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K E E L I N G
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Peoria, Illinois, US


Roustan wrote:

I wonder if she's responsible for you doing what you do wink

LoL, it was the 60's and she used to wear a tiny pair of cutoff blue jeans that were all ripped up.  I still tell every model I shoot with to bring a pair of ripped faded jeans!  lol

Jan 20 09 09:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lucine
Posts: 1,520
Northwest, North Carolina, US


Chris Keeling wrote:

They really had that girl next door look for me......Linda Beatty from 1976 was my next door neighbor and my babysitter when I was 6 years old and she was 14.

Linda Beatty

Her centerfold was shot by MM's own Ken Marcus!

From the Ville!

Jan 20 09 09:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alisyn Carliene
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San Bernardino, California, US


i think i would have wanted to be in playboy in the 70's... it seemed super classy and daring. lol.
Jan 20 09 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
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Salinas, California, US


I finally found out what Playboy model Donna Michelle looked like!

Donna Michelle (18+ 'cuz of the one boob showing)

She bacame Playmate of the 1964 Playmate of the Year.

http://www.cardcow.com/images/playboy-may-1964-cover-donna-michelle-risque-nude-playboy-28977.jpg

As December '63 centerfold, she was photographed at age 17 and still the youngest bunny to appear as a Playboy centerfold to this day.  She was born on December 8, 1945, in Los Angeles, Calif. and died of a heart attack at age 58 on April 9, 2004, in Ukiah, Calif.

I was always interested because I know of a younger model whose career I've followed that also goes by the name Donna Michelle.

I had a major crush on this Playmate!

Deana Baker  She is breath taking to me!

One thing I can't stand about today's "model" images in magazines is the over use of photoshop when used to eliminate all body hair, freckles and moles.  I find women with body hair, freckles and moles more real and sexy!
Jan 20 09 09:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vintagevista
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Sun City, California, US


With a name like mine - Of course I'd have to agree that the 70's rocked for Playboy.  There was a very distinct style and storytelling capacity to a lot of their images.

The current stuff is plastic and lifeless - you don't even have to look at the pictures to know what they will "look Like"  There's just no sense that the girls are all that interesting - or even human.

Negatives - in about 72, the barrier went down for showing pubic hair - and by 74 - you couldn't see the trees because of the jungle.  That was not good.

Positives - a lasting love of tan lines - Seriously - I want to recreate a vintage 70's shoot with those same tan lines - (so, when a model comes online, crying about having terrible tan lines and nobody wants to work with her - borat)

VintageVista
Jan 20 09 10:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
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tereyn wrote:
i think i would have wanted to be in playboy in the 70's... it seemed super classy and daring. lol.

Hey Tereyn, you could still do a "vintage" shoot in the 70's Playboy style, and you'd totally ROCK it!

Jan 20 09 10:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Justin
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Vintagevista wrote:
Negatives - in about 72, the barrier went down for showing pubic hair - and by 74 - you couldn't see the trees because of the jungle.  That was not good.

In January 1970, I think it was, pubic hair was fully shown. Before that, there had been hints and peeks. The barrier continued to crash after that. A few years later, Penthouse turned the world pink, and Playboy had to play follow the leader to them.

Jan 20 09 10:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vintagevista
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Justin wrote:
In January 1970, I think it was, pubic hair was fully shown. Before that, there had been hints and peeks. The barrier continued to crash after that. A few years later, Penthouse turned the world pink, and Playboy had to play follow the leader to them.

We may both be right - There were hints etc. before 1972 - I went and checked - and the first images of full frontal nudes were of Paula Kelly in Aug of 1969. (She also played one of the public defenders on the sitcom "night Court")

The first centerfold so posed was in 1972 -

VintageVista

Jan 20 09 10:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bon voyage
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Los Angeles, California, US


OMG I want this outfit so bad!

