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Photographer

todas_las_caras

Posts: 699

San Francisco, California, US

There's plenty of unglamorous nude models. Something for everyone I guess.

Sep 26 09 10:03 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Extreme Body Art wrote:
(and no.. I don't have an ear fetish)

I do...licks**

Sep 26 09 10:04 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

Oh GOD! Did you hear what she said about European magazines? And I have seen MANY if not EVERY supermodel from the 90s nude. IN PRINT.

Hey we both know that being in print does not always mean a model is being paid or paid well ... ie editorials versus ( the real money ) campaigns ...,

Sep 26 09 10:04 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Veronica Marie wrote:

I think that the more comfortable a model is with or without her clothes on will help in their favor, its about finding the right balance, spiritually and mentally. I began nude modeling a few years into modeling, fell in LOVE with it, and was trying to only do it for only $$ and rely on that for income only... until I realized thats not all I want out of it. I wasn't getting the whole benefit of enjoyment thinking that way. So I stopped for awhile. Found my passion, love, for the art all over again. It's all about making the right choices for yourself: photographers, opportunities, exposure and what kind. If you are excited of what's to become then you know you are doing something right. That's what it all boils down to. Learning how to be in front of the lens without clothes on for starters was one hell of an experience I can't help but Never forget.

You have to take into account your passion, love (hobbyist) for the art VS the amount of money paid to make art. What wins?

for me the right balance of the two, many don't seem to know how to do that.

sorry i went way off course here and got carried away.

Explains a lot.

But all I heard was you have nakeds to share with JessicaV  smile
Sent web size to [email protected]


LOL!!!

Sep 26 09 10:06 pm Link

Model

Alisyn Carliene

Posts: 11756

San Bernardino, California, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

LOL Sucker every minute I guess.
I'm sure modeling is not all you do anymore (if ever) at 34, and, one more point that to be a non nude glamour model is to seal your fate at never being a full time model.
I'm full on your food. And I just threw it up.

wow that was uncalled for.

Sep 26 09 10:06 pm Link

Model

Ashley Graham

Posts: 26822

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Garry k wrote:

thats just plain silly ...

the real ie paying work like fashion , accessories and perfumes do not feature real nudity ....maybe some implied or ( if you live in France ) a bare breast or buttock

There are fashion models like Coco Rocha who have made millions and not shown anything private ...

and who really pays fashion models serious money for nude photos ....well maybe if  you are a top fashion model - Playboy might - but once they are gone then who ?

Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this?

Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi

Sep 26 09 10:07 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Garry k wrote:
Hey we both know that being in print does not always mean a model is being paid or paid well ... ie editorials versus ( the real money ) campaigns ...,

I'm talking Cindy Crawford, Claudia Schiffer, Elle McPherson, Cameron Diez.

Sep 26 09 10:07 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

tereyn wrote:

wow that was uncalled for.

Old news.

Sep 26 09 10:08 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Cuica Cafezinho wrote:
Out of line like calling somebody a bitch maybe? I dunno.

(totally unrelated... Has anyone ever used "then" three times in the same sentence before? Wait, what? Did I just called that a sentence?)

Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad.

I called them like I see them.

Sep 26 09 10:08 pm Link

Model

V Marie

Posts: 903

Denver, Colorado, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

I do...licks**

hehe!!

Sep 26 09 10:09 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:
Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this?

Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi

Or a million other top tier shooters we could list. Sante D'Orazio, Patrick Demarchelier


People who belittle nudity in the REAL industry or the online network of crazies we are use to have no idea the sorts of images are in world wide print.

Sep 26 09 10:10 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

LT Smash wrote:

Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this?

Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi

Well what do I know about fashion anyway... my two genres I work in are Glamor and Artistic... (Because I work with nudes.. um.. duh)

But... This isn't a debate about fashion... Let's start another thread for that smile

Sep 26 09 10:10 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Extreme Body Art wrote:
Well what do I know about fashion anyway... my two genres I work in are Glamor and Artistic... (Because I work with nudes.. um.. duh)

But... This isn't a debate about fashion... Let's start another thread for that smile

There is one going today where some fuckhead called fashion nude an oxymoron. He was the moron.

Sep 26 09 10:12 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

I do...licks**

If I did... hers would would top the chart... but, I'll just stick with the... "Nice Ears" bit big_smile

Sep 26 09 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

LT Smash wrote:
Wrong. Again. And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this?

Why don't you take a look at Paolo Roversi

Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ...

My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ?

there is work and then there is Work

Sep 26 09 10:13 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad.

I called them like I see them.

Since when did speaking more languages make up for poor grammar in one of them? Bilingual people are now more educated than those of us who speak one language properly?

Sep 26 09 10:13 pm Link

Model

Ashley Graham

Posts: 26822

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Garry k wrote:

Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ...

My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ?

They do. Why don't you look at the catalog for bebe? Guess what? There's nudity.

Sep 26 09 10:14 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Garry k wrote:
Look , I understand that many top fashion models ( but not all ) pose nude , and I understand that that there are many great photographers that capture such ...

My only point is - when these models do this sort of work - do you think they make the same kinda money as when they say do a campaign for YSL or Lancome ?

