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Camera Ready Studios

Posts: 7191

Dallas, Texas, US

Shekeita Magitt wrote:
Here are some good pics of the ACTUAL CS palettes......


http://cgi.ebay.com/Cinema-secrets-foun … 564127425d

yikes!  $24.00 on ebay.  They are 19.99 at Camera Ready Cosmetics. 

Mary
www.CRCMakeup.com

Dec 11 10 09:20 am Link

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Chelsea Dutchak

Posts: 728

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I have Face Atelier, and RCMA...what other foundations should I add to my kit?

Dec 11 10 10:55 am Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Mary wrote:

yikes!  $24.00 on ebay.  They are 19.99 at Camera Ready Cosmetics. 

Mary
www.CRCMakeup.com

I was thinking the same thing.....oh and it's not including shipping! It's good for swatches tho : )

Dec 11 10 11:41 am Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Chelsea Dutchak wrote:
I have Face Atelier, and RCMA...what other foundations should I add to my kit?

I like Graftobian alot but it's not good for oily skin. I hear CS is great but I don't have them yet. Gonna go with the RCMA palette instead of the CS ones since another MUA let me know that getting the CS would lead me to having duplicate shades. I love the texture of the CS but I can get it from RCMA after warming it or mixing it with FA or moisturizer.

Dec 11 10 11:47 am Link

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ELSIE BROSCH MAKEUP

Posts: 20

Katy, Texas, US

Y S B wrote:

I use the RCMA Shinto Palette.  I don't need the KO.

What's the difference of Shinto and KO?

Dec 17 10 12:18 pm Link

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Beauty by Natalie

Posts: 252

New York, New York, US

Shekeita Magitt wrote:

I like Graftobian alot but it's not good for oily skin. I hear CS is great but I don't have them yet. Gonna go with the RCMA palette instead of the CS ones since another MUA let me know that getting the CS would lead me to having duplicate shades. I love the texture of the CS but I can get it from RCMA after warming it or mixing it with FA or moisturizer.

Let me know how the RCMA works for you. : )

Dec 17 10 04:10 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

HD Makeup by ELSIE wrote:

What's the difference of Shinto and KO?

KO is more pink/red....darker colors for darker skintones. Shinto is more yello/neutral. The darker colors don't go that deep.

Dec 17 10 04:13 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Natalie Cardona wrote:

Let me know how the RCMA works for you. : )

Will do!

Dec 17 10 04:14 pm Link

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ELSIE BROSCH MAKEUP

Posts: 20

Katy, Texas, US

Shekeita Magitt wrote:

KO is more pink/red....darker colors for darker skintones. Shinto is more yello/neutral. The darker colors don't go that deep.

Thank you. So which one is good for cool tone?

Dec 17 10 07:51 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

HD Makeup by ELSIE wrote:
Thank you. So which one is good for cool tone?

Every person I have worked on have always been yellow/warm toned. Maybe that's just my luck so far since I only own the Graftobian warm palette which is mostly yellow tones. I do own heat(Face Atelier) which thanks to a awsome lady letting me know, lets me warm up my foundations if they are too yellow. I would go with the Shinto palette unless your clients are mostly if not all on the darker side. Most people I know whom have the KO never or barely use it.

Dec 17 10 08:08 pm Link

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ELSIE BROSCH MAKEUP

Posts: 20

Katy, Texas, US

Shekeita Magitt wrote:

I like Graftobian alot but it's not good for oily skin. I hear CS is great but I don't have them yet. Gonna go with the RCMA palette instead of the CS ones since another MUA let me know that getting the CS would lead me to having duplicate shades. I love the texture of the CS but I can get it from RCMA after warming it or mixing it with FA or moisturizer.

Is RCMA good for oily skin?

Dec 18 10 06:29 am Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

HD Makeup by ELSIE wrote:

Is RCMA good for oily skin?

I have not used it yet but I hear the formula is much dryer so it works well with oily skin.

Dec 18 10 07:17 am Link

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Ms Samantha Marie

Posts: 1377

San Francisco, California, US

I just wanted to say in this thread real quick:
PLEASE don't use Revlon Colorstay on your models.

