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Kenya36G
Posts: 172
Chicago, Illinois, US
Hi All,
Hope you are keeping very well and are enjoying a lovely day!
Do those Models who shoot ''ADULT'' type work get good financial renumeration and plenty of work,with the ''promise'' of a glittering future , whilst being made a ''star'', or is it simply ''reasonable'' pay but very limited opportunities with a short career and over exposure?
Kindest of Regards xxxx
Kenya
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
It is not permitted to solicit for adult work on MM and anybody who does so will have their account removed, so I don't suppose you will get many replies to this thread. Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com
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Varton
Posts: 2755
New York, New York, US
I concur with Stefano. It is better to discuss Adult markets, modeling and pay rate issues in adult forums. There are zillions of them on the Internet and can be found in 3 seconds with a google search. Contact photographers through their web sites instead of MM framework, if their web site leans towards the adult genre. My 2 cents as well 
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Nemi
Posts: 27413
Jamaica, New York, US
That's a lot of quotes in one question.
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 26342
Portland, Oregon, US
I don't know, but I would guess...
... Like anything else, some do & some don't.
... Depends on the local supply & demand.
... Most of that market is in California, I think.
... Many try, some are successful, but most of the successful ones aren't
successful for long.
Why don't you ask the so-called "adult" models on MM and/or on other sites?
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MLRPhoto
Posts: 5766
Olivet, Michigan, US
Nemi wrote:
That's a lot of quotes in one question. Yeah. 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
If someone is "promising" you that they'll make you a "star" by offering you "adult" work, I would imagine it's a lie.
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Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 9421
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM
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Kenya36G
Posts: 172
Chicago, Illinois, US
Hi Stefano, I was not soliciting for work in anyway and am not on any other forums. It is just I get many emails, for some reason, telling me a ''fortune'' awaits if I were a Model who walked that path. I was simply curious if those Models / Photographers that are involved in that level of work, are glad they chose that path or if they had regrets. Kindest of Regards xxxx Kenya Stefano Brunesci wrote:
It is not permitted to solicit for adult work on MM and anybody who does so will have their account removed, so I don't suppose you will get many replies to this thread.
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com
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Fotographic Aspirations
Posts: 1966
Long Beach, California, US
Getting into a very slippery slope here.... If you ask a 60 y.o. mid-west housewife from Iowa what is " adult " she might say a simple nipple showing ! Ask a 20 year old in Venice Beach CA and the answer can be vastly different :-)
In NYC you can get a $ 50 burger, in SoCal $ 3.50 gets you a nice juicy In 'n Out Burger - values vary vastly depending on market !
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Blue Box Photography
Posts: 1178
Montville, New Jersey, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi Stefano,
I was not soliciting for work in anyway and am not on any other forums.
It is just I get many emails, for some reason, telling me a ''fortune'' awaits if I were a Model who walked that path. "For some reason"...?
I think you'll find the reason is related to the last three characters in your moniker 
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Rennab Nomad
Posts: 390
San Francisco, California, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM that.
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Rennab Nomad
Posts: 390
San Francisco, California, US
Looknsee Photography wrote:
.
... Like anything else, some do & some don't.
... Depends on the local supply & demand. that
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T A Y L O R
Posts: 2990
Seattle, Washington, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM +1
You're not going to get a down payment on a house doing one video (unless you meet someone who wants you specifically and is willing to pay for it), but it's good money if you treat it like a job where you have to work often to get good benefits.
I'm not in the adult business, but I used to be a dancer and I know plenty of girls who were. (I fully support it!)
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Eric Simard
Posts: 1083
Penticton, British Columbia, Canada
Nemi wrote:
That's a lot of quotes in one question. "I" "kinda" "agree" "with" "this."
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WMSimpson
Posts: 4
Grand Junction, Colorado, US
There are probably some that make more in a year than any ten of us posting now, but I'm sure the VAST majority are simply used a few times, realize it isn't worth it, and then go back to a normal job with some skeletons in their closet that might haunt them later.
Not saying adult work is wrong or anything, but I should think it would be one of those things that should be thought about from angles, including how you'll feel about your kids finding out about it.
