Forums > Model Colloquy > Disabled models, what do you think of this?

Model

Rachel Haywire

Posts: 969

San Francisco, California, US

There is always disability fetish/niche modeling which the disabled person can use to their advantage if they have a physical disability that is easy to spot. I find that kind of thing to be incredibly sexy.

I personally have Asperger's which makes it hard for me to pose without looking awkward and fucks with my fine motor coordination so I can't put on makeup... but if 100 shots are taken chances are there will be at least a couple good ones!

Let's also not forget the girl with Asperger's that was on America's Next Top Model.

As for mental disabilities... we've all got them. smile

Dec 06 08 11:15 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Indian Eyes wrote:
OP... there is no one 'disabled' in this world... but there are people who are 'differently-abled' ... my mother is differently-abled too and in many a case she has proven that she is more able at many things than many of us...

I'm traveling to Europe for a few weeks starting next week, I'll shout if I land in Netherlands and we'll shoot !

cheers !

sorry for my late reply, but: YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT!

Dec 16 08 02:00 pm Link

Model

VyL8 - Aubrey

Posts: 2369

Buffalo, New York, US

I know two photographers in Buffalo that would love to shoot you.

Dec 16 08 05:42 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

who? but I live in Holland...

Dec 19 08 09:34 am Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

so no more opinions about this subject??

Feb 07 09 08:41 am Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

well it has nothing to do with your dissability, it's more that photographers and other creatives look for a certain woman, and women that don't fit in that category are not only the ones with a disability, but also because they're too short or because they haven't got the right appearance or attitude. You could say women that aren't hired because of other things that being in a weelchair or being an amputee, or other things that affect their physical appearance, but women aren't hired for many more things than that, it's all the same case, they just don't fit in the category. That does not mean
'society' is 'stupid'. You wouldn't choose a person with bad condition for an olympic competition right ? And Marianne, I see plenty of photographs on your profile and you seem to be quite happy about your modelling, so I think it's kind of ungrateful to call society stupid.

Apr 16 09 02:51 pm Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

Michele Fotografie wrote:
You could say women that aren't hired because of other things that being in a weelchair or being an amputee, or..

that = than

Apr 16 09 02:52 pm Link

Model

Keilahri

Posts: 415

New York, New York, US

Does anyone but me realize this thread was started in august of 08?

Apr 17 09 01:26 am Link

Model

Miki Jotalee

Posts: 104

Southend-on-Sea, England, United Kingdom

Can I be on the list of disabled models please? Will join the facebook group when I'm at home as they've blocked FB in the office (but thankfully not MM....)

Apr 17 09 04:54 am Link

Photographer

MEK Photography

Posts: 6571

Westminster, Maryland, US

Keilah Lashae wrote:
Does anyone but me realize this thread was started in august of 08?

Some threads are ok to bump, like this one.  Some are not.

Apr 17 09 04:56 am Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

MEK Photography wrote:

Some threads are ok to bump, like this one.  Some are not.

What do you mean with that?

May 03 09 07:58 am Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Michele Fotografie wrote:
well it has nothing to do with your dissability, it's more that photographers and other creatives look for a certain woman, and women that don't fit in that category are not only the ones with a disability, but also because they're too short or because they haven't got the right appearance or attitude. You could say women that aren't hired because of other things that being in a weelchair or being an amputee, or other things that affect their physical appearance, but women aren't hired for many more things than that, it's all the same case, they just don't fit in the category. That does not mean
'society' is 'stupid'. You wouldn't choose a person with bad condition for an olympic competition right ? And Marianne, I see plenty of photographs on your profile and you seem to be quite happy about your modelling, so I think it's kind of ungrateful to call society stupid.

I'm not ungrateful, i just think that society must be more openminded. And yes, I'm happy with my modelling, but I would love to do more!

May 03 09 08:01 am Link

Model

Michelle Pingu

Posts: 164

Falkirk, Scotland, United Kingdom

Good for you for doing your thing smile
I was going to link to the girl who won Britains Missing Top Model, which was mentioned earlier, but her agency has shut down I hope she finds a new one.
I think there should be more disabled models, but the industry wont accept anyhting outside of their norm so I dont know if it will happen.

May 03 09 12:39 pm Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

Marianne -
sure I should like things in my life to be different too but you know, we call that 'that's life'. I think you are ungrateful by saying the society you are in is 'stupid' but you are taking advantage of it by working with photographers for your own joy.
NOT everyone can be a model. It is NOT true that everybody except DISABLED people can be a model, it's about wheether you fit into the category. You guys should stop diverting yourself from 'normal' (ie fully functioning) people by calling 'society stupid'.
There are photographers who have shot only disabled people (like people with scars from breast cancer, or Erwin Olaf who has done a series on kids with Down's syndrome), and there are photographers who even shoot dead people (Joel Peter-Witkin). You just have to fit into the concept.

