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Photographer

LITHIUM PICNIC studio

Posts: 189

Los Angeles, California, US

[Jun. 15th, 2008|08:07 am]

lithiumpicnic

Dear Community,



We have some news about our fight with SuicideGirls. We all sat down together and worked out an agreement that is really fair to everyone. We are especially relieved that we can now send people back to SuicideGirls.com to see all of our early work together without feeling dirty. smile



We are so glad to have this whole thing behind us. Good Luck to SuicideGirls in the future and look out for their new book coming out this fall that features some great classic Lithium Picnic photography. We're really glad to end all the bad blood between us so we can all start concentrating on creating great art instead of fighting over it.



Thanks to everyone that helped and supported, I think we've all learned from this experience and hope never to have to go through anything like it again.



We want to make it clear that we 100% have no hostilities towards SuicideGirls in anyway anymore, we all came to a really fair agreement over this dispute, and there were no bad people here, just mistakes and misunderstandings. If you've boycotted SG on our behalf, you helped us come to this agreement, so thank you but the battle is over, and we're all friends again.



To help offset our legal expenses, when you sign up with SuicideGirls, please use this affiliate code so that we can use the money to pay off our lawyers and focus on Apnea's modeling and my photography!

http://suicidegirls.com/join/QEROXG





Thanks,

Lithium Picnic and Apnea

Jun 15 08 09:11 am Link

Model

N i c o l e- Alter Ego

Posts: 4857

Miami Beach, Florida, US

smile

glad this is over for everyone involved.

borat

Jun 15 08 09:13 am Link

Photographer

Lost Viking

Posts: 1326

Ashville, Ohio, US

As long as you are happy.

Jun 15 08 09:14 am Link

Photographer

T H Taylor

Posts: 6862

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

Congrats and hope it turned out the way you wanted it too (Law suits rarely do but, if everyone comes out alive and sort of happy... That's a victory).

Continued success:
T.

Jun 15 08 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Kato PWC

Posts: 1257

Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada

cool smile

Jun 15 08 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Lily of the Valley

Posts: 1002

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Know how tedious lawsuits can be, glad for you it is over

Jun 15 08 09:15 am Link

Photographer

normad

Posts: 11372

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Lost Viking wrote:
As long as you are happy.

Jun 15 08 09:16 am Link

Photographer

Pat Thielen

Posts: 16800

Hastings, Minnesota, US

100% no hostilities towards $G?

After being sued, financially ruined (or nearly so), still have debts to lawyers... But everything is fine.

Hmm. Something smells rotten in the state or Oregon. But whatever. It's good that it's over and I wish you much success.

$G still sucks.

Jun 15 08 09:20 am Link

Photographer

J C ModeFotografie

Posts: 14718

Los Angeles, California, US

Pat Thielen wrote:
100% no hostilities towards $G?

After being sued, financially ruined (or nearly so), still have debts to lawyers... But everything is fine.

Hmm. Something smells rotten in the state or Oregon. But whatever. It's good that it's over and I wish you much success.

$G still sucks.

This is why I love that I've always shot for Embracing Life Girls (my "website")!

Jun 15 08 09:22 am Link

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LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

well Im very happy for you man, that must be a big relief, still how can anyone ever trust SG after the stunt they pulled but regardless its good it all worked out in the end

Jun 15 08 09:32 am Link

Photographer

Johnny Rocket Images

Posts: 631

Portsmouth, Virginia, US

You are easily my favorite photographer, and Apnea one of my favorite models. I commend you on the way you have handled this insane situation. And per your arrangement, I'm sure you "had" to say all of this. But know this, people do not forget!  $G has made their bed, long ago. They will never receive any support of any kind from me!
VIVA Le PICNIC !

Jun 15 08 09:32 am Link

Model

Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Congrats, Phil....


I'm glad this nightmare is finally over.

Jun 15 08 09:34 am Link

Photographer

Pat Thielen

Posts: 16800

Hastings, Minnesota, US

HOSTILE Photography wrote:
You are easily my favorite photographer, and Apnea one of my favorite models. I commend you on the way you have handled this insane situation. And per your arrangement, I'm sure you "had" to say all of this. But know this, people do not forget!  $G has made their bed, long ago. They will never receive any support of any kind from me!
VIVA Le PICNIC !