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MLRPhoto
Posts: 5766
Olivet, Michigan, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM I don't shoot "adult" but if I can get a model who does "adult" for $88 a day, that's intriguing. She's probably going to be comfortable with anything I want to shoot.
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Lusty Gem
Posts: 44
San Antonio, Texas, US
Hello! So here is my two cents and that is probably all its worth I would have to say that it does depend upon what you think "adult" work is. I personally think that the human form is gorgeous and being nude is beautiful. I have also done implied erotic shoots and definetly had to draw my boundaries very quickly with what I think is ok and what is not. Anyone can do a hustler style, penetration shoot.... I personally do not think thats a good style for me. I wouldn't feel liberated and free if I did that as I do in my nudes. Thats what it is all about for me. Accepting me for me, and loving it
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Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi All,
Hope you are keeping very well and are enjoying a lovely day!
Do those Models who shoot ''ADULT'' type work get good financial renumeration and plenty of work,with the ''promise'' of a glittering future , whilst being made a ''star'', or is it simply ''reasonable'' pay but very limited opportunities with a short career and over exposure?
Kindest of Regards xxxx
Kenya What I bolded is the answer. Any exposure these people get they work very hard to maintain. There is no longer a lot of money in that type of work like there used to be, but people can live on it.
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Norman Gould
Posts: 3462
North Bend, Oregon, US
All of above, and the amount you might make is very dependent on your look, location and skills.
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Ian Worthington
Posts: 205
Portsmouth, England, United Kingdom
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
$88 - ... per day Really??
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 6688
Santa Monica, California, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
If someone is "promising" you that they'll make you a "star" by offering you "adult" work, I would imagine it's a lie. Whats a 'Star'?
Sounds suspicious by wording it that way.
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Digitoxin
Posts: 13456
Denver, Colorado, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi All,
Hope you are keeping very well and are enjoying a lovely day!
Do those Models who shoot ''ADULT'' type work get good financial renumeration and plenty of work,with the ''promise'' of a glittering future , whilst being made a ''star'', or is it simply ''reasonable'' pay but very limited opportunities with a short career and over exposure?
Kindest of Regards xxxx
Kenya I don't work in the Adult Business but, the answers to your questions are fairly straight forward:
1). Name me (in 10 sends or less) five female Hollywood movie stars who have appeared in a movie in the last two years.
2) do the same thing with male movie stars.
3) now, do the same thing with TV actors and actresses.
4) now do that with female porn stars
5) now male porn stars.
How many male porn stars could you name? Female?
How does that compare with Hollywood or tv stars?
As to money, you likely already have your answer above.
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Mgaphoto
Posts: 4982
San Diego, California, US
Stefano Brunesci wrote:
It is not permitted to solicit for adult work on MM and anybody who does so will have their account removed, so I don't suppose you will get many replies to this thread.
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com I think mm started that way but now its like whatever
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Fur Elise
Posts: 1814
Seattle, Washington, US
Blue Box Photography wrote:
"For some reason"...?
I think you'll find the reason is related to the last three characters in your moniker ^^
bewbz.
Edit: OP~ I know some models on mm that do adult work and they make very good monies at it. But it's all on you and what you feel is right for you. However to find adult work you should be looking on adult model sites. I myself do not know of any, but they are out there.
I have never liked the people who promise big things. I stay away from them. You should too.
Best of luck...
Oh I have a name idea if you'd like to hear it.
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
What I bolded is the answer. Any exposure these people get they work very hard to maintain. There is no longer a lot of money in that type of work like there used to be, but people can live on it. I think this is probably accurate. Everything from digital video equipment to website hosting fees to ecommerce fees is so cheap these days...made it really easy to oversaturate that market, real fast
My advice, not that you asked for it, is to consider your reasonable potential worth in terms of a traditional career that interests you. Now...take that, and compare it to some reasonable numbers that people in the know are reporting (here...elsewhere).