(18+...duh) http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … n_Wong.jpg

But ya know...with a shirt to go with it...or something.  And not so high-waisted with that skirt.  And maybe a lighter hand with the hair styling...but other than that, I would totally rock this.  I luvvvv it
Jan 20 09 10:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bon voyage
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Los Angeles, California, US


I'm in love with this girl's face!

(m) http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … Rennie.jpg
Jan 20 09 10:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Nemeth
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Dearborn, Michigan, US


B R E E D L O V E wrote:
I was going through some old Playboy photos via a google image search and I really like the 1970's work the best. Sometimes the misty soft focus was a little much but the models were gorgeous and real. In my humble opinion they really had that girl next door look much more than the later gals.

I should go through my photos of models that I shot in the 70s and scan them.  smile

Jan 20 09 11:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Merlinpix
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Kera Maskera wrote:
"It's like masturbating in a time machine." -Step Brothers

Ah, memories of my youth!

Jan 21 09 12:26 am  Link  Quote 
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K E E L I N G
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Peoria, Illinois, US


Lucine wrote:

From the Ville!

She lived in Paducah, Kentucky when she was my babysitter.  smile

Jan 21 09 12:35 am  Link  Quote 
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B R E E D L O V E
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Forks, Washington, US


Lawrence Guy wrote:
Here's a nice link: (18+)  http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … aymate.htm

I found Miss march 1964 the month and year of my birth. smile  Here she is.

Nancy Scott  http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … _Scott.jpg

Jan 21 09 12:40 am  Link  Quote 
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sospix
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Orlando, Florida, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:

You still subscribing?  yikes   I gave up on Playboy years ago!  Now I just pick up old copies for cheap or even free at garage sales and such!

It was a gift from my niece  .  .  .  how's that for thoughtful  .  .  .  wink

SOS

Jan 21 09 08:21 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
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Billings, Montana, US


Terry, I think you just like Bush.

*although this was a fairly inventive way to get that point across*
Jan 21 09 08:32 am  Link  Quote 
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brown-eyes
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Chino, California, US


Merrie Ninja Swain wrote:
I'm in love with this girl's face!

(m) http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … Rennie.jpg

she is beautifull!!!! My husband actullay has that issuse he got lucky and his grandpa gave him his old playboys he has atleast 40

Jan 21 09 08:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Jan 21 09 04:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mz Nova
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Portland, Oregon, US


Its amazing to look at the covers, even, lined up in a chronological row and see the change. It's not good stuff now...

But my EX boyfriend likes that kind of stuff over the older. Harder core, the better.
Jan 21 09 04:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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csjacksonphotography
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Chicago, Illinois, US


Lawrence Guy wrote:
Here's a nice link: (18+)  http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … aymate.htm

EDIT: and my all-time favorite, Fran Gerard: (18+) http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … Gerard.jpg  (Damn the torpedoes!)

EDIT EDIT: and also an eye-grabber, Janet Lupo: (18+) http://www.lolafox.org/Anni70/VM18/VM18 … t_Lupo.jpg

janet lupo is the best Playmate of all time....

Jan 21 09 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Matt K Photography
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I just wish Id found this thread before I started my own.  Im in violent agreement with everything you said.

Matt


B R E E D L O V E wrote:
I was going through some old Playboy photos via a google image search and I really like the 1970's work the best. Sometimes the misty soft focus was a little much but the models were gorgeous and real. In my humble opinion they really had that girl next door look much more than the later gals.

Jan 25 09 08:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jan 25 09 08:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Eric J Erk
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Baltimore, Maryland, US


B R E E D L O V E wrote:
I was going through some old Playboy photos via a google image search and I really like the 1970's work the best. Sometimes the misty soft focus was a little much but the models were gorgeous and real. In my humble opinion they really had that girl next door look much more than the later gals.

Ya know, I was watching some old Christy Canyon and Barbara Dare flicks and thinking the same thing!!