My thoughts as well. $G has chosen their own path and have to live with their decisions.  And anything anyone says positive about them I will either consider the words coerced or uttered out of sheer ignorance.

Jun 15 08 09:35 am Link

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Marco Aureliani

Posts: 719

Krabi, Southern, Thailand

Cool, who's next? big_smile

Jun 15 08 09:40 am Link

Photographer

Lumigraphics

Posts: 32780

Detroit, Michigan, US

Wow congratulations! The goal in any legal dispute should be an equitable settlement that both sides can live with.

For my own purposes, I wouldn't shoot for SG because I don't agree with their copyright policies, but to each their own.

Jun 15 08 09:52 am Link

Model

Janice Marie Foote

Posts: 11483

Yay Lithium Picnic and Apnea are free!!!
and there's other people out there with other reasons for not liking Suicide Girls.  Though they did get into E's top 10 "sexiest jobs to have".

Jun 15 08 09:54 am Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Congrats to LP, but don't go too easy on $G and perhaps encourage others to let their guard down.

Edit: Understood that Phil's statement may have been negotiated.

Jun 15 08 10:06 am Link

Photographer

nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

How many others are getting hosed that don't have
high profile exposure? Is it just you or is this a
new kinder gentler SG?

Jun 15 08 10:22 am Link

Photographer

GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Pat Thielen wrote:
100% no hostilities towards $G?

After being sued, financially ruined (or nearly so), still have debts to lawyers... But everything is fine.

Hmm. Something smells rotten in the state or Oregon. But whatever. It's good that it's over and I wish you much success.

$G still sucks.

Yeah there are lines to read between but as long as it doesn't keep costing him money he probably did okay by posting the canned message.  smile  Maybe it'll all go away now.

Jun 15 08 10:27 am Link

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Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

Suicide girls.

Hmmmm.

And people make fun of me for where I publish.

Hmmmm.

Jun 15 08 10:27 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

nwprophoto wrote:
How many others are getting hosed that don't
high profile exposure? Is it just you or is this a
new kinder gentler SG?

It would be great if they learned something from their improper treatment of LP.

I have my doubts.

For certain, others learned about the true nature of $G.

Jun 15 08 10:38 am Link

Photographer

Stacy Leigh

Posts: 3064

New York, New York, US

Dobias Fine Art Photo wrote:
Suicide girls.

Hmmmm.

And people make fun of me for where I publish.

Hmmmm.

You're published?

hmmmm.

Jun 15 08 10:44 am Link

Photographer

Emeritus

Posts: 22000

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Pat Thielen wrote:
anything anyone says positive about them I will either consider the words coerced or uttered out of sheer ignorance.

Phil is not ignorant.

Jun 15 08 11:04 am Link

Photographer

nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

Greg Cobb Photography wrote:
Yeah there are lines to read between but as long as it doesn't keep costing him money he probably did okay by posting the canned message.  smile  Maybe it'll all go away now.

It does read like a canned/lawyer "part of settlement" message.

Jun 15 08 11:04 am Link

Photographer

Johnny Rocket Images

Posts: 631

Portsmouth, Virginia, US

TXPhotog wrote:

Phil is not ignorant.

he was not saying that LP was ignorant, if you read all of this thread you would see he understands LP most likely had to say this per agreement with $G. The ignorant ones come through here every so often asking us as members what we think of $G as if they just came out of a cave or something. " ignorant to the situation". Don't be so quick to jump, I have not come across anyone who does not have a great respect for LP!

Jun 15 08 11:12 am Link

Photographer

Emeritus

Posts: 22000

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Pat Thielen wrote:
anything anyone says positive about them I will either consider the words coerced or uttered out of sheer ignorance.

TXPhotog wrote:
Phil is not ignorant.

HOSTILE Photography wrote:
he was not saying that LP was ignorant, if you read all of this thread you would see he understands LP most likely had to say this per agreement with $G. The ignorant ones come through here every so often asking us as members what we think of $G as if they just came out of a cave or something. " ignorant to the situation". Don't be so quick to jump, I have not come across anyone who does not have a great respect for LP!

Read what I said again, in context.  Don't be so quick to jump.

Jun 15 08 11:15 am Link

Model

N i c o l e- Alter Ego

Posts: 4857

Miami Beach, Florida, US

HOSTILE Photography wrote:
he was not saying that LP was ignorant, if you read all of this thread you would see he understands LP most likely had to say this per agreement with $G. The ignorant ones come through here every so often asking us as members what we think of $G as if they just came out of a cave or something. " ignorant to the situation". Don't be so quick to jump, I have not come across anyone who does not have a great respect for LP!

lol, you missed it too.

edit- TX beat me to it.

