SRB Photo wrote:
Thanks for posting this Derek, it was a great watch - exceptional production quality from the Vimeo stream.

OOC, does the full video series go through the rest of the work she did on that image, or is this the extent to which she shows her work on it?

Thanks again!

+1 on this. 

Why is it every time someone goes through the effort to put up an instructional video (and kudos to those who do), it always starts with, "I did some work ahead of time that we won't talk about" that always contains the bits I'm interested in....?

SRB Photo wrote:
Thanks for posting this Derek, it was a great watch - exceptional production quality from the Vimeo stream.

Gry does a wonderful - and the video is exceptional for sure.

SRB Photo wrote:
OOC, does the full video series go through the rest of the work she did on that image, or is this the extent to which she shows her work on it?

I'm not sure, actually. I'll ask Gry and report back.

Derek Cooper wrote:
Gry does a wonderful - and the video is exceptional for sure.

Source material didn't hurt any, either.

Derek Cooper wrote:
I'm not sure, actually. I'll ask Gry and report back.

Looking forward to it!

Tog  wrote:
+1 on this.

Excellent! I like pluses.

Tog  wrote:
Why is it every time someone goes through the effort to put up an instructional video (and kudos to those who do), it always starts with, "I did some work ahead of time that we won't talk about" that always contains the bits I'm interested in....?

Well, you can't learn every secret from someone else??!! 

Derek Cooper wrote:

Tog  wrote:
+1 on this.

Excellent! I like pluses.


Well, you can't learn every secret from someone else??!! 

This is were you are wrong there are no secrets.

SRB Photo wrote:

Derek Cooper wrote:
Gry does a wonderful - and the video is exceptional for sure.

Source material didn't hurt any, either.

Looking forward to it!

Unfortunately, that's it for this shot on the DVD. Sorry 'bout that!

Angela Michelle Perez wrote:
This is were you are wrong there are no secrets.

Hehehe... apparently not.

Derek Cooper wrote:

Unfortunately, that's it for this shot on the DVD. Sorry 'bout that!

Hey, you checked and let us know - there's no sense complaining about honest (and free) information!

Thank you again.

SRB Photo wrote:
Hey, you checked and let us know - there's no sense complaining about honest (and free) information!

I'm Canadian - we tend to be apologetic!!!! LOL

Jerry Bennett wrote:
Nice! Thank you! I've been using the Liquefy tool, but I'll be using Warp a lot more in the near future.

FWIW, Liquify, Warp, and Puppet Warp all do basically the same thing.  Liquify just gives you the finest level of control, consequently allowing you to screw up detail the worst .  Working on a smaller copy of the image, saving the mesh, and applying it to the full-size is probably the best way of getting its interface without risking detail destruction.

Or just use the other tools .

Wilde One wrote:
Derek, when will Gry's e-book on retouching, version Photoshop CS5, come out?

Not sure actually - she didn't mention it to me. Sorry!

SRB Photo wrote:
FWIW, Liquify, Warp, and Puppet Warp all do basically the same thing.  Liquify just gives you the finest level of control, consequently allowing you to screw up detail the worst .

Yeah, that's what she must have meant. While I was watching the video, I had wished she'd gone into more detail about the different way that liquify handles the "pushing" of pixels over the other tools, but you must be right; she doesn't like how it's easier to mess up the detail.

Great video, thanks for sharing Derek.

SMT-Photos wrote:
"Gunna this... gunna that..."
What a complete waste of your life.  If the picture wasn't "taken correctly" in the first place, let it be!  I'm all for retouching but this is absurd.

No matter how well an image is photographed, they can all be enhanced and improved. Even the finest diamonds need to be polished.

Ruben Vasquez wrote:

No matter how well an image is photographed, they can all be enhanced and improved. Even the finest diamonds need to be polished.

Totally agree Ruben!

Glad people are enjoying the video - I watched it and was amazed to see how much effort goes into the post work on our shoots. It's amazing - and lovely.

Tog  wrote:

+1 on this. 

Why is it every time someone goes through the effort to put up an instructional video (and kudos to those who do), it always starts with, "I did some work ahead of time that we won't talk about" that always contains the bits I'm interested in....?

I totally Agree..Thats why i stopped watching after she said here is what i did ahead of time. And it was never discussed..So its left out alot of important stuff. So why post a How-To Video if you cant discuss the whole thing.

Page Photography inc wrote:
I totally Agree..Thats why i stopped watching after she said here is what i did ahead of time. And it was never discussed..So its left out alot of important stuff. So why post a How-To Video if you cant discuss the whole thing.

Beginner
Intermediate
Advance

...take your pick. If someone wanted to explain every little detail, the video would be 3+ hours long. Lucky there are more video tutorials on the market, than it ever was in the past. And that number is growing. Dose that answers your question?

Page Photography inc wrote:

I totally Agree..Thats why i stopped watching after she said here is what i did ahead of time. And it was never discussed..So its left out alot of important stuff. So why post a How-To Video if you cant discuss the whole thing.

What stuff ahead of time would be of interest to you Page?

Really all we did was some toning work - colour tones, not body toning. Pretty basic hue / sat moves. Nothing terribly exciting.

Does that help?

The Factory Fotografia wrote:
Thanks for the video, amazing picture.

My pleasure - glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the kudos on the pic.

Ruben Vasquez wrote:
I just got Gry's dvd's in the mail a couple days ago. I'm still working through Natalia's dvd's but have a watched a few of the tutorials. I'm really looking forward to studying them in depth.

Let us know what you think of the DVDs Ruben once you get a chance to watch them. I think there is something like 14 hours of content!!! Unreal.

Derek Cooper wrote:
Let us know what you think of the DVDs Ruben once you get a chance to watch them. I think there is something like 14 hours of content!!! Unreal.

You aint kidding! Both Natalia's and Gry's are quite in depth but go over the various material in very different ways. Besides simply watching the dvd's, I plan on retouching the image prior to the tutorial, while watching the tutorial and then once more after to see just how well I was able to absorb the material. Not too sure if any one really cares but I can do a write up on the experiance if you like.

Ruben Vasquez wrote:

You aint kidding! Both Natalia's and Gry's are quite in depth but go over the various material in very different ways. Besides simply watching the dvd's, I plan on retouching the image prior to the tutorial, while watching the tutorial and then once more after to see just how well I was able to absorb the material. Not too sure if any one really cares but I can do a write up on the experiance if you like.

Sounds cool - go for it and let us see when you're ready!

dklee studio photo wrote:
damn... time for me to upgrade from cs3 to cs5

Not really. The important thing is the workflow and attention to the detail. You could do all that without puppet warp and using imagedoctor plug-ins.

Great video though. Always useful to watch excellent people at work.

SRB Photo wrote:

FWIW, Liquify, Warp, and Puppet Warp all do basically the same thing.  Liquify just gives you the finest level of control, consequently allowing you to screw up detail the worst .  Working on a smaller copy of the image, saving the mesh, and applying it to the full-size is probably the best way of getting its interface without risking detail destruction.

Or just use the other tools .

Yeah, there's something about liquify that just works well with the body. Maybe 'cause it's round?