I think you'll see that the rewards are not worth the risk. I would say that, unless you absolutely want to pursue this as a passion you put your whole self into, don't bother. If you want to market yourself 24-7 and be a veritable porn star, then GO FOR IT
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Kenya36G
Posts: 172
Chicago, Illinois, US
Hi, Firstly, I have not written that I am looking to do it, secondly I do not see why there should be such prejudice on my Modelling name, it is a name nothing more and nothing less! There are people on here with the name Kenya and they may never have been there, should that stop them using that name? I hope my name is memorable, that is all. I guess the lead singer of the pop group The Police, was never a Bee, but his name "Sting" certainly made it memorable. I just asked a question out of curiosity to other people's views or experience. Kindest of Regards Kenya Fur Elise wrote:
^^
bewbz.
Edit: OP~ I know some models on mm that do adult work and they make very good monies at it. But it's all on you and what you feel is right for you. However to find adult work you should be looking on adult model sites. I myself do not know of any, but they are out there.
I have never liked the people who promise big things. I stay away from them. You should too.
Best of luck...
Oh I have a name idea if you'd like to hear it.
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi,
Firstly, I have not written that I am looking to do it, secondly I do not see why there should be such prejudice on my Modelling name, it is a name nothing more and nothing less! There are people on here with the name Kenya and they may never have been there, should that stop them using that name?
I hope my name is memorable, that is all. I guess the lead singer of the pop group The Police, was never a Bee, but his name "Sting" certainly made it memorable.
I just asked a question out of curiosity to other people's views or experience.
Kindest of Regards
Kenya What a senselessly snotty reply. People have been responding thoughtfully to your question. Though some have made presumptions, none were judgmental.
Also, if you're gonna smash your boobs together in photos that crop out your face and body, AND reference a bra size in your name, you can't really be upset if people see a connection...
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi,
Firstly, I have not written that I am looking to do it, secondly I do not see why there should be such prejudice on my Modelling name, it is a name nothing more and nothing less! There are people on here with the name Kenya and they may never have been there, should that stop them using that name?
I hope my name is memorable, that is all. I guess the lead singer of the pop group The Police, was never a Bee, but his name "Sting" certainly made it memorable.
I just asked a question out of curiosity to other people's views or experience.
Kindest of Regards
Kenya
You.....
missed the point.
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
In other news...people at work call me Muffy McDiver
...HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST I DO LESBIAN PORN!!!
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Kenya36G
Posts: 172
Chicago, Illinois, US
Hi, Not upset at all and was not a "snotty" reply. I just do not judge people or seek to tell them what they should call themselves. I have received many sarcastic replies, especially from models, when I post threads. Kindes of Regards xxxx Kenya nexiste plus wrote:
What a senselessly snotty reply. People have been responding thoughtfully to your question. Though some have made presumptions, none were judgmental.
Also, if you're gonna smash your boobs together in photos that crop out your face and body, AND reference a bra size in your name, you can't really be upset if people see a connection...
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi,
Not upset at all and was not a "snotty" reply. I just do not judge people or seek to tell them what they should call themselves.
I have received many sarcastic replies, especially from models, when I post threads.
Kindes of Regards xxxx
Kenya I didn't think anyone was being judgmental. It's your name, to use as you see fit. Shit, market what ya got. You won't get any complaints here. I just don't think you should be surprised and / or offended if people read your name and think of you in terms of glamour and adult work instead of...say...portraiture and figure nudes.
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Fur Elise
Posts: 1814
Seattle, Washington, US
kenya36G wrote:
Hi,
Not upset at all and was not a "snotty" reply. I just do not judge people or seek to tell them what they should call themselves.
I have received many sarcastic replies, especially from models, when I post threads.
Kindes of Regards xxxx
Kenya Actually you did get quite snarky. But you know what, that's okay. I however was not getting brassy with you. But if you want to give me that energy so be it. I can't change your mind... or can I???? >_>
Nothing in my response was saying anything judgemental. You assume I have an issue with the adult business? I surely do not.
Everybody faps man.
Now, your posed question is asking about the adult industry. I answered the question to the best of my knowledge.
