Model
Grace R
Posts: 2779
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
Herb Way wrote:
I say all things in moderation. This is what I include in the information that I send to models in advance of nude shoots.
"If you don't have a Brazilian bikini wax, your pubic area should be neatly trimmed with hair not extending out toward your thighs or up toward your navel." Uh, why don't you just only shoot models who already match that description? If a photographer booked me on the basis of my portfolio and then said something like that to me, they'd get their booking cancelled.
Photographer
Dial35
Posts: 103
New York, New York, US
Fotographic Aspirations wrote:
I miss the " Bush " days ! I love Bush...
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Grace R wrote:
Uh, why don't you just only shoot models who already match that description? If a photographer booked me on the basis of my portfolio and then said something like that to me, they'd get their booking cancelled. Agreed. People need to realize that growing out a bush takes time, and from going bare to bush there are in between steps that aren't very nice. If they want a model with bush, then they should hire a model with a bush. If they want a model with no pubic hair, then hire a model who's bald down there.
I just keep it trimmed and nice now, as opposed to being completely bare before. The day I can afford laser, though, I'll go back completely bare.
Model
Grace R
Posts: 2779
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
PixieMini wrote:
Agreed. People need to realize that growing out a bush takes time, and from going bare to bush there are in between steps that aren't very nice. Exactly. If I groomed to that description, I'd either have to have a full-length bush surrounded by stubble and the ensuing rash, or trim it all down to stubble length post-shoot and lose work until it grew back. Neither of those options is pretty.
Model
Ossuary
Posts: 1671
San Francisco, California, US
Dekilah wrote:
Wow, some people are really opinionated about other peoples' pubic hair. I mean it's one to dicuss it, it's another thing to come in here and see all these blanket statements like (obviously, not word for word):
- Ewww, all pubic hair is disgusting and gross
- All women should have pubic hair and they look like little girls if they don't
I find it odd that some of the models who don't have it seem to be very opinionated that no one should because it's gross, but you don't see the reverse (women who do have it saying its gross not to have it).
It's perfectly acceptable for a model to personally decide they do not like having pubic hair or want it shaped like a puppy dog or a heart or to have a full "bush" but do we really need to voice our (negative) opinions about others' pubic hair style or presence choice? I suppose we can, but it does look a bit foolish if you just go around insulting pubic hair like that.
Hmm... maybe I'm the one who is wrong here. Maybe I should be insulting those who have pubic hair on the lower parts of their bikini area and those that are shaven on the upper parts (because that would be the reverse of mine). Or should I only insult those that are the exact reverse? I'm not sure there are any of those. Dang it!
Note: sarcasm, but I am half serious THANK YOU 
Photographer
MGP Photography
Posts: 44
Haverstraw, New York, US
Personally I lean toward "bush". The fuller the better. To me it's way sexier because it leaves more to the imagination. You know what's behind it, you just cann't see what it looks like. It's the mystery of it. Aside from the personal erotic value of a full bush, I've asked and models have complied, to growing a full bush for my Victorian/Vintage Nudes Project. Again, as has been mentioned before, there's a timeless-ness to full pubes and a "must" for that type of shoot/project. Busg or bare tho, when shooting nudes, I always try to showcase that area of anatomy. I think it all too often is shuffled off to the side and not dealt with for fear of adding too much "sex" into the pic. Yes, it depends on the type of shoot, but a vaginal area is an extremely interesting visual area and it should be celebrated. I don't know, call me old-fashioned, or eccentric even, but I'ld shoot a model whether she's bared or bushed. It's all lovely to me. MG.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Grace R wrote:
Exactly. If I groomed to that description, I'd either have to have a full-length bush surrounded by stubble and the ensuing rash, or trim it all down to stubble length post-shoot and lose work until it grew back. Neither of those options is pretty. You should go with what gets you the most work. Absolutely. If you're not up to someone's standards, they can simply move on and find a model with the grooming habits they're looking for.
Photographer
MGP Photography
Posts: 44
Haverstraw, New York, US
I took a look thru your port Grace. LOVE your bush ! I'ld work with you anytime. smile. (Boy is this going to raise some dust on the subject. blush). MG.
Model
Stina C
Posts: 480
Sacramento, California, US
I do whatever the photographer needs for the shoot. I am usually shaved but right now I have a bush. I have a shoot coming up in a couple of weeks that I will shave for. I'm not the artist, just part of the subject. I have pics both ways in my port.
Model
Grace R
Posts: 2779
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
MotherGoose Productions wrote:
I took a look thru your port Grace. LOVE your bush ! I'ld work with you anytime. smile. (Boy is this going to raise some dust on the subject. blush). MG. Everybody loves my bush. Except losers.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
MotherGoose Productions wrote:
I took a look thru your port Grace. LOVE your bush ! I'ld work with you anytime. smile. (Boy is this going to raise some dust on the subject. blush). MG. Grace R wrote:
Everybody loves my bush. Except losers. You need to come work with me first, he wants to get dust all over you. 
