LizW_Makeup wrote:
You have a website, presumably they've seen it if they contacted you. So, why do they need you to send photos?

EDIT: Oh. Here's why (from their website):

Content


You may contribute to the site in a number of different ways, including writing reviews, uploading photos, and rating other users' contributions (your "Content"). We may use your Content in a number of different ways, including displaying it on the site, reformatting it, incorporating it into advertisements and other works, creating derivative works from it, promoting it and distributing it, allowing others to do the same in connection with their own websites and media platforms ("Other Media"). As such, you hereby irrevocably grant us permission to use your Content for any purpose. You also irrevocably grant the site's users and the users of any Other Media the right to access your Content in connection with their use of the Site and any Other Media. Finally, you irrevocably waive, and cause to be waived, any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your Content.

For those who don't speak legal: you essentially license them the right to use the photos in any which way they please.

The problem is, and if they do decide to f*ck you with that, that the rights generally belong to the photographer, and they are the only people who can sub-license, unless otherwise specified in paperwork signed for the photo shoots.

Daniel FOTOgrafie wrote:
The problem is, and if they do decide to f*ck you with that, that the rights generally belong to the photographer, and they are the only people who can sub-license, unless otherwise specified in paperwork signed for the photo shoots.

Is this the case in the UK as well?

But in THAT case, read on - the site cleverly releases itself from liability. The contributor is the one held responsible for the content. So, if the photographer were to contest the commercial use of their images, guess who would be on the hook?

I suspect they are just content-farming, and by sending them images, you'd be implicitly giving them permission to use them as they wished. And as red flags go, the fact that the main content on the (cheap, easily created for free in minutes) site is a bunch of liability waivers... well, yes, I think it would be safest to assume this is a scam.

The Beauty Artist wrote:
The email doesn't "scream" scam to me-the lady writing it seems fairly well spoken and professional. However the whole photo rights thing to me is a bit sketchy.

Personally I would respond to the email initially with my day rate and a link to my website. If she responded back that she needed actual image files sent to her I would either A) tell her that you can't without the photographers permission in writing, or B) send extremely extremely low res watermarked images. Also I would question her on the need for actual photos. If she claims to need them for promotional purposes for the site I would reiterate that you need the photographers permission. Typically anyone who is being shady would back-off at this point.

I'm confused as to why you would even reply after all the things that Liz W pointed out.

OP the first red flag is the generic email that doesn't even include your name.  Second,
if someone needs to see your work then point them in the direction of your website.

Natalie Cardona wrote:

I'm confused as to why you would even reply after all the things that Liz W pointed out.

OP the first red flag is the generic email that doesn't even include your name.  Second,
if someone needs to see your work then point them in the direction of your website.

Wow.. ok.. I replied because that's how I felt about the OP's original post. I'm sorry that it's not kosher in your eyes to post after someone else's opinion (even though I respect liz's very much).. I read Liz's post and was replying based on the fact the disclaimer on their website was via uploads there, not what the person emailing her had requested (meaning just because you email a person images doesn't give them usage on their site.. uploading via their site and clicking "ok" to their terms would)... even though I did agree that sending images wasn't a good idea. It was just a general piece of advice I was giving for that type of situation. Also when dealing with people like that I prefer to speak to them long enough to figure out if that is what and why they are even requesting the information from me. I'm also confused as to why you care what I posted lol.

End point is I also agree with Liz. I was replying from my iphone safari browser and perhaps didn't read everything throughly or perhaps it sounded repetitive. However, you don't need to be rude. Thanks..

LizW_Makeup wrote:
You have a website, presumably they've seen it if they contacted you. So, why do they need you to send photos?

EDIT: Oh. Here's why (from their website):

Content


You may contribute to the site in a number of different ways, including writing reviews, uploading photos, and rating other users' contributions (your "Content"). We may use your Content in a number of different ways, including displaying it on the site, reformatting it, incorporating it into advertisements and other works, creating derivative works from it, promoting it and distributing it, allowing others to do the same in connection with their own websites and media platforms ("Other Media"). As such, you hereby irrevocably grant us permission to use your Content for any purpose. You also irrevocably grant the site's users and the users of any Other Media the right to access your Content in connection with their use of the Site and any Other Media. Finally, you irrevocably waive, and cause to be waived, any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your Content.

Wow!!! I didnt even see that. I dont own the rights to the photos and even if i did, i wouldnt send them to that site!!!

LizW_Makeup wrote:
For the record, I'm not offended if people post after me or reiterate something or whatever. I'm just glad what I said was useful.

I know Liz- I wasn't directing the reply I left for you. You always give great useful advice

EmElle Makeup and Hair wrote:
Well, Kristen, I just got the Lariche one too.  And you and I are on opposite coasts.  That will be one hectic shoot, to be in our states in 3 weeks time.

LOL!

liz yu wrote:
do not send them images.  tell them to go to your website if they want to see your work.

it's a scam, just a different type.  they are getting you to give them something that is not yours to give.  and when all hell breaks loose, you will be the one in trouble, not them.

Agreed - Agreed - Agreed ------ oh, did i say AGREED?

Bottom line - Listen to Liz.