I wasn't judging your name...Your name says your tit size in it. Just say'n. If I went Elise34E what would be the main type of people contacting me? Prolly crazed boobie maniacs. It's all in how you want that first foot thru the door of first impressions to look. You can have your name any way you want it... The name change was actually a beautiful name that you inspired in my head. Now... I'm not going to tell you. So... Neah. 
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cameryn coxxx
Posts: 369
Delray Beach, Florida, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM +1
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Black Lace Photo
Posts: 134
Issaquah, Washington, US
nexiste plus wrote:
...Everything from digital video equipment to website hosting fees to ecommerce fees is so cheap these days...made it really easy to oversaturate that market, real fast... That^^^ plus there is a global recession going on. I'd imagine there's a lot more new "talent" trying to get into that line of work which is going to cause an oversupply that further erodes rates. Doesn't sound like the best career move to me.
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No One of Consequence
Posts: 2980
Winchester, Virginia, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I work with a lot of MM models that do 'adult work'.
Most make a decent living, some do even better.
Some of the beginning models that specialize in shooting explicit photos for GWC's make between 2k and 3k per month. They book 3 or 4 shoots a week.
Models that are more established and work for internet or video companies can do double that. Some have day rates of $88 - $1,800 per day depending upon what they are booked to do.
These are numbers that I have observed amongst models that I have known for extended periods of time and are not just a fluke month here or there.
KM Thanks again, Ken, for sharing your vast amount of real world knowledge with the rest of us You're one of the reasons I love this site.
The math geek in me can't help but tear into those numbers...
Lower Bound: 2000 per month / 4.3 weeks per month / 4 shoots per week = $116.28 per shoot
Upper Bound: 3000 per month / 4.3 weeks per month / 3 shoots per week = $232.56 per shoot
So, rounding up... shoot rates are $125 - $250 for beginners, $250 - $500 for more experienced performers.
Fascinating.
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Clyph wrote:
Thanks again, Ken, for sharing your vast amount of real world knowledge with the rest of us You're one of the reasons I love this site.
The math geek in me can't help but tear into those numbers...
Lower Bound: 2000 per month / 4.3 weeks per month / 4 shoots per week = $116.28 per shoot
Upper Bound: 3000 per month / 4.3 weeks per month / 3 shoots per week = $232.56 per shoot
So, rounding up... shoot rates are $125 - $250 for beginners, $250 - $500 for more experienced performers.
Fascinating. To put it in perspective, at the upper bound, thats 36k per year. Lower than per capita income in most / many states
certainly lower than the national average...
Would you fuck on camera to make less money than the average person? I think exotic dancers make out a lot better than that.
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Fur Elise
Posts: 1814
Seattle, Washington, US
nexiste plus wrote:
To put it in perspective, at the upper bound, thats 36k per year. Lower than per capita income in most / many states
certainly lower than the national average...
Would you fuck on camera to make less money than the average person? I think exotic dancers make out a lot better than that. Indeed.
None of the adult models I've known have made so little.
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Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Black Lace Photo wrote:
I'd imagine there's a lot more new "talent" trying to get into that line of work which is going to cause an oversupply that further erodes rates. I know, for a fact, there are 18- and 20-year-old girls in my region, who are doing explicit video content for as little as $35-$50 per hour. Compared to their day jobs at Starbucks, that is amazing money to them. They don't realize they are actually getting ripped off by people who want to exploit their ignorance of the industry. Unfortunately, this kind of thing over-saturates the market for erotic models, and people do not want to pay $500+ to a 25- or 30-year-old experienced model with a knowledge of that industry, when they can get an explicit scene with a barely legal girl for $100.
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nexiste plus
Posts: 7077
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Fur Elise wrote:
Indeed.
None of the adult models I've known have made so little. Good to hear. I was thinking those numbers seemed a bit low.
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I would have to say that it does depend upon what you think "adult" work is. I personally think that the human form is gorgeous and being nude is beautiful. I have also done implied erotic shoots and definetly had to draw my boundaries very quickly with what I think is ok and what is not. Anyone can do a hustler style, penetration shoot.... I personally do not think thats a good style for me. I wouldn't feel liberated and free if I did that as I do in my nudes. Thats what it is all about for me. Accepting me for me, and loving it