I got it to try & used it 2 days & had to throw it away - bad allergic reaction to my skin!
You never know how your model's skin is. If it works for you (yes it has good coverage & staying power) then go right ahead.

Dec 18 10 04:04 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Ms_Samantha_Marie wrote:
I just wanted to say in this thread real quick:
PLEASE don't use Revlon Colorstay on your models.

I got it to try & used it 2 days & had to throw it away - bad allergic reaction to my skin!
You never know how your model's skin is. If it works for you (yes it has good coverage & staying power) then go right ahead.

I disagree! I use this on most of my models/clients.....buff is my most used shade. I have never had a client or myself break out from it. However there is a chance that ANY product can make ANYONE break out but that doesn't mean you stop putting makeup on your clients. Just do spot tests first if you are concerned about bad reactions. On another note: Revlon colorstay photographs beautifully. I use it on all of my shoots....either alone or mixed and I love the stuff.

Dec 18 10 06:22 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Has anyone ever had issued with foundatioun not sticking to the skin after using makeup remover? A few days ago I worked with a MUA whom could not get the foundation to stay put after using some. I assumed it was that there was still some residue and the chemicals still wanted to do there job lol. Could that be the reason?

Dec 21 10 01:12 am Link

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SN Makeup

Posts: 540

Corona, California, US

Shekeita Magitt wrote:
Has anyone ever had issued with foundatioun not sticking to the skin after using makeup remover? A few days ago I worked with a MUA whom could not get the foundation to stay put after using some. I assumed it was that there was still some residue and the chemicals still wanted to do there job lol. Could that be the reason?

This would happen if they used an oil-based makeup remover.

Dec 21 10 10:54 pm Link

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Laura Walton MUA

Posts: 1

Stratford-upon-Avon, England, United Kingdom

This thread is very helpful, thanks!

Just a quick question, I am purchasing the Face Atelier foundations for my kit but I was hoping for a recommendation for my oily skinned bridal clients? Something long lasting and helps keep the shine at bay?

Thanks x

Dec 26 10 04:36 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Laura Walton MUA wrote:
This thread is very helpful, thanks!

Just a quick question, I am purchasing the Face Atelier foundations for my kit but I was hoping for a recommendation for my oily skinned bridal clients? Something long lasting and helps keep the shine at bay?

Thanks x

My most used foundation for bridal is Revlon colorstay. If the client has oily skin I use the oily/combination formula. It is waterproof, absorbs the oil and photographs beautifully. Not everyone likes it but I love it.  If the client is very oily try a good primer....I don't use it but I hear a lot of good things about the Urban Decay de-slick gel. HTH

Dec 26 10 04:40 pm Link

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Nikki Collins

Posts: 5

San Francisco, California, US

I use LORAC . i love it.

Jan 06 11 11:42 am Link

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Chelsea Dutchak

Posts: 728

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

What kind of primer is best to use with face atelier?
I've never had a problem on a model, but I started using it on myself and I find it doesn't last as long as it does when I use it for work.  I don't have oily skin, I would say I have combination but more on the drier side.  I use a body shop primer with it, which to me feels very similar to the MUFE primer.  Should I be using something different?

Jan 06 11 12:09 pm Link

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Denise

Posts: 1926

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

Face Atelier foundation is silicon based so you should not be using a sb primer with it. If you feel you need a primer, use a water-based one.

Jan 06 11 12:50 pm Link

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Chelsea Dutchak

Posts: 728

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

ooh ok thanks smile

Jan 06 11 08:50 pm Link

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Ms Samantha Marie

Posts: 1377

San Francisco, California, US

bumping smile

Jan 12 11 11:35 pm Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Decided to bump this thread. It has tons of great product recommendations and advice. I Just got my MAC face and body and I love it. It's great for men and those with nearly flawless skin.

Mar 16 11 08:24 am Link

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AMJ Artistry

Posts: 40

Richmond, Virginia, US

This is a great thread and now I won't feel like a total newb for bumping a 3-4 year old thread! Lol Thanks for starting this newer one smile Loooots of great info for me!