They are BEYOND Lancome or Yves Saint Laurent. They have done it all and don't need any more money... they work for PR, not money. They work and pose to keep up their image for the BIGGG money they will make later on when they might need another 5 million

Sep 26 09 10:15 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Mira! Atleast I speak 3 languages, English being my third. So if you don't like my grammar. Oh well too bad.

I called them like I see them.

Ish Maria!

English is my second language. I don't always do well with it but I try to be careful when posting in an English speaking forum.

Killah, dig.

Sep 26 09 10:16 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Garry k wrote:
there is work and then there is Work

and then there is WOrk and then there is WORk and then there is WORK!

Sep 26 09 10:17 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:

They do. Why don't you look at the catalog for bebe? Guess what? There's nudity.

and it is so great. so so so so great.

Sep 26 09 10:17 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
and then there is WOrk and then there is WORk and then there is WORK!

I prefer WORK! over work any day... dunno.. what about you?

Sep 26 09 10:19 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
Since when did speaking more languages make up for poor grammar in one of them? Bilingual people are now more educated than those of us who speak one language properly?

Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect. I will tell you something I'm problably better at it then most Americans themeselves.

Sep 26 09 10:19 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:
And just to let you know before you speak again I spent the majority of my day with a top fashion photographer today. So what experience are you speaking from to know all of this?

And you feel renewed and inspired, don't you?

Sep 26 09 10:19 pm Link

Photographer

Aaron Pawlak

Posts: 2850

New York, New York, US

Naked; GOOD.
Not naked: not as good,

unless you are advertising clothing.
zzzz
good night.

Sep 26 09 10:19 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect.

Don't be a sidekick mod and call me out for your assessments of my posts. Junior staff.

Sep 26 09 10:20 pm Link

Model

Ashley Graham

Posts: 26822

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

And you feel renewed and inspired, don't you?

Dude, I feel like totally refreshed. I love working with those types of people. We just talk art and life all day. I'm ready to start shooting again all the time

Sep 26 09 10:20 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

Well English being my third language I'm not completely fluent in it. Or is everyone suppose to be perfect.

YES! PERFECTION DAMMIT!... Anything less is uncalled for smile

Sep 26 09 10:20 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

AaronPawlak wrote:
Naked; GOOD.
Not naked: not as good,

unless you are advertising clothing.
zzzz
good night.

Even then I like a little tit with my jeans!!

Sep 26 09 10:20 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

Don't be a sidekick mod and call me out for your assessments of my posts. Junior staff.

lol

Sep 26 09 10:20 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:
They are BEYOND Lancome or Yves Saint Laurent. They have done it all and don't need any more money... they work for PR, not money. They work and pose to keep up their image for the BIGGG money they will make later on when they might need another 5 million

Some would say even that some of these former top models do it - just to stay in the limelight becuase yes they have made enuf coin through their other Work

Sep 26 09 10:21 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

Moderator Warning!
Let's keep this civil and on topic, eh?

smile

Sep 26 09 10:21 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:

Dude, I feel like totally refreshed. I love working with those types of people. We just talk art and life all day. I'm ready to start shooting again all the time

I know. It is great to see a fresh perspective as to what the real industry is doing. They are, so needed for us, to wake our glamour asses up as to what is out there.

Sep 26 09 10:21 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Skydancer wrote:
Let's keep this civil and on topic, eh?

Fo Shizzle

smile

Sep 26 09 10:22 pm Link

Model

Ashley Graham

Posts: 26822

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

I know. It is great to see a fresh perspective as to what the real industry is doing. They are, so needed for us, to wake our glamour asses up as to what is out there.

I'm actually pondering going to agencies and seeing if I can get signed for beauty work

Sep 26 09 10:22 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:
I'm actually pondering going to agencies and seeing if I can get signed for beauty work

Philipe saw it in you.

Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something.

I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic.

Sep 26 09 10:24 pm Link

Model

Ashley Graham

Posts: 26822

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

Philipe saw it in you.

Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something.

I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic.

lol
When do we ever stay on topic?

Sep 26 09 10:26 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

Jessica Vaugn IN MIAMI wrote:

Philipe saw it in you.

Plus I'd hit it and that counts for something.

I mean... Hell I can't stay on topic.

Because I think it's been debated to death... there's nothing left to say about it...

But... You could always go to OT and post a "Shoot the Breeze" Thread to just talk about how this thread was just totally awesome and how glamor was totally about getting naked for the camera and junk . big_smile

Sep 26 09 10:27 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

LT Smash wrote:

lol
When do we ever stay on topic?

He just told us we have to stay on topic.
So  my on topic thought to you is... how big is your couch because Danny is coming with me to NY? LOL

Sep 26 09 10:27 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7328

Los Angeles, California, US

Extreme Body Art wrote:

Because I think it's been debated to death... there's nothing left to say about it...

But... You could always go to OT and post a "Shoot the Breeze" Thread to just talk about how this thread was just totally awesome and how glamor was totally about getting naked for the camera and junk . big_smile

Glamour is the shit. In fact, I can't decide weather I like booty or boobie more.

Sep 26 09 10:28 pm Link