Iconix Studio wrote:
Some reviews can be done via webcam. So I counter those who responded to the opposite. If travel is involved I have no objection to a photographer reviewing the models I represent via webcam under controlled situations. So not all webcam request are scams. Those that scream "scam" before they understand the situation are typically ill informed and have a preconceived notion of a situation under which they have very little facts.

Photographers can use snapshots to see what a model looks like.
So do agencies.  And she was talking about agencies, who wouldn't use a webcam

Nikki A wrote:
So do agencies.  And she was talking about agencies, who wouldn't use a webcam

So listen to us scream.

Iconix Studio wrote:
Some reviews can be done via webcam. So I counter those who responded to the opposite. If travel is involved I have no objection to a photographer reviewing the models I represent via webcam under controlled situations. So not all webcam request are scams. Those that scream "scam" before they understand the situation are typically ill informed and have a preconceived notion of a situation under which they have very little facts.

This is bullshit.

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Iconix Studio wrote:
Some reviews can be done via webcam. So I counter those who responded to the opposite. If travel is involved I have no objection to a photographer reviewing the models I represent via webcam under controlled situations. So not all webcam request are scams. Those that scream "scam" before they understand the situation are typically ill informed and have a preconceived notion of a situation under which they have very little facts.

If we're talking about a high quality video conferencing setup maybe.  But webcam image quality is generally pretty crappy.  What can they see with a webcam that they cannot see in some quality images?  It seems like the models would be better served by sending some good shots to the person doing the casting.  And if they want to talk to the model, there's always the phone.

Iconix Studio wrote:
Some reviews can be done via webcam. So I counter those who responded to the opposite. If travel is involved I have no objection to a photographer reviewing the models I represent via webcam under controlled situations. So not all webcam request are scams. Those that scream "scam" before they understand the situation are typically ill informed and have a preconceived notion of a situation under which they have very little facts.

Do you manage models too? I know a few in your area looking for managers.

John Jebbia wrote:
I've got a question for the photographers here. Just hypothetically. Lets say you got a wild hair up your ass and wanted to fly a particular model in for a shoot. Would you not like to see what she looks like in real-time (webcam) before you committed and bought the plane ticket?

Some may just look at the port, some may ask for some no makeup snap shots, some may want to see a website, and undoubtedly, some will want to see the model on webcam. None of that has anything to do with what Elite would do.

John Jebbia wrote:
I've got a question for the photographers here. Just hypothetically. Lets say you got a wild hair up your ass and wanted to fly a particular model in for a shoot. Would you not like to see what she looks like in real-time (webcam) before you committed and bought the plane ticket?

It seriously wouldn't tell you anything you need to know.  Any kindof webcam audition or review has other motives, IMO. 

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John Jebbia wrote:
I've got a question for the photographers here. Just hypothetically. Lets say you got a wild hair up your ass and wanted to fly a particular model in for a shoot. Would you not like to see what she looks like in real-time (webcam) before you committed and bought the plane ticket?

Yes, and like my previous post pointed out.  I've done that with the model showing me potential outfits she had in mind and I found it very convenient.

Nikki A wrote:

Photographers can use snapshots to see what a model looks like.
So do agencies.  And she was talking about agencies, who wouldn't use a webcam

There are many ways to accomplish the same thing. Some only accept polaroids, some digital images, some other mechanisms. Personally, I encourage all forms of technology adoption to make full reviews possible. Those that scream foul, let them. I would say webcam utilization is on the edge of acceptable.

For us, we fully evaluate the look and personality of ever model we work with, even if contracted through an agency. It takes more than just looks to make a model a "good" model.

So I will agree that webcam is fringe and non-standard "today"... and as they say, opinions are just that, opinions.

Greg Cobb Photography wrote:
Click at the top where it says Info, then Contact A Moderator.  Let them know who this person is.  Depending on who sees it, something may or may not be done.

Don't hold your breath about the mods.

Emily Hammond wrote:
Simply put, do agencies do these?

NO but freaks like me do = )

Iconix Studio wrote:

There are many ways to accomplish the same thing. Some only accept polaroids, some digital images, some other mechanisms. Personally, I encourage all forms of technology adoption to make full reviews possible. Those that scream foul, let them. I would say webcam utilization is on the edge of acceptable.

For us, we fully evaluate the look and personality of ever model we work with, even if contracted through an agency. It takes more than just looks to make a model a "good" model.

So I will agree that webcam is fringe and non-standard "today"... and as they say, opinions are just that, opinions.