Photographer
La Seine by the Hudson
Posts: 8587
New York, New York, US
Every time I see this and other issues related to "fine art," I continually ask myself why the hell does a sexual context have to be assiduously avoided?
Model
Grace R
Posts: 2779
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
Art of the nude wrote:
MotherGoose Productions wrote:
I took a look thru your port Grace. LOVE your bush ! I'ld work with you anytime. smile. (Boy is this going to raise some dust on the subject. blush). MG. You need to come work with me first, he wants to get dust all over you. Maybe you could club together to buy my flight, I'm brooooooke 
Photographer
r T p
Posts: 3511
Los Angeles, California, US
La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
Every time I see this and other issues related to "fine art," I continually ask myself why the hell does a sexual context have to be assiduously avoided? i duno ...
![https://media.tribune.ie/site_media/photologue/photos/2009/May/16/cache/chongqing-wash-hands002223_display.jpg]()
Model
Grace R
Posts: 2779
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
cyberean wrote:
i duno ...
![https://media.tribune.ie/site_media/photologue/photos/2009/May/16/cache/chongqing-wash-hands002223_display.jpg]() I want one of those!!!
Photographer
jaep
Posts: 768
Newark, Delaware, US
cyberean wrote:
i duno ...
![https://media.tribune.ie/site_media/photologue/photos/2009/May/16/cache/chongqing-wash-hands002223_display.jpg]() Damn, he is too short!! Or maybe I am missing something 
I shot with a model yesterday. During our pre-shoot tele conversation over the phone, she told me that she had not shaved at all. I asked which part (s) and she said "all". And then she asked if I wanted her to shave and I screamed "NOOOOOOO, DON'T!!".
A good shoot was had
Photographer
Jim Cookfair
Posts: 245
Buffalo, New York, US
seems to me there is more to choosing a model and creating art than bush or no bush
Photographer
Markus Goerg
Posts: 1689
Los Angeles, California, US
Erin Taylor wrote:
I wouldn't consider that "full bush", slightly thicker than they typical landing strip.
Big diff in that and and full bush +1 - No kidding!
Photographer
Naveed Thomas
Posts: 132
North Miami Beach, Florida, US
I prefer as natural and bushy as possible. But in Miami it's virtually impossible to find a model who doesn't shave completely, which is a little frustrating for me at times.
Photographer
Jeffrey D Photography
Posts: 234
Aurora, Illinois, US
JD200 wrote:
The Pubic Option is being hotly debated in the Senate as we speak. Lets hold off until our "leaders" decide what is best for each and everyone of us. But the Bush regime already left the office.
Photographer
Jeffrey D Photography
Posts: 234
Aurora, Illinois, US
Kes1 wrote:
Bare scares me. At that, bare scares my husband. He's got this no minors thing, and doesn't want to have to have me sign a statement and photocopy my ID before all interactions. Ya, and that's why I like the bush. I would prefer to have dreams of flossing over nightmares of sharing a small room with Bubba for 20 years.
Body Painter
Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
Again, to ye uncultured and ignorant.
Shaving Is NOT new to the artistic nude industry... if you wish to remain ignorant, that is up to you.
I can post all day long examples of PRE 1900s of art where the model is shaved. (I already posted a couple examples at the beginning of this thread)
Shaved is a preference. Non shaved is a preference.
Shaved is no more pornographic than Bush.
In fact one could argue that Bush is more detracting and draws your eye straight to the crotch area than a shaved one. I cannot believe this thread isn't locked yet.
Arguing opinions is ridiculous.
Photographer
Edward
Posts: 332
Bowie, Maryland, US
I really could careless as long as the model shows up for the photo session.
Photographer
Jeffrey D Photography
Posts: 234
Aurora, Illinois, US
Edwardv wrote:
I really could careless as long as the model shows up for the photo session. Isn't that the truth.
Model
L57
Posts: 10908
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Bill Mason Images wrote:
Models that shoot art nudes tend to go with a bush. false
Bill Mason Images wrote:
Photographers that shoot art nudes tend to prefer a bush. false.
most fine art nude models I have seen do not have fully grown pubic hair. And I know several that do, but they do not constitute the majority. In fact, they have very large disclaimers on thier page point out they have grown pubes because many photographers, including art nude photographers are surprised.
That said, it's hardly uncommon.
Each person is different, each photographer has different preferences and different needs depending on the shoot. No matter what one chooses they will miss out on some opportunities by styling one way or the other.
Photographer
Angelfactory
Posts: 1559
Foley, Minnesota, US
I don't like a full blown Chewbacca but some hair is nice. Everything in moderation, don't want to poke an eye out.
Photographer
DigitAl Photographix
Posts: 919
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
what does it matter? As long as she has the "look" that you want for the shoot!
Photographer
Softly Spoken Photo
Posts: 415
Rocky Mount, Virginia, US
As long as it does not look like she is giving birth to an Ewok I'll shoot....
Photographer
NatLight Studios
Posts: 810
Menlo Park, California, US
Grace R wrote:
Everybody loves my bush. Except losers. I must be a loser. I think it's too distracting for what I shoot. Having one dark spot in an otherwise alabaster image draws the eye to it, which is seldom what I want.
