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todas_las_caras
Posts: 699
San Francisco, California, US
There's plenty of unglamorous nude models. Something for everyone I guess.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Extreme Body Art wrote: (and no.. I don't have an ear fetish) I do...licks**
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Garry k
Posts: 30129
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
Oh GOD! Did you hear what she said about European magazines? And I have seen MANY if not EVERY supermodel from the 90s nude. IN PRINT. Hey we both know that being in print does not always mean a model is being paid or paid well ... ie editorials versus ( the real money ) campaigns ...,
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Veronica Marie wrote:
I think that the more comfortable a model is with or without her clothes on will help in their favor, its about finding the right balance, spiritually and mentally. I began nude modeling a few years into modeling, fell in LOVE with it, and was trying to only do it for only $$ and rely on that for income only... until I realized thats not all I want out of it. I wasn't getting the whole benefit of enjoyment thinking that way. So I stopped for awhile. Found my passion, love, for the art all over again. It's all about making the right choices for yourself: photographers, opportunities, exposure and what kind. If you are excited of what's to become then you know you are doing something right. That's what it all boils down to. Learning how to be in front of the lens without clothes on for starters was one hell of an experience I can't help but Never forget. You have to take into account your passion, love (hobbyist) for the art VS the amount of money paid to make art. What wins? for me the right balance of the two, many don't seem to know how to do that. sorry i went way off course here and got carried away. Explains a lot. But all I heard was you have nakeds to share with JessicaV Sent web size to [email protected] LOL!!!
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Alisyn Carliene
Posts: 11756
San Bernardino, California, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
LOL Sucker every minute I guess. I'm sure modeling is not all you do anymore (if ever) at 34, and, one more point that to be a non nude glamour model is to seal your fate at never being a full time model. I'm full on your food. And I just threw it up. wow that was uncalled for.
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Garry k wrote:
thats just plain silly ... the real ie paying work like fashion , accessories and perfumes do not feature real nudity ....maybe some implied or ( if you live in France ) a bare breast or buttock There are fashion models like Coco Rocha who have made millions and not shown anything private ... and who really pays fashion models serious money for nude photos ....well maybe if you are a top fashion model - Playboy might - but once they are gone then who ? Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this? Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Garry k wrote: Hey we both know that being in print does not always mean a model is being paid or paid well ... ie editorials versus ( the real money ) campaigns ..., I'm talking Cindy Crawford, Claudia Schiffer, Elle McPherson, Cameron Diez.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
tereyn wrote:
wow that was uncalled for. Old news.
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
Cuica Cafezinho wrote: Out of line like calling somebody a bitch maybe? I dunno. (totally unrelated... Has anyone ever used "then" three times in the same sentence before? Wait, what? Did I just called that a sentence?) Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad. I called them like I see them.
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V Marie
Posts: 903
Denver, Colorado, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
I do...licks** hehe!!
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote: Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this? Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi Or a million other top tier shooters we could list. Sante D'Orazio, Patrick Demarchelier People who belittle nudity in the REAL industry or the online network of crazies we are use to have no idea the sorts of images are in world wide print.
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Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
LT Smash wrote:
Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this? Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi Well what do I know about fashion anyway... my two genres I work in are Glamor and Artistic... (Because I work with nudes.. um.. duh) But... This isn't a debate about fashion... Let's start another thread for that
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Extreme Body Art wrote: Well what do I know about fashion anyway... my two genres I work in are Glamor and Artistic... (Because I work with nudes.. um.. duh) But... This isn't a debate about fashion... Let's start another thread for that There is one going today where some fuckhead called fashion nude an oxymoron. He was the moron.
Body Painter
Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
I do...licks** If I did... hers would would top the chart... but, I'll just stick with the... "Nice Ears" bit
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Garry k
Posts: 30129
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
LT Smash wrote: Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this? Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ... My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ? there is work and then there is Work
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad. I called them like I see them. Since when did speaking more languages make up for poor grammar in one of them? Bilingual people are now more educated than those of us who speak one language properly?