What you do has no bearing on what professional modeling agencies do. They DO NOT use webcams for evaluations. Some won't even take digital submissions. This thread is not about what everyone else may or may not do with a webcam. The question is "Do agencies use webcams for evaluation?"

The answer is a resounding no. No if, ors, buts.

PYPI wrote:

Some may just look at the port, some may ask for some no makeup snap shots, some may want to see a website, and undoubtedly, some will want to see the model on webcam. None of that has anything to do with what Elite would do.

The "scammer" I talked to claimed to be a model with Elite. I looked at the website and did not see her name.

Do agencies post ALL their models publicly? Or is there a special client log in to view MORE models?

Iconix Studio wrote:
Trust me, many large agencies and studios use webcam auditions. We have had our fair share of flakes whom we flew in or we sent a team to work with at remote locations. We implemented webcam auditions under specific situations for specific projects. No studio or agency is in to spending money only to discover the model they are working with is not right for the work... or worse yet, personality is out in left field.

You will find that more models yell foul then photographers, studios, or agencies when it comes to webcam inquiry.

This, too..is bullshit.  Large agencies do NOT do webcam auditions. 

Client jobs with fees mean in-person audtiions from agencies.  And this poster's "on the edge of acceptable" speaks volumes.  Talent you 'flew in'?  for paying jobs?  based on a webcam audition?  puleeeeze.

I'm not low tech.   And do business internationally nearly every day.

I'm just not buying it at all.  But that's just me. 

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Candies wrote:
I have an interest in webcam and the only time I saw webcam auditions was LOL for non-nude aka..I get nude but I dont show the parts..LOL or porny sites.

WTF??? i need a translator...

Emily Hammond wrote:

The "scammer" I talked to claimed to be a model with Elite. I looked at the website and did not see her name.

Do agencies post ALL their models publicly? Or is there a special client log in to view MORE models?

Emily Hammond wrote:

Why would a MODEL be auditioning you anyway?

This was just some scam to get you on cam.  Nothing real.

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martinimages wrote:

This, too..is bullshit.  Large agencies do NOT do webcam auditions. 

Client jobs with fees mean in-person audtiions from agencies.  And this poster's "on the edge of acceptable" speaks volumes.  Talent you 'flew in'?  for paying jobs?  based on a webcam audition?  puleeeeze.

I'm not low tech.   And do business internationally nearly every day.

I'm just not buying it at all.  But that's just me. 

B

It's very easy to be a nay sayer in the crowd. You stick with your business model and we'll stick with ours. As far as I am concerned we will always use whatever technology or process is available to insure we are dealing with the right model for any given project. Opinions are a dime a dozen and people will use what works for them.

Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:
There have been times when I am flying a model in from out of town that I have never met and I have conferenced with her on the webcam.  It is usually just to be sure she actually looks like her pictures before I spring for a plane ticket.  In the case of a photographer and an out of town model, that isn't common but it isn't unheard of.

The OP's question though wasn't about a photographer who was flying her in, the question was about whether agencies do that and they don't.  Agencies don't sign talent from across the planet.  Most of the bigger ones just have open calls.

They will just see you when they meet you and send you away if you aren't right.

Agreed. I have never heard of an agency webcaming a candidate model. Nor would they ever have to. There is enough local talent and wanna-be talent that it would be unheard of for an agency to do so. So keeping in context with the original post, agencies have never typically had the need to access to remote talent.

Iconix Studio wrote:
It's very easy to be a nay sayer in the crowd. You stick with your business model and we'll stick with ours. As far as I am concerned we will always use whatever technology or process is available to insure we are dealing with the right model for any given project. Opinions are a dime a dozen and people will use what works for them.

The question is whether agencies do this. They do not.

You seem to be claiming that they do and, by inference, that you're also an agency.

Some reviews can be done via webcam. So I counter those who responded to the opposite.

Personally, I encourage all forms of technology adoption to make full reviews possible. Those that scream foul, let them. I would say webcam utilization is on the edge of acceptable.

For us, we fully evaluate the look and personality of ever model we work with, even if contracted through an agency. It takes more than just looks to make a model a "good" model.

Just so there's no confusion - these quotes insinuate that you are both claiming agencies do this and that you are also an agency.

I'd suggest you clear that up for obvious reasons. Are you an agency?

Agreed. I have never heard of an agency webcaming a candidate model.

But just a few posts back, you said...

Trust me, many large agencies and studios use webcam auditions.

Which is it?