Jan 25 09 09:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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BigA-LTL-The FAB Page
Posts: 2,255
Shenandoah, Texas, US


B R E E D L O V E wrote:
I was going through some old Playboy photos via a google image search and I really like the 1970's work the best. Sometimes the misty soft focus was a little much but the models were gorgeous and real. In my humble opinion they really had that girl next door look much more than the later gals.

Yeah, I agree.  Only thing that's weird about them is they have like more hair down thurrr than I do on my other and and therefore that makes me insecure about my lower head because I've never had that much hair down thurrr in my life and it makes me question my womanhood since my thingy looks like a first grader compared to 70's ladies lol.  But they do look much more natural than 2000's Playboy models.

Jan 25 09 10:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shon D.- Femme
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Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


Ariana Diabla wrote:

Actually, according to Playboy Forum members, they actually cant stand the way the newer photos look so over done.

Especially cyber girl photos, they are blasted out, and over contrasted and they are an orangey colour.

They much prefer the classic style.

I'd wager that that is because most of the models are an orangey color.

Jan 25 09 10:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shenandoah, Texas, US


Ariana Diabla wrote:
I do agree.

Im actually a member of the cyberclub and the message boards, and I am able to go through hundreds of photos in the threads, and its amazing to see the difference in the photos/imagery.

Now allthe photos are blasted out in exposure, and PSed to hell and back. The older photos from the 70's, 80's and even early 90's there was such a "realness" about it, which made it very appealing.

Yeah it's kinda funny how with technology we've pushed photography to inspire perfection to the point of fantasy in our eyes and now it's like people are so used to that and getting so sick of it that it's the simple images that really interest them now.

Jan 25 09 10:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
Reality just flies in the face of most people's expectations or desires when it comes to glamour. The same is unfortunately true with fashion, although thankfully fashion occasionally remembers that fantasy is rooted and gathers power from truth and reality. Glamour (which is in large part an extension and consequence of celebrity-worship) has pretty much forgotten that entirely, and I won't ever be interested until it begins to remember that again. But nobody making it really seems interested, and their public isn't interested, either. They just want to worship and trash, worship and trash. (We're a TV and internet culture, and... ugh...)

In other words, it's not just the fault of "Playboy" or "the industry" alone. The audience is equally at fault for this.

^^^Well said!

Jan 25 09 10:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
Best thing I think I've ever seen in Playboy? A Helmut Newton pictorial of I think Joan Severance. Head-and-shoulders above anything I've ever seen them publish in any edition, of any vintage. And totally apart from the rest of their schlock, of a model who was far more beautiful (and captivating!) than any Playmate I've ever seen.

What about http://www.celebs-hookers.com/Gabrielle_Reece/Gabrielle_Reece7.jpg??

Jan 25 09 10:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steve Mills
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I certainly admired the styles of Arnie Freytag and Mario Casilli. When the magazine started chasing Penthouse, instead of leading the pack, I stopped reading it.
Jan 25 09 10:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steve Mills wrote:
I certainly admired the styles of Arnie Freytag and Mario Casilli. When the magazine started chasing Penthouse, instead of leading the pack, I stopped reading it.

What's the difference btwn the two magazines?

Jan 25 09 10:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steve Mills
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BigA-LTL-The FAB Page wrote:
What's the difference btwn the two magazines?

The original difference was Penthouse showed pubic hair when Playboy was still too timid. After a short period of years, there was virtually no difference remaining regarding what they would show, except that Penthouse still over-used soft focus on just about all it's shots.

Google pubic hair... there is little of it left in the world. wink

Jan 25 09 10:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steve Mills wrote:

The original difference was Penthouse showed pubic hair when Playboy was still too timid. After a short period of years, there was virtually no difference remaining regarding what they would show, except that Penthouse still over-used soft focus on just about all it's shots.

Ah.  I always thought it was the 'openness' btwn them like that Playboy did more implied type stuff and Penthouse did more spread eagle coming out of a cake Larry Flynt type stuff lol.