Think before you speak - especially you Marianne, that kind of attitude won't get you lots of shoots.

May 03 09 01:51 pm Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

PS
There is no such thing as 'differently abled'. The first thing at solving your problems is acknowledging you HAVE a problem. And then you have to transform the problem into a challenge ( ie Think Positive, being able to see a future) and take the challenge.
So people who do not have a leg ARE disabled, it's the truth. They cannot do the same and as much as people who have two healthy legs. That's what disabled is all about. It is not about dependancy or being 'weak' ; it just means you have something a healthy person would or wouldn't have, depends on the condition.

And do not say I do not know where I am talking about ; I am the first person to acknowledge people with a disability are as human as we all are and are equal, I am not a Hitler. I have manic depressions myself which makes me disabled too, it is not for nothing called a 'mental disease'.

May 03 09 02:04 pm Link

Photographer

Merlyn Magic Photo

Posts: 4361

Long Beach, California, US

Miss Marianna wrote:
What do you mean with that?

From the rules page:

(28) Bump old topics for no reason: And we will bump you to the brig.  (You like that?   Huh? That was clever, huh?)





My interpretation, not officially endorsed by MM:

This one might be OK as you, the original poster, are still active, and the bumps add to the discussion. Other older threads sometimes get bumped by a post that just says something like "I agree" so that would not be a valid bump.

May 03 09 02:10 pm Link

Photographer

FullmersPhoto

Posts: 3

PASO ROBLES, California, US

I have worked with "special needs" people for over 20yrs. I am no longer amazed at what they can do when they set their mind to it, only at what they find to do.
I allready have a shoot in the works with CC Marie when she finishes her latest tats and is ready. I was thrilled to find her because she fits in with a series I am working on, having to do with tats and piercings. Her attitude and everything else is just a bonus.

May 03 09 02:35 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Michele Fotografie wrote:
Marianne -
sure I should like things in my life to be different too but you know, we call that 'that's life'. I think you are ungrateful by saying the society you are in is 'stupid' but you are taking advantage of it by working with photographers for your own joy.
NOT everyone can be a model. It is NOT true that everybody except DISABLED people can be a model, it's about wheether you fit into the category. You guys should stop diverting yourself from 'normal' (ie fully functioning) people by calling 'society stupid'.
There are photographers who have shot only disabled people (like people with scars from breast cancer, or Erwin Olaf who has done a series on kids with Down's syndrome), and there are photographers who even shoot dead people (Joel Peter-Witkin). You just have to fit into the concept.

Think before you speak - especially you Marianne, that kind of attitude won't get you lots of shoots.

My attitude won't get me lots of shoots?????? I already did 19! You just don't understand what I mean...

May 03 09 02:47 pm Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

Great for you!
Go girl, I have nothing personal against you. But be hounest ; maybe
you should think twice before telling a photographer the artworld isn't
openminded enough for you and that society is stupid!
all i'm saying is watch your words regardless of how many shoots you've done.

And maybe you should think about what I said about those photographers who did shoots with all sorts of disabled people and even dead people ; maybe people do not want certain females because their looks don't fit, not because they are disabled. As you see a disability is even considered a good thing worthy of making art of since those photographers Ive mentioned are most certainly one of the world's most famous and respected ones.

May 03 09 04:25 pm Link

Photographer

Nancy Catherine Walker

Posts: 1809

MASHANTUCKET, Connecticut, US

I confess to not reading all 5 pages before posting so if this came up before then oh well.

There was an agency in the UK called UGLY. I don't know if they still are in operation or not. All of their models were not "model types". They specialized in deformed faces, little people and other "people of character". You've seen several of them but just don't realize it. There models were very popular on humorous greeting cards some time ago.

May 03 09 05:21 pm Link

Photographer

Ricardo Sevilla

Posts: 4628

Miami, Florida, US

If you were in Miami, i'd shoot you.

-Ricardo S.

May 03 09 05:27 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Michele Fotografie wrote:
Great for you!
Go girl, I have nothing personal against you. But be hounest ; maybe
you should think twice before telling a photographer the artworld isn't
openminded enough for you and that society is stupid!
all i'm saying is watch your words regardless of how many shoots you've done.

And maybe you should think about what I said about those photographers who did shoots with all sorts of disabled people and even dead people ; maybe people do not want certain females because their looks don't fit, not because they are disabled. As you see a disability is even considered a good thing worthy of making art of since those photographers Ive mentioned are most certainly one of the world's most famous and respected ones.

I get your point! Would you like to do a shoot in the future maybe?

May 04 09 01:31 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
If you were in Miami, i'd shoot you.

-Ricardo S.

who knows...

May 04 09 02:40 pm Link

Photographer

MEK Photography

Posts: 6571

Westminster, Maryland, US

Miss Marianna wrote:

What do you mean with that?

I mean that unlike some of the other threads that get bumped that are essentially worthless, threads like this one are important to keep active.  Sorry if there was confusion.

