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Photographer

Living Canvas

Posts: 2039

Denver, Colorado, US

Vivka wrote:
Mine is lasered, so I cant grow it even if I wanted to.

You, are awesome smile

Dec 11 09 10:00 am Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

I am a photographer, I can easily adapt and improvise.  Give me the brush, landing strip, or bald eagle, I will make it work.  Yes, it is not perfect, but will it ever be perfect.  I have not seen or worked with a perfect model.  If it is so easy, everyone is a photographer.  I take personality, look and the ability to pose anytime over hair issue.  smile

Dec 11 09 11:29 am Link

Photographer

Don Bothem Photography

Posts: 50

Brunswick, Georgia, US

I will not shoot nudes and I think shaved goes back to the old porn movies where the girls were clean and why were they clean, because men wanted the young look, the prepubescent look.  If your shaved then alright, but, if you sit and spread not a model, just another girl wanting somebody to look at their junk.

Dec 11 09 01:04 pm Link

Model

ElisAbEtH

Posts: 2142

Charleston, West Virginia, US

i personally shave it cuz i hate hair...
i've seen really beautiful models that don't shave it and some that do shave it...

Dec 11 09 01:08 pm Link

Model

Erin Taylor

Posts: 1367

Jacksonville, Florida, US

i don't think thing there's a big demand for it at all, a very small demand for it actually.

I personally think it's disgusting.
I know I don't want my stuff looking like a freaking monkey.

I'm all shaven, but I've done the landing strip thing here and there,
and that's kind of fun.

I would only do it for a shoot if I was getting a good sum of money day of shoot, and money for each day it took to grow out [since I wouldn't be doing other shoots on those days]

Dec 11 09 01:11 pm Link

Model

Erin Taylor

Posts: 1367

Jacksonville, Florida, US

double post

Dec 11 09 01:16 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Art of Vincent Wolff

Posts: 2925

Wheaton, Illinois, US

18+   https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

Image of Carlotta Champagne #3155, taken by Rob Domaschuk #159619.  Pubic hair drawn exactly like in photo.  Not disgusting, all depends on who wears it I guess

Dec 11 09 01:24 pm Link

Photographer

BodyartBabes

Posts: 2005

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
If God wanted you to have pubic hair, you would have been born with it . . .






KM

Same could be said for "breasts" too.  You are not born with those either.

Things happen at puberty, and G-d probably intended for that too.

This whole argument almost sounds pedaphillic!   

Why do threads like this totally destroy my faith/belief that there is any hope for the future, and that model/photography is not just some thinly veiled guise for hooking up, personal fetish or kink, or just sex?   

People don't talk about images, ideas, or messages, or getting the job done.  They talk about personal attributes, age, looks, shaving, etc, etc. 

I gess I'm just too old, and have a whole different view of what "photography" is about.

Scott

Dec 11 09 01:24 pm Link

Model

ElisAbEtH

Posts: 2142

Charleston, West Virginia, US

BodyartBabes wrote:

Same could be said for "breasts" too.  You are not born with those either.

Things happen at puberty, and G-d probably intended for that too.

This whole argument almost sounds pedaphillic!   

Why do threads like this totally destroy my faith/belief that there is any hope for the future, and that model/photography is not just some thinly veiled guise for hooking up, personal fetish or kink, or just sex?   

People don't talk about images, ideas, or messages, or getting the job done.  They talk about personal attributes, age, looks, shaving, etc, etc. 

I gess I'm just too old, and have a whole different view of what "photography" is about.

Scott

I did say that some models are hot with and some models are hot without...
It is a scientific fact that those who shave are more prone to yeast infections, and catching stds... but that is not an issue with me big_smile

Dec 11 09 01:27 pm Link

Photographer

Living Canvas

Posts: 2039

Denver, Colorado, US

BodyartBabes wrote:
Same could be said for "breasts" too.  You are not born with those either.

Things happen at puberty, and G-d probably intended for that too.

This whole argument almost sounds pedaphillic!   

Why do threads like this totally destroy my faith/belief that there is any hope for the future, and that model/photography is not just some thinly veiled guise for hooking up, personal fetish or kink, or just sex?   

People don't talk about images, ideas, or messages, or getting the job done.  They talk about personal attributes, age, looks, shaving, etc, etc. 

I guess I'm just too old, and have a whole different view of what "photography" is about.

Scott

There are plenty of genres in photography that have nothing to do with sex what soever.

Architectural
Landscape
Family Portraiture
Macro

A lot of modeling based photography does have to do with sex, no matter how subtle.