Jan 25 09 10:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steve Mills wrote:

The original difference was Penthouse showed pubic hair when Playboy was still too timid. After a short period of years, there was virtually no difference remaining regarding what they would show, except that Penthouse still over-used soft focus on just about all it's shots.

Google pubic hair... there is little of it left in the world. wink

I think I'm gonna do like Cartman and go buy me some pubes cuz mine suck at growing.  big_smile

Jan 25 09 10:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kevin Stenhouse
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Calgary, Alberta, Canada


La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
Best thing I think I've ever seen in Playboy? A Helmut Newton pictorial of I think Joan Severance. Head-and-shoulders above anything I've ever seen them publish in any edition, of any vintage. And totally apart from the rest of their schlock, of a model who was far more beautiful (and captivating!) than any Playmate I've ever seen.

I don't remember that one but I do have the Newton/Natasha Kinski issue.

18+
http://www.staleywise.com/collection/ne … nski_b.jpg

Jan 25 09 10:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ava des Mortes
Posts: 198
Macon, Georgia, US


Vintage Playboy is one of my biggest influences in modeling. I found a bunch of them when I was younger and it completely inspired me to no end. I love how curvy the girls were pre-1970s.
Jan 25 09 11:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Strong
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada


The first Playboy I ever saw featured Carol Vitale as the centerfold.  That was way back in 1974.   She committed suicide a few years ago.
Jan 26 09 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Kristy Corell
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Tucson, Arizona, US


I love old Playboy. Each girl had her own unique look and appeal. Nowadays, all the girls look like a bunch of clones. Playboy nowadays is so damned boring I won't even pick up an issue if I see one laying around. I mean, to each their own but doesn't the same 5'2" blonde, long layered hair, standard boob job and spray tan washed, rinsed and repeated get boring???? I sometimes wonder about a secret clone factory or test tube lab at the Playboy mansion.......

I guess the magazine, like alot of things, has grown and evolved to appeal to the sheep-minded modern consumer.

The 50th and 55th anniversary issues were great....they did a Playmate review in each one of some of the greats from the 50's-90's.

I read an article about how Hugh Hefner's sons plan to take over Playboy when he passes away. They say they want to bring bak the uniqueness and variety of the 50's-70's. Well see how it all transpires.
Jan 26 09 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Big A-Larger Than Life
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The Woodlands, Texas, US


Christi I wrote:
I love old Playboy. Each girl had her own unique look and appeal. Nowadays, all the girls look like a bunch of clones. Playboy nowadays is so damned boring I won't even pick up an issue if I see one laying around. I mean, to each their own but doesn't the same 5'2" blonde, long layered hair, standard boob job and spray tan washed, rinsed and repeated get boring???? I sometimes wonder about a secret clone factory or test tube lab at the Playboy mansion.......

I guess the magazine, like alot of things, has grown and evolved to appeal to the sheep-minded modern consumer.

The 50th and 55th anniversary issues were great....they did a Playmate review in each one of some of the greats from the 50's-90's.

I read an article about how Hugh Hefner's sons plan to take over Playboy when he passes away. They say they want to bring bak the uniqueness and variety of the 50's-70's. Well see how it all transpires.

That's why you should get the issue with Gabbs in it.  No 5 foot midgets, just a 6'3" goddess.  big_smile

Jan 26 09 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dawn Aimee
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La Porte, Indiana, US


B R E E D L O V E wrote:
I was going through some old Playboy photos via a google image search and I really like the 1970's work the best. Sometimes the misty soft focus was a little much but the models were gorgeous and real. In my humble opinion they really had that girl next door look much more than the later gals.

I found a website with all the archived centerfolds, and the boys and I looked through them. I agree.

Jan 26 09 01:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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sospix
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Orlando, Florida, US


Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:

That's why you should get the issue with Gabbs in it.  No 5 foot midgets, just a 6'3" goddess.  big_smile

You sound as though you may be a tad biased  .  .  .  wink

SOS

Jan 26 09 01:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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