Mar 16 11 10:34 am Link

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Shekeita Magitt

Posts: 1172

Atlanta, Georgia, US

AMJ Artistry wrote:
This is a great thread and now I won't feel like a total newb for bumping a 3-4 year old thread! Lol Thanks for starting this newer one smile Loooots of great info for me!

No problem. Enjoy and feel free to ask away!

Mar 16 11 10:52 am Link

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DYH Hydaia

Posts: 50

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

love this thread!
im wondering,i already have graftobian warm and neutral and i wanna add yaby liquid to my kit.would it be good for oily skin? since i understand that graftobian would be too dewy for the oily skinned clients.

oh yes,anyone can give me suggestions on which few to get for yaby?im confused!if i had a bigger budget,i'd get all!hehehe.thanks everyone smile

Mar 16 11 04:15 pm Link

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Beauty By Shadan

Posts: 2

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Shekeita Magitt wrote:
I noticed that a lot of people new to the site are having a hard time finding updated threads on this topic. I figured I would go ahead a start a new thread to help avoid the repeat questions.

Here are the foundations I use....

For women of color: Graftobian & Black Opal
For drier skin: Graftobian & Face Atelier
For oily skin: Revlon Colorstay combination formula & Make up For ever HD
WARNING: Do not use FA on oily skin!

Setting Powders:
For women of color I use Ben Nye Banana powder
For lighter skin I use Ben Nye Neutral setting powder

Other founadtions to look into are Cinema Secrets, MUFE Face & body, Mac Full Coverage & more!

Just wanted to say thanks Shekeita for starting this awesome thread. As a newbie, this thread has helped me so much...and a few years have passed since you started this thread but the info is so useful!

Jul 24 13 09:09 am Link

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MakeUp by Mau

Posts: 5

Boston, Massachusetts, US

With Cinema Secrets palettes, I have been able to match every skin tone from lightest to darkest and everything in between. The also show well across all medias.

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Jul 29 13 09:00 pm Link

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Hillary Scrogins

Posts: 17

Jacksonville, Florida, US

I'm building my newbie kit up and I was wondering what the best foundation palettes and setting powders would be for me to invest in. I've heard a lot of great things about Graftobian but seeing as how I don't have a ton of money to spend all at once, I want to make sure I'm purchasing the best option and not just jumping the gun, buying the first thing I hear good reviews about. I also want to know what the best options would be for oily and dry skin, and for creating a matte or dewy finish.

Jul 06 14 06:39 pm Link

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Keila Sone

Posts: 129

Harrison, New Jersey, US

Has anyone tried black up cosmetics? What did you like?

Jul 07 14 01:45 pm Link

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nhe

Posts: 1

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Denise wrote:
Face Atelier foundation is silicon based so you should not be using a sb primer with it. If you feel you need a primer, use a water-based one.

Hi Denise,

I am new the forum. Can you tell me why you suggest using a water-based primer with a silicon based foundation? I have googled and did my research but I can't find the answer anywhere online. I always thought that silicone based can only be used with silicone based products etc.

Please, if you could explain to me and also give me ideas/suggestions on primer/foundation combo for oil based and water based as well?

Thanks!

Aug 12 14 11:42 pm Link

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KDM

Posts: 373

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Cool thread

Aug 18 14 06:12 pm Link

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Ronnie D

Posts: 19

Austin, Texas, US

Any suggestions for mature skin in terms of primer/foundation combos? I plan to get RCMA palette and MUFE f&b, will either of these do well? I have Smashbox oil free, mufe hd primer, and laura mercier moisturizing primer.

Aug 25 14 06:50 pm Link

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ArtistryImage

Posts: 3091

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Ronnie D wrote:
Any suggestions for mature skin in terms of primer/foundation combos? I plan to get RCMA palette and MUFE f&b, will either of these do well? I have Smashbox oil free, mufe hd primer, and laura mercier moisturizing primer.