Why? Sex sells. And a lot of commercial advertising uses models to display their products. Sorry, shaving your genitals serves purposes other than "to imply the model is of a young age" or whatever pedophilic ideas you have.
Shit, why does no one have a problem with female models shaving their legs and armpits? That's not natural either. One might argue it makes them look much younger, because before puberty they didn't have to shave those areas. Give me a break...

Dec 11 09 01:32 pm Link

Model

Erin Taylor

Posts: 1367

Jacksonville, Florida, US

Vincent Wolff wrote:
18+   https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

Image of Carlotta Champagne #3155, taken by Rob Domaschuk #159619.  Pubic hair drawn exactly like in photo.  Not disgusting, all depends on who wears it I guess

I wouldn't consider that "full bush", slightly thicker than they typical landing strip.
Big diff in that and and full bush

Dec 11 09 01:32 pm Link

Photographer

Living Canvas

Posts: 2039

Denver, Colorado, US

Erin Taylor wrote:

I wouldn't consider that "full bush", slightly thicker than they typical landing strip.
Big diff in that and and full bush

+1

Dec 11 09 01:33 pm Link

Photographer

Le Beck Photography

Posts: 4114

Los Angeles, California, US

Dec 11 09 01:40 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Art of Vincent Wolff

Posts: 2925

Wheaton, Illinois, US

no, but she has one on her site wear it is considerably longer.

Bottom line is, it's a very personal decision....for you its disgusting, but it can work well for others, that's all.

Dec 11 09 01:41 pm Link

Photographer

Markus Goerg

Posts: 1689

Los Angeles, California, US

Vivka wrote:
Mine is lasered, so I cant grow it even if I wanted to.

God bless you. big_smile

Dec 11 09 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

Eastfist

Posts: 3582

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

Le Beck Photography wrote:
10 plus!

What could be more beautiful?
18+
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2009/ … toscot.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/ … toscot.jpg
http://lebeckerotica.com/betceemay3/ima … 3_483m.jpg
http://lebeckerotica.com/theda1/images/ … 6_320m.jpg

Beautiful, beautiful!  Nettie and Theda were some of the first models I corresponded with when I first joined.  Natural beauties.  Whoops, threadjacking...

Dec 11 09 01:46 pm Link

Photographer

Jaddie

Posts: 43

Buford, Georgia, US

Vivka wrote:
Mine is lasered, so I cant grow it even if I wanted to.

Dear Vivka & Friends

Bless you, sweet angel!

--Jaddie

Dec 11 09 05:03 pm Link

Model

Bon voyage MM

Posts: 9508

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

Erin Taylor wrote:
i don't think thing there's a big demand for it at all, a very small demand for it actually.

I think one major difference may be the girl.
Very slim girls with small busts and small butts are seem to be preferred to have no hair.
Curvier girls, bigger busts and hips, seem to be preffered to have some.

Maybe it is an age thing?

Dec 11 09 05:38 pm Link

Model

Dekilah

Posts: 5236

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Wow, some people are really opinionated about other peoples' pubic hair. I mean it's one to dicuss it, it's another thing to come in here and see all these blanket statements like (obviously, not word for word):
- Ewww, all pubic hair is disgusting and gross
- All women should have pubic hair and they look like little girls if they don't

I find it odd that some of the models who don't have it seem to be very opinionated that no one should because it's gross, but you don't see the reverse (women who do have it saying its gross not to have it).

It's perfectly acceptable for a model to personally decide they do not like having pubic hair or want it shaped like a puppy dog or a heart or to have a full "bush" but do we really need to voice our (negative) opinions about others' pubic hair style or presence choice? I suppose we can, but it does look a bit foolish if you just go around insulting pubic hair like that.

Hmm... maybe I'm the one who is wrong here. Maybe I should be insulting those who have pubic hair on the lower parts of their bikini area and those that are shaven on the upper parts (because that would be the reverse of mine). Or should I only insult those that are the exact reverse? I'm not sure there are any of those. Dang it!

Note: sarcasm, but I am half serious

Dec 11 09 06:23 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

BodyartBabes wrote:

Same could be said for "breasts" too.  You are not born with those either.

Things happen at puberty, and G-d probably intended for that too.

This whole argument almost sounds pedaphillic!   

Why do threads like this totally destroy my faith/belief that there is any hope for the future, and that model/photography is not just some thinly veiled guise for hooking up, personal fetish or kink, or just sex?   

People don't talk about images, ideas, or messages, or getting the job done.  They talk about personal attributes, age, looks, shaving, etc, etc. 