Jun 15 08 11:15 am Link

Model

N i c o l e- Alter Ego

Posts: 4857

Miami Beach, Florida, US

trigger finger, sorry for the dp.

Jun 15 08 11:16 am Link

Photographer

Dastardly Dave

Posts: 362

Carver, Massachusetts, US

I am heartily glad that this chapter in your lives is over. I have never met nicer people and you deserve all the success in the world. It was my sublime honor to work with both of you and look forward to continue enjoying the tremendous artistry and quality of the work you produce.

As far as the company, I am happy that the difficulties are behind you and if you are able to table your differences and move on, great. This must provide an object lesson for the rest of us to be hyper aware of the precarious nature of the confluence of art and commerce and the differing motives involved, some noble and some not.

Onward and upward!

Jun 15 08 11:17 am Link

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GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

N i c o l e-  Alter Ego wrote:

lol, you missed it too.

edit- TX beat me to it.

I'm looking for the airplane that's flying over his head. smile

Canned, one term of the lawsuit and/or agreement, etc etc.  It is what it is. smile

Jun 15 08 11:21 am Link

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Jeff Cohn

Posts: 3850

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

just glad that's over. hope it worked out well for you and apnea phil. continued support as always.

love jeff

Jun 15 08 11:26 am Link

Photographer

Amedeus

Posts: 1873

Stockton, California, US

We'll continue to support you and Apnea ... at least the money drain ended ... wounds heal ..

Jun 15 08 11:33 am Link

Photographer

'Monk

Posts: 1779

Denver, Colorado, US

borat
Awesome! I am happy to hear things are better my friend. Now keep kicking ass with your breathtaking work and let's see where you go from here smile

Jun 15 08 11:37 am Link

Photographer

Johnny Rocket Images

Posts: 631

Portsmouth, Virginia, US

TXPhotog wrote:

Pat Thielen wrote:
anything anyone says positive about them I will either consider the words coerced or uttered out of sheer ignorance.

TXPhotog wrote:
Phil is not ignorant.

Read what I said again, in context.  Don't be so quick to jump.

That's hilarious smile, I read it one way , then i read it another way.... It is so funny how easy it is to interpret things wrong on here, my apologies ! I sometimes hate these damn forums....

Jun 15 08 12:00 pm Link

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DeLuca Sol

Posts: 1136

Dallas, Texas, US

It must have been exhausting but nice to know so many people were standing behind you. It's tough to be the Rosa Parks in any situation. Glad you made it out to the other side.

Jun 15 08 12:07 pm Link

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K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

wtf?  I thought we had been trained over the last year or so to Hate SG?  Now the OP is spamming the Forums to get us to go join SG to go see his earlier work with them?

It makes me think this whole fundraising thing was just a carefully orchestrated piece of shit!

I'm pissed off.  They are either vile despicable people or they are not.  Just because the OP can make money again doesn't make them okay now.

Jun 15 08 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

LITHIUM PICNIC studio wrote:
To help offset our legal expenses, when you sign up with SuicideGirls, please use this affiliate code so that we can use the money to pay off our lawyers and focus on Apnea's modeling and my photography!

http://suicidegirls.com/join/QEROXG





Thanks,

Lithium Picnic and Apnea

What the F***?

Jun 15 08 12:36 pm Link

Makeup Artist

StephanieHart

Posts: 644

Wilmington, North Carolina, US

So incredibly happy that the hounds are being called off!!
Thank goodness.
Good luck to LP and Apnea for the future without SG litigation!




As for SG,doesn't matter how nice things worked out with this particular situation,I will still NEVER support/encourage that parasite.
Because aside from this,their business practices are still revolting.

Jun 15 08 12:36 pm Link

Photographer

Chick Habit

Posts: 12022

Columbus, Ohio, US

smile

glad this is over for everyone involved.

borat

Jun 15 08 12:37 pm Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

LeDeux Art wrote:
well Im very happy for you man, that must be a big relief, still how can anyone ever trust SG after the stunt they pulled but regardless its good it all worked out in the end

Because he can make our money if he trusts them.

Jun 15 08 12:40 pm Link