Happily, the galleries that carry my work, and the collectors who buy it, don't share your opinion. Nor do the models who seek to work with me.
But if that's what you, or photographers who work with you, want, terrific, happy shooting.
Bush or bare is a personal preference, that's all. Making broad statements is foolish.
Photographer
stevie oetjengerdes
Posts: 606
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Jirrupin wrote:
i just don't think shaved is a good look! honestly I don't know how it caught on, there has to be at least a landing strip, preferably more substantial than an eyebrow! agreed - hardwood floors make me think of the child molester living down the street from me. not cool...
Model
Tegan Lynn
Posts: 993
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Is this thread still going?
Some people like pubic hair. Some people don't. The end.
Personally... I like it.
Photographer
Lumigraphics
Posts: 32780
Detroit, Michigan, US
Charles West wrote:
Glamour and porn = shaved
Art = trimmed bush, full bush, something to cover it up. No, wrong, thanks.
Who really cares anyway? Its not my hair, do what you want with it.
Like we need a long trainwreck again on this topic :sigh:
Photographer
Photography by DG
Posts: 72
Tampa, Florida, US
Jirrupin wrote:
i just don't think shaved is a good look! honestly I don't know how it caught on, there has to be at least a landing strip, preferably more substantial than an eyebrow! +1
Timeless and artsy is exactly how I was trying to describe it. I have been trying to locate a model or two who lives the natural way and not just wanting to "grow it out" for a quick payday. I really think the model who "lives" natural would actually give a more artsy feel to the shoot. At least from the ports I have viewed.
Photographer
New Kidd Imagery
Posts: 1909
South Salt Lake, Utah, US
Kes1 wrote:
Bare scares me. At that, bare scares my husband. He's got this no minors thing, and doesn't want to have to have me sign a statement and photocopy my ID before all interactions.
I use a trimmer with a #3 attachment for length and do the mini triangle. I trim the top as well as the sides.
I seriously hate the long look -the landing strip that fills to the top of the panty line. It's getting dated. If you're going to go thin, you also need to shorten it up to keep it more proportionate to what it would be were it natural. Otherwise it's too 1991 porn. This is an ignorant post....
Traci Lords made it into porn when she was 15 years old.. and guess what... BUSH.. yeah.. so being shaved or having a bush doesn't tell you whether you are shooting a minor or not...
This whole statement is FAIL.
PRImaging wrote:
In a recent shoot with a model, she brought to my attention that many photographers reject her as a model because she refuses to grow pubic hair.
Is there really such a demand for models with pubes? I personally prefer to shoot models in nude shoots without or with a tidy landing strip as opposed to a big bush.
Is it really in such demand for models with pubes?
If you are a neatly shaved woman, and a photographer wanted to shoot you with pubes, would you grow it out, or just not fit into that particular mold? Don't care.
Model with pubes.. model without... I don't have a preference.
And now I responded to this Zombie thread.. I presume it will continue on.
Photographer
alessandro2009
Posts: 8091
Florence, Toscana, Italy
PRImaging wrote:
Is there really such a demand for models with pubes? I think is more a matter of personal preference.
Generally i prefer if is present a tiny bit of pubic hair instead of nothing but I give more importance to other factors (good proportion of the all figure, attitude of the model, etc). So isn't something indispensable.
Note:
I haven't looked that this was a Zombie thread.. 
Photographer
David Martin
Posts: 1
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
PRImaging wrote:
In a recent shoot with a model, she brought to my attention that many photographers reject her as a model because she refuses to grow pubic hair.
Is there really such a demand for models with pubes? I personally prefer to shoot models in nude shoots without or with a tidy landing strip as opposed to a big bush.
Is it really in such demand for models with pubes?
If you are a neatly shaved woman, and a photographer wanted to shoot you with pubes, would you grow it out, or just not fit into that particular mold? It's my preference. I'd rather have pubic hair in my shoots, and have requested it before, but ultimately, if I want to work with a model I won't let this one thing stand in my way.
Model
GingerMuse
Posts: 369
STUDIO CITY, California, US
Bill Mason Images LLC wrote:
Models that shoot art nudes tend to go with a bush. Photographers that shoot art nudes tend to prefer a bush. It makes the image more timeless...more natural. Glamour models tend to go with the smooth look or something tiny and tidy. It really depends on the type of nudes you are creating. I disagree, I specialize in fine art nudes and have never been asked by a fine art photographer to grow out a bush, nor have I been rejected for a job because of it. Although one time when I posed for David lachapelle they put fake bush on everyone who was shaved because he was going for a renaissance style; but I was still hired sans pubes, they just put a fake one on.
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
GingerMuse wrote:
I disagree, I specialize in fine art nudes and have never been asked by a fine art photographer to grow out a bush, nor have I been rejected for a job because of it. Although one time when I posed for David lachapelle they put fake bush on everyone who was shaved because he was going for a renaissance style; but I was still hired sans pubes, they just put a fake one on. Generally speaking....he's right. Note the word tend.....not etched in granite but....
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