I gess I'm just too old, and have a whole different view of what "photography" is about.

Scott

Apparently you don't enjoy my sense of humor . . . .

Dec 11 09 06:29 pm Link

Photographer

Archived

Posts: 13509

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Sabrina Maree wrote:
I think one major difference may be the girl.
Very slim girls with small busts and small butts are seem to be preferred to have no hair.
Curvier girls, bigger busts and hips, seem to be preffered to have some.

Maybe it is an age thing?

It makes sense that the attraction to a sexually mature female would include all the traits of sexual maturity - larger breasts, wider hips, pubic hair. The pubic hair would be a sign of sexual maturity.

Whereas the attraction to a more youthful type figure would include the traits of sexual immaturity - pre-pubescent busts, hips, pubic hair. The lack of pubic hair would be a sign of youth.

I'm not saying that people who like one style or another are pedophiles, but that there are evolutionary preferences there, as well as cultural ones.

Dec 11 09 06:35 pm Link

Photographer

r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US

i'm all for public hair
... and private too

Dec 12 09 02:21 am Link

Photographer

This User Is Not Here

Posts: 1964

Durango, Colorado, US

While I don't like an overgrown "bush", I think shaved pubic areas are gross to look at, to be honest.

Dec 12 09 02:25 am Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

BodyartBabes wrote:

Same could be said for "breasts" too.  You are not born with those either.

Things happen at puberty, and G-d probably intended for that too.

This whole argument almost sounds pedaphillic! 

Why do threads like this totally destroy my faith/belief that there is any hope for the future, and that model/photography is not just some thinly veiled guise for hooking up, personal fetish or kink, or just sex?   

People don't talk about images, ideas, or messages, or getting the job done.  They talk about personal attributes, age, looks, shaving, etc, etc. 

I gess I'm just too old, and have a whole different view of what "photography" is about.

Scott

What people don't understand is that pubic hair starts growing in at different times in life for everyone... If you recall Traci Lords had Pubic hair at age 15... so age has nothing to do with pubic hair.

Shaving is a preference thing, it has nothing to do what is or is not artistic, as I posted earlier, there were artists in the 1800s that worked with models that were shaved as well as bush, so Just because someone shaves does not make it pornographic (Pedophilic) and like wise just because someone has a full bush/trimmed bush does not make it artistic.

Hair is a preference, make up is a preference, hair style is a preference, it's all opinion, there is no fact-based arguments here.

Dec 12 09 07:59 am Link

Photographer

MLRPhoto

Posts: 5766

Olivet, Michigan, US

Extreme Body Art wrote:
What people don't understand is that pubic hair starts growing in at different times in life for everyone... If you recall Traci Lords had Pubic hair at age 15... so age has nothing to do with pubic hair.

Shaving is a preference thing, it has nothing to do what is or is not artistic, as I posted earlier, there were artists in the 1800s that worked with models that were shaved as well as bush, so Just because someone shaves does not make it pornographic (Pedophilic) and like wise just because someone has a full bush/trimmed bush does not make it artistic.

Hair is a preference, make up is a preference, hair style is a preference, it's all opinion, there is no fact-based arguments here.

It starts growing a lot younger than 15 in many cases.   But, obviously, age does have *something to do with pubic hair.  You can be pretty sure that 6 year olds won't have it, and barring some version of "shaving" 26 year olds will.   

Very few people seem to even understand what a pedophile is attracted to.  Certainly a "pre puberty" female would lack pubic hair, but that's only one aspect.  They are typically also short, since female puberty often starts by 10 or so.  But finding short women attractive isn't a sign that one is a pedophile.   Nor is finding a shaved pubic area preferable.

A recent episode of one of the "Law and Order" shows featured a man who was attracted to "girls between 3 and 9."  THAT is a pedophile.  Not some guy who likes a 19 year old skinny girl who shaves. 

From the other direction, I don't even know what to say to the "pubic hair is gross" bunch.  As a rule, people with pubic hair wash it regularly, as they do any other hair, and their skin.  As mentioned above, pubic hair has some value in preventing infection, but ultimately, it's a personal choice.

Edited for typo.

Dec 12 09 08:18 am Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4938

South Jordan, Utah, US

MikeRobisonPhotos wrote:

It starts growing a lot younger than 15 in many cases.   But, obviously, age does have *something to do with pubic hair.  You can be pretty sure that 6 year olds won't have it, and barring some version of "shaving" 26 year olds will.   