May 04 09 02:55 pm Link

Photographer

Michele Sluijters

Posts: 6

I am sorry but I am not one of those photographers I talked about earlier. Good luck in the future and thanks for the nice comments.

May 08 09 04:30 pm Link

Photographer

WH Pictures

Posts: 71

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

mariana,

this guy is clearly disabled
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080519/00/483108b818aca.jpg

but, he got few gigs in hollywood. true, that those roles are no starring roles, but hey it's a start, right?

May 08 09 04:52 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Michele Sluijters wrote:
I am sorry but I am not one of those photographers I talked about earlier. Good luck in the future and thanks for the nice comments.

you're not one of which photographers???

May 09 09 02:43 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

WH Pictures wrote:
mariana,

this guy is clearly disabled
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080519/00/483108b818aca.jpg

but, he got few gigs in hollywood. true, that those roles are no starring roles, but hey it's a start, right?

it's great!

May 09 09 02:43 pm Link

Model

Ossuary

Posts: 1671

San Francisco, California, US

I have the same thing to say to everyone, regardless of whether they have a disability. If you can do what you need to do to succeed and get what you want, then do it. Anyone who can't handle that can suck on it.

May 09 09 05:20 pm Link

Photographer

bm bradley

Posts: 213

STUDIO CITY, California, US

Miss Marianna wrote:
Me as a disabled model is curious about the opinion from the members of Model Mayhem about this... Let's discuss this subject!

well to be honest about it models typically represent a target market or audience. not so sure the numbers are there to keep you working.

May 09 09 06:52 pm Link

Photographer

Jesse Hughes

Posts: 30

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Bit hard to do a range of poses if you are missing legs and arms

May 09 09 08:37 pm Link

Photographer

Mark

Posts: 2977

New York, New York, US

Miss Marianna wrote:
I'm not ungrateful, i just think that society must be more openminded. And yes, I'm happy with my modelling, but I would love to do more!

No no no

Those with such physical limitations need to be more closed minded.  Sorry your body isnt better because you have become unable to walk or use a limb- in the animal world you would be lunch by now.  Your body is not more beautiful becuase your limbs have atrophied.  Perhaps in the fetish world it is ok or better but this is a beauty focussed industry for the most part.

It's like the golf guy that couldnt walk so he wanted to play on the PGA tourny and use a golf cart where the other players had to walk 5 miles a day- sorry that's not fair either.

use the brain more and the body less

May 09 09 08:47 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Mark wrote:

No no no

Those with such physical limitations need to be more closed minded.  Sorry your body isnt better because you have become unable to walk or use a limb- in the animal world you would be lunch by now.  Your body is not more beautiful becuase your limbs have atrophied.  Perhaps in the fetish world it is ok or better but this is a beauty focussed industry for the most part.

It's like the golf guy that couldnt walk so he wanted to play on the PGA tourny and use a golf cart where the other players had to walk 5 miles a day- sorry that's not fair either.

use the brain more and the body less

i am who i am and i don't want to be a catwalk or fashionmodel, but my pictures are beautiful and i am beautiful and so i don't have to be more closed minded. this discussion is not about if i'm beautiful or not, it's about if disabled people can model and yes they can!

May 16 09 03:37 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Ossuary wrote:
I have the same thing to say to everyone, regardless of whether they have a disability. If you can do what you need to do to succeed and get what you want, then do it. Anyone who can't handle that can suck on it.

YEAH!

May 16 09 03:38 pm Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

if nobody is posting here anymore, please close this topic!

Sep 17 09 06:33 am Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Miss Marianna wrote:
if nobody is posting here anymore, please close this topic!

It was practically closed 'till you just bumped it. wink

And lots of newbs have signed up on the site since the last post. They might be interested in it and want to post. smile

Sep 17 09 06:37 am Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

sorry and yes, you're right!

Sep 17 09 07:14 am Link

Photographer

The Alternative Image

Posts: 4129

London, England, United Kingdom

I did a shoot with Lizzie who is in a wheelchair, lovely girl and what fun this shoot was, it also changed my veiw on disabled people and my respect for them, she put a imense effort into this shoot.

Lissie wanted a darker theme for her port so this is what I came up with, pics from her port.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id … p_id=68675

The best bit was going down the high steet to get to the location and seeing peoples faces.

Sep 17 09 07:24 am Link

Model

Miss Marianna

Posts: 202

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

looks great! she's a nice girl, i have her on facebook!

Sep 17 09 07:32 am Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10747

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Hey Marianne,

I missed this the first time round (and the second and third).  That's how random this place is.  Unless you know something exists you won't see it if it's not on the top of the forum or you go looking in that forum.  Good work smile


p.s.  say hi to ~*Kirsten*~ and tell her to get her @$$ on MSN sometimes.  She says she knows everyone in your town so she must know you big_smile

Sep 17 09 07:43 am Link