free pumping iron session for your Chapter One"

La Image inc wrote:
When using 2 heads with a Ranger 1100J pack if it is symmetic it split in half 550J per head.

But for asymmetric pack it depends what ratios you set it , you can have one at 700J the other head 400J.

Thanks. But is that in the specs released by Elinchrom or just an educated guess about the power in each head?

Honestly this pack (and the Hensel Porty) seem to be great, but what is with these proprietary flash sync systems? Dont they know that people largely use PWs with their Sekonic meters, or just even PWs.

GG-Deluxe wrote:

Thanks. But is that in the specs released by Elinchrom or just an educated guess about the power in each head?

Honestly this pack (and the Hensel Porty) seem to be great, but what is with these proprietary flash sync systems? Dont they know that people largely use PWs with their Sekonic meters, or just even PWs.

All the specs are on the Elinchrom website: http://www.elinchrom.com/

GG-Deluxe wrote:
I couldnt see the output in Ws for 66/33 2:1 output.

It just says 2:1, 66%:33% and that the maximum is 1100 Ws down to the lowest setting.

Does this mean you can use 1 head at 1100 Ws?

Using both heads, what is the maximum Ws on the head with the most power?

And what is with the proprietary flash sync system? Has anyone used PWs with this or the Hensel Porty successfully?

Well it's 726J on one head & 374J on the other.

GG-Deluxe wrote:
Does this mean you can use 1 head at 1100 Ws?

You can use 1 head at full power, meaning 1100w/s.

GG-Deluxe wrote:
That strikes me as a not so powerful lighting combo.

I really like it - but come on - Vagabond II can power 4 640Ws AB1600s for over 100 flashes.

Is there any way to use PWs with it?

I think Elinchrom use a radio syn device call Skyport or Sky...something, if that's what you mean by PWs
It trigger all Elinchrom flash, you need to check on that. But it can definately link with a PC to program the ratios
I use a RX monoblock so not sure.

La Image inc wrote:

I think Elinchrom use a radio syn device call Skyport or Sky...something, if that's what you mean by PWs
It trigger all Elinchrom flash, you need to check on that. But it can definately link with a PC to program the ratios
I use a RX monoblock so not sure.

Thanks - the answer is hidden above - You can buy a sync cord - Elinchrom Sync standard to mono 1/8" plug.

But honestly, the specs for this pack as much as I like it just dont seem to have the juice.

2 heads only
Using both maximum is about 750 J

Vagabond II will let you use 3 or 4 heads (or more), and using just 2 AB1600s @ 640J each seems to have the same power.

I know that the Elinchrom is a "premium" Swiss product but so what. The consistency in color temperature is there I guess.

The Buff lighting just seems to have a lot more value for the same power.

GG-Deluxe wrote:

Thanks - the answer is hidden above - You can buy a sync cord - Elinchrom Sync standard to mono 1/8" plug.

But honestly, the specs for this pack as much as I like it just dont seem to have the juice.

2 heads only
Using both maximum is about 750 J

Vagabond II will let you use 3 or 4 heads (or more), and using just 2 AB1600s @ 640J each seems to have the same power.

I know that the Elinchrom is a "premium" Swiss product but so what. The consistency in color temperature is there I guess.

The Buff lighting just seems to have a lot more value for the same power.

If you know all this, why start the thread? It can turn into another prosumer vs professional lighting argument and weee, we can all go round in circles.

I love my Elinchrom system. A friend has 3 AB's. Do they work? Yes. Can you make great images? Surely, light is light. Would I trade him? No.

I like the build, I like the system, I like the modifiers, I like adjusting in 1/10ths instead of a slider, I like recycle times. I like having my light stand supporting everything, the pack underneath it, and no wires going to or coming from it.

Cheers,
Thomas