Ronnie I prefer RCMA for mature skin in as it is capable of a spackling effect... i.e. can fill pores/wrinkles somewhat which airbrush TEMPTU isn't best for.. Be certain to use an oil based primer first to prepare the skin... allow 5 to 10 minutes for the primer to do it's magic...

RCMA is oft thinned... I prefer their thinner...  which Mary carries at CRC...

However other oil base thinners may work also... but do you really want to do product testing? 

Used straight RCMA is highly pigmented and has a rather stiff slip and glide... might start out thinning it till you get the feel of applying it... hope this makes sense...

Oh, please be certain to set it with a matte powder otherwise it might "move" on the face...

btw... there is mention in this thread earlier about having product not adhere to the client's skin...  yep, if their face has had micro abrasion, an acid peel or such you will be hating life dealing with this issue...  I've had serious issues with brides who decide at the last minute they need a facial skin "makeover"  this is definitely not a wonderful thing for dealing with applying traditional makeup... An appropriate solution here is to airbrush product on... Note: Sometimes a course of antibiotics with do the same thing... might be wise to ask a new client if they are taking medication... if so airbrush becomes my default...

Hope this helps...
yep, great thread...

all the best...

Aug 25 14 07:33 pm Link

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Ashley Langston MUA

Posts: 13

Pleasanton, California, US

Narrowing down your perfect foundation across different mediums (photography, film, etc) is definitely an experience.  So far, the foundations I reach for the most are:

RCMA (love, love, love for both photography and film)
MUFE HD Foundation (works great for both photography and film)
MAC F&B (great for photography, but I'm iffy about it when it comes to film)
Black Opal Foundation Sticks (great for darker skin tones for print and film)

In regard to the MAC F&B, I'm iffy about it because while I've used it for one film with success, I had a commercial shoot in which the foundation color I used on one actress (I used the color C2) seemed slightly off on camera.  For some reason, the foundation had a very very slight green tinge.  You could only see it when the frame was zoomed all the way in. I talked to the DP about it, and he mentioned that it could be because of he type of camera used (RED Epic cam) or the lighting that makes the foundation look that way.  I've decided to stick to MUFE HD and RCMA for now for film/commercial work and keep MAC F&B in my arsenal for print.

Sep 25 14 04:23 pm Link

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SherryHarkisan

Posts: 41

Leicester, England, United Kingdom

loving this thread. I need to catch up properly in my spare time if i have missed anything... but wondering if anyone has any recomendations on setting powders? I have a small palette in my starter kit but i need to replace it and also the shade range isnt great in there... I have translucent but what about powders that add a little extra coverage? I have heard ben nye loose powders r popular but I am after a pressed powder preferably. However if the loose powders are better then obviously I would get loose?

Oct 01 14 02:33 am Link

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Ashley Langston MUA

Posts: 13

Pleasanton, California, US

SherryHarkisan wrote:
loving this thread. I need to catch up properly in my spare time if i have missed anything... but wondering if anyone has any recomendations on setting powders? I have a small palette in my starter kit but i need to replace it and also the shade range isnt great in there... I have translucent but what about powders that add a little extra coverage? I have heard ben nye loose powders r popular but I am after a pressed powder preferably. However if the loose powders are better then obviously I would get loose?

Pressed powders with a bit of color? From my experience:

-Stila Sheer Pressed Powder
-MAC Select Sheer Pressed Powder

I have heard good things about Graftobian's pressed powders as well.

Oct 01 14 09:37 am Link

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SherryHarkisan

Posts: 41

Leicester, England, United Kingdom

Ashley Langston MUA wrote:
Pressed powders with a bit of color? From my experience:

-Stila Sheer Pressed Powder
-MAC Select Sheer Pressed Powder

I have heard good things about Graftobian's pressed powders as well.

Brilliant Thank you!#

Also my contribution to the foundation thread itself! If no one else has mentioned it!... Kryolan TV paint sticks! They photograph brilliantly and are excellent for party looks and photography.... I tend to sheer it out a little with a beauty blender or damp sponges for a natural flawless finish smile

Oct 02 14 09:18 am Link