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Garry k wrote:
Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ... My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ? They do. Why don't you look at the catalog for bebe? Guess what? There's nudity.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Garry k wrote: Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ... My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ? They are BEYOND Lancome or Yves Saint Laurent. They have done it all and don't need any more money... they work for PR, not money. They work and pose to keep up their image for the BIGGG money they will make later on when they might need another 5 million
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Quay Lude
Posts: 6386
Madison, Wisconsin, US
KillerShotz Photography wrote: Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad. I called them like I see them. Ish Maria! English is my second language. I don't always do well with it but I try to be careful when posting in an English speaking forum. Killah, dig.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Garry k wrote: there is work and then there is Work and then there is WOrk and then there is WORk and then there is WORK!
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote:
They do. Why don't you look at the catalog for bebe? Guess what? There's nudity. and it is so great. so so so so great.
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Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote: and then there is WOrk and then there is WORk and then there is WORK! I prefer WORK! over work any day... dunno.. what about you?
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote: Since when did speaking more languages make up for poor grammar in one of them? Bilingual people are now more educated than those of us who speak one language properly? Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect. I will tell you something I'm problably better at it then most Americans themeselves.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote: And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this? And you feel renewed and inspired, don't you?
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Aaron Pawlak
Posts: 2850
New York, New York, US
Naked; GOOD. Not naked: not as good, unless you are advertising clothing. zzzz good night.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect. Don't be a sidekick mod and call me out for your assessments of my posts. Junior staff.
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
And you feel renewed and inspired, don't you? Dude, I feel like totally refreshed. I love working with those types of people. We just talk art and life all day. I'm ready to start shooting again all the time
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Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect. YES! PERFECTION DAMMIT!... Anything less is uncalled for
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
AaronPawlak wrote: Naked; GOOD. Not naked: not as good, unless you are advertising clothing. zzzz good night. Even then I like a little tit with my jeans!!
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
Don't be a sidekick mod and call me out for your assessments of my posts. Junior staff.
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Garry k
Posts: 30129
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote: They are BEYOND Lancome or Yves Saint Laurent. They have done it all and don't need any more money... they work for PR, not money. They work and pose to keep up their image for the BIGGG money they will make later on when they might need another 5 million Some would say even that some of these former top models do it - just to stay in the limelight becuase yes they have made enuf coin through their other Work
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Skydancer Photos
Posts: 22196
Santa Cruz, California, US
Moderator Warning!
Let's keep this civil and on topic, eh?
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote:
Dude, I feel like totally refreshed. I love working with those types of people. We just talk art and life all day. I'm ready to start shooting again all the time I know. It is great to see a fresh perspective as to what the real industry is doing. They are, so needed for us, to wake our glamour asses up as to what is out there.
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Skydancer wrote: Let's keep this civil and on topic, eh? Fo Shizzle
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
I know. It is great to see a fresh perspective as to what the real industry is doing. They are, so needed for us, to wake our glamour asses up as to what is out there. I'm actually pondering going to agencies and seeing if I can get signed for beauty work
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote: I'm actually pondering going to agencies and seeing if I can get signed for beauty work Philipe saw it in you. Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something. I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic.
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
Philipe saw it in you. Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something. I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic. When do we ever stay on topic?
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Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
Philipe saw it in you. Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something. I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic. Because I think it's been debated to death... there's nothing left to say about it... But... You could always go to OT and post a "Shoot the Breeze" Thread to just talk about how this thread was just totally awesome and how glamor was totally about getting naked for the camera and junk .
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
LT Smash wrote:
When do we ever stay on topic? He just told us we have to stay on topic. So my on topic thought to you is... how big is your couch because Danny is coming with me to NY? LOL
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Jessica Vaugn
Posts: 7328
Los Angeles, California, US
Extreme Body Art wrote:
Because I think it's been debated to death... there's nothing left to say about it... But... You could always go to OT and post a "Shoot the Breeze" Thread to just talk about how this thread was just totally awesome and how glamor was totally about getting naked for the camera and junk . Glamour is the shit. In fact, I can't decide weather I like booty or boobie more.
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