Very few people seem to even understand what a pedophile is attracted to.  Certainly a "pre puberty" female would lack pubic hair, but that's only one aspect.  They are typically also short, since female puberty often starts by 10 or so.  But finding short women attractive isn't a sign that one is a pedophile.   Nor is finding a shaved pubic area preferable.

A recent episode of one of the "Law and Order" shows featured a man who was attracted to "girls between 3 and 9."  THAT is a pedophile.  Not some guy who likes a 19 year old skinny girl who shaves. 

From the other direction, I don't even know what to say to the "pubic hair is gross" bunch.  As a rule, people with pubic hair wash it regularly, as they do any other hair, and their skill.  As mentioned above, pubic hair has some value in preventing infection, but ultimately, it's a personal choice.

Very nicely said.

Dec 12 09 08:31 am Link

Model

P I X I E

Posts: 35440

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Charles West wrote:
Glamour and porn = shaved
Art = trimmed bush, full bush, something to cover it up.

I'll still work with models on a trade for basis without.  I just won't give them my money anymore.

Some people see "art."  I see pussy.  Very difficult seeing otherwise.

My pussy IS art!

Dec 12 09 11:11 am Link

Photographer

beta

Posts: 2097

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I prefer a bush...

But that is my personal preference,, the model may prefer something different and I am okay with that... Not sure why the strong statements against either option..

Dec 12 09 11:24 am Link

Photographer

beta

Posts: 2097

Nashville, Tennessee, US

PixieMini wrote:

My pussy IS art!

Yes it is!

Dec 12 09 11:25 am Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

JD200 wrote:
The Pubic Option is being hotly debated in the Senate as we speak. Lets hold off until our "leaders" decide what is best for each and everyone of us.

I thought they had already agreed they were tired of Bush smile

Dec 12 09 11:30 am Link

Model

P I X I E

Posts: 35440

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

penn wrote:

Yes it is!

big_smile

Dec 12 09 11:41 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

PixieMini wrote:
My pussy IS art!

smile

Someday, I'll do a shot like that.  For now, it's just handy when the model is comfortable with her whole body being a part of the project.

Dec 12 09 01:00 pm Link

Photographer

mphunt

Posts: 923

Hudson, Florida, US

From a photography stand point, don't care either way.  All, nothing, and anywhere in between.

From a personal preference.................well.....   smile

Dec 12 09 01:07 pm Link

Photographer

Luminos

Posts: 6065

Columbia, Maryland, US

PixieMini wrote:

My pussy IS art!

Proof?

Dec 12 09 01:11 pm Link

Photographer

Sync Studioz

Posts: 109

Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany

Charles West wrote:
Glamour and porn = shaved
Art = trimmed bush, full bush, something to cover it up.

I'll still work with models on a trade for basis without.  I just won't give them my money anymore.

Some people see "art."  I see pussy.  Very difficult seeing otherwise.

haaaaa well said
I think a "landing strip" is cute :-p

Dec 12 09 01:11 pm Link

Photographer

EnlightendedPhotography

Posts: 828

Eugene, Oregon, US

I prefer pubic hair for my human statue project !  It looks more natural and realistic.

Guess I am old school and prefer a little mystery.

Dec 12 09 01:15 pm Link

Model

Grace R

Posts: 2779

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Leah Jung wrote:
I think every lady should do whatever she wants. /end thread.

There we go. And every photographer should just hire models who have pubic grooming that matches their tastes and requirements. There are so many shaved models, so many trimmed models and so many full-bushed models that I don't see why photographers bother trying to pressure shaved girls into growing hair or vice versa.

I get work because of my hair, and other models get work because of being shaved. I can do things that they can't (i.e. pose with my legs without showing a fuckton of pinkery) and they can do things that I can't (i.e. model in lingerie/swimwear without looking like a 70s jungle disaster). Each style has its advantages and disadvantages so the only sensible thing to do is to go with what you like personally.

Dec 12 09 01:25 pm Link

Photographer

Herb Way

Posts: 1506

Black Mountain, North Carolina, US

I say all things in moderation. This is what I include in the information that I send to models in advance of nude shoots.

"If you don't have a Brazilian bikini wax, your pubic area should be neatly trimmed with hair not extending out toward your thighs or up toward your navel."

Dec 12 09 01:39 pm Link

Model

P I X I E

Posts: 35440

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Art of the nude wrote:

smile

Someday, I'll do a shot like that.  For now, it's just handy when the model is comfortable with her whole body being a part of the project.

When are we shooting? wink

Dec 12 09 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

AMCphoto2

Posts: 479

Los Angeles, California, US

I've worked with both.

Dec 12 09 02:06 pm Link