The Beauty Artist wrote:
Wow.. ok.. I replied because that's how I felt about the OP's original post. I'm sorry that it's not kosher in your eyes to post after someone else's opinion (even though I respect liz's very much).. I read Liz's post and was replying based on the fact the disclaimer on their website was via uploads there, not what the person emailing her had requested (meaning just because you email a person images doesn't give them usage on their site.. uploading via their site and clicking "ok" to their terms would)... even though I did agree that sending images wasn't a good idea. It was just a general piece of advice I was giving for that type of situation. Also when dealing with people like that I prefer to speak to them long enough to figure out if that is what and why they are even requesting the information from me. I'm also confused as to why you care what I posted lol.

End point is I also agree with Liz. I was replying from my iphone safari browser and perhaps didn't read everything throughly or perhaps it sounded repetitive. However, you don't need to be rude. Thanks..

Hold on a second....let me reword....I didn't mean why you would reply to the OP, I meant why would you reply to the email. 
I would NEVER imply that you or anyone else not post their opinion.  I was only asking, given what LizW mentioned about the fine print (basically giving them permission to use the images), why would you be interested in replying to the email.  I was actually interested in hearing your reasons.

I should have explained that better the first time.  Sorry, it was not my intention to be rude.

Beauty by Natalie wrote:

Hold on a second....let me reword....I didn't mean why you would reply to the OP, I meant why would you reply to the email. 
I would NEVER imply that you or anyone else not post their opinion.  I was only asking, given what LizW mentioned about the fine print (basically giving them permission to use the images), why would you be interested in replying to the email.  I was actually interested in hearing your reasons.

I should have explained that better the first time.  Sorry, it was not my intention to be rude.

No worries, it sounds like it was a misunderstanding. Thanks for clarifying I appreciate it. Didn't mean to come across as overly defensive, I just get frustrated by the negative things that goes on in this forum especially when directed towards those just trying to give constructive advice.

LizW_Makeup wrote:
You have a website, presumably they've seen it if they contacted you. So, why do they need you to send photos?

EDIT: Oh. Here's why (from their website):

Content


You may contribute to the site in a number of different ways, including writing reviews, uploading photos, and rating other users' contributions (your "Content"). We may use your Content in a number of different ways, including displaying it on the site, reformatting it, incorporating it into advertisements and other works, creating derivative works from it, promoting it and distributing it, allowing others to do the same in connection with their own websites and media platforms ("Other Media"). As such, you hereby irrevocably grant us permission to use your Content for any purpose. You also irrevocably grant the site's users and the users of any Other Media the right to access your Content in connection with their use of the Site and any Other Media. Finally, you irrevocably waive, and cause to be waived, any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your Content.

That is called a "rights grab" and would put 'em on my brown-and-smelly list.

I do not know anything about the company or the offer they made you. I'm just not crazy about attempting to grab your photos that way.

EmElle Makeup and Hair wrote:
Well, Kristen, I just got the Lariche one too.  And you and I are on opposite coasts.  That will be one hectic shoot, to be in our states in 3 weeks time.

Okay this is weird, I got an email from that roland guy  and found this post...they were trying to book me for hair/makeup here in Las Vegas.  The mailed me an unsigned check for over $2800 dolla5rs.  I started googling EVEYTHING, the names, addresses, phone numbers, I started calling the numbers and then i googled the named on the return address from the fedex that the check came in and got this:  http://www.facebook.com/ismail.cole  SCARY!!!!

I think it's a money laundering scam.  BE CAREFUL, you guys...

Kristen S Makeup wrote:
I got one today too!  Let's see if we can point out the red flags:

Hello,

My name is Roland Stewart, media supervisor for Lariche Hair Cosmetics, UK. We have an up coming shoot for our new hair and body care products in your state. We have two selected models, we are looking for a reliable make up artist and nail technician to take part in the shoot. The shot will take place in three weeks time. Let me know you availability, your price, location and rates, do you charge per hour or by the assignment proper. I await your response.

Roland Stewart.
LARICHE HAIR COSMETICS
PO BOX 2093
SHOEBURYNESS
ESSEX SS3 9SH.

*No name.
*"in your state"
*3 weeks time.  Huh?  So is this 3 fridays from today, on the thursday, saturday?  How about an actual date?
*Let me know your....location.  Um, I thought the shoot was taking place "in my state."

I also googled this and it comes up as a possible scam email from this fall.  So even if I was keeping my fingers crossed it was for real (which obviously I'm not), the "three weeks time" doesn't add up to when the other people received the email.  And, the 2 email addresses listed for my new friend Roland are gmail.com and live.com accounts  (I couldn't get the whole email to copy, just the body).  If he was really with this LaRiche (which is a real company), he'd most likely have a [email protected] address.  Even though they are getting better at grammar and lining up the right crafts, they all seem to follow this basic pattern of vague dates, locations, and seldom address you directly.  When I get real emails from prospective new clients, they always include my name, the date and location of the shoot, and usually a reference to how they found me. 

Although, it's super tempting to reply to this with an outrageous rate and then send him the address of the postmaster general as my own like Mary has done. 

OMG  i got a similar message! I found this post while researching him LOL

Hello,

   Good day to you,  My name is Roland Stewart, shoot supervisor for Super Drug Stores PLC. We have an up coming shoot for our new hair and body care products in your state. We are looking for a reliable hairstylist, after viewing and making a research online, i came by your information and works you've done. We have two selected models, we are looking for a reliable Hair stylist to take part in the shoot by washing and setting their hair and also fix eyelashes. The shot will take place July 8 and 9th time. Let me know you availability, your price, location and rates, do you charge per hour or by the assignment proper. I await your response.

Roland Stewart.