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myfotographer
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Fresno, California, US


Final update. I will be stuck in LA tonight curtesy of an incompetent airline. Kevin Clark has graciously agreed to host untill i get there. The optional 9 AM tour is cancelled. Minors must arrive with a parent that can sign a release. Have fun.

Update 3-30-2012. We're going to chock full of talented people. I'm so excited about the wonderful images that will be created. I've received many messages asking about the weather. (We had the same thing last year, but ended up with a great day). I am hoping that is the case this year. I had asked people to hold a future day open just in case - and ended up using it as pinup madness.

Current forcast is 50% on Saturday and 30% on Sunday (showers not rain).

We will be moving the main area to under the RR track just to the Left of the fence hole. Look for the changing booths and the young beautiful ladies with the old guys with cameras. ;-)

I shot Shannon here last Saturday. It is gorgous and full of potential.

I am also getting lots of messages like "I'd really like to come, but you moved it from a sunday to a saturday and I can't do that & I'm booked that day"

So, we're going to extend the event and include Sunday. That's right Spring Fever 3 is now March 31 & April 1 with the same times and location.

For those of you traveling a long distance (over 150 miles) and are on the fence about the drive. If you don't mind sharing a hotel room, I'll provide a few. PM me your request and see me at the event for details.

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This event is only open to MM members. You must have an active MM account in order to attend. It does not require a formal invitation. If you plan to attend, you must RSVP via a PM to me in advance

Date: March 31, 2012 & April 1, 2012

Last year we had a GORGEOUS day. I expect that same this year.

Time:

The shooting will start at 10:00AM and will continue until 7:30PM.

You do not have to be there fo the whole time. Come and go as you must. Naturally, the longer you are there, the more time you'll have to create.

There are two additional optional events.

9:00AM-10:00AM - I will be offering an ad hoc how to get the best shots out of this location tour. It is for everyone that wants tips - we'll talk about lighting, focal lengths, color balance, locations, and whatever else you want to talk about.

7:30PM to whenever - We'll be gathering at Me-N-Eds for pizza, drink and networking. You pay for you.

Me-N-Ed's is located here"

5374 West Spruce Avenue
Fresno, CA  93722

Cost:

You have to get there and you should get home on your own. How you do that is up to you.

No cash should change hands before, during or after the event. The only exception is that models are allowed to SELL a FULL Release.

This is TRADE. Photographers owe every model they shoot ONE image per look.

There will be a standand spring fever release available at sign in. This release will allow you to use images only for self promotion.

I am not providing anything. Bring snacks so you can shoot through "meals". Bring fluids so you have something to drink. I will have water for those that forget.

Location:

There really is no physical address for an open field beside a river.

This is the closest real address you can use:

6115 Bluff Avenue
Fresno, CA.

Here are simple directions.

From the intersection of Herndon and Milburn, head North.
(From CA-99 that is a Left - From CA-41 that is a Right)

Turn Left on Alluvial.

Go straight through two 4-way stops signs.

Alluvial will vear Right twice. About midway through the second vear turn Left

There is a forced Right.

Followed by an immediate Left. 

Park someplace legal. Do not block driverways or fire hydrants and be respectful of property owners. Than follow the concrete path to the fence. Last year, someone blocked the fire entrance and was ticketed.

Find the gap in the fence and hike down.

Congratulations, you're at Spring Fever 3. Look for a collection of portable shade makers by one of the RR trestles. That is "base". Go there to sign in, get your gear/wardrobe situated and get busy.

I'll be wearing a hideous tie dye t-shirt that I am pretty sure nobody else has IF you need me.

RSVP:

Please tell me that you're coming. I will start four follow up replys so everyone knows who is coming. I will keep it updated until midnight the night before. If somethine comes up - PLEASE - tell me so I can remove you from the list.

You DO NOT want to miss this.

Useful Information:

This is NOT a commercial shoot. This is a bunch of talented people that just happen to be at the same place at the same time because they are passionate about being involved in the creation of great images. If you're asked what is going on by somebody - Do not say anything that implies professional or commerical. We're just playing. ;-)

To that point, this is not my event, it is yours. Spring Fever 3 will be what the community puts into it. It needs your help.

This is nature. There are things that could hurt you, bite or kill you. Be careful.

Despite the forcast, bring something to keep your stuff dry with. Maybe bring a change of clothes and towels just in case you get wet. Even the models should bring sturdy shoes to get around in and than change into shoot shoes when they get to a spot. It may be cool. Bring a light jacket, sweatshirt etc.

Please treat everyone with respect. Especially, those that live nearby. It is not uncommon for the neighborhood kids to wander through. If you're shooting anything "controversial" - nudes in particular - but including implied, sheers, lingerie, etc. Be careful you are doing so at your own risk. If there are complaints, our friends may not be nice.

Remember, there will be minor models working. Some very talented. The minor models will have parents in attendance. We don't want to scare them off either.

Please take out of Spring Fever 3 what you brought in. That may seem obvious, but last year we had lots wardrobe left behind and two trips worth of "trash" hauled up.

We're all there for the sole purpose of creating. Help each other whenever possible.

Use this time to play. This is the ideal time to try new things and experiment on both sides of the camera. Models should shoot with photographers with styles other than what they are used to just as photographers should shoot models with looks that wouldn't normally shoot. That is how your grow!

My personal goal is to shoot every model there.

I've been asked about props. You can bring anything LEGAL to the event. The standard I'd use is appropriate for a large group event. I wouldn't bring anything overly valuable, fragile, or that I'd cry to much if it was ruined somehow.

I do group shoots often as I happen to love what they offer. I am a shy person. I do not normally walk up to people and introduce myself, etc. If you are like me, PLEASE come out of your shell and act not shy. Open mouths get fed. If you hide, you won't shoot/be shot. You MUST be active.

If you're a model, do not let photographers stand around - ask them to shoot you. If you're a photographer, do not let a model stand around - ask them to shoot with you. SHOOT.

With trade shoots, time is money. You are there to SHOOT. Networking is nice, but you can't post networking on your portfolio's. If you really like working together - set up other shoots for later. Me N Eds after the shoot = networking time.

Photographers:

Please respect our models. Do not ask them to shoot anything outside of their comfort levels or do anything that would make them uncomfortable.

You owe every model you shoot ONE edited image of every LOOK you shoot. It is going to be great to have ONE place to go for images.

It is your responsibility to keep track of who you shoot with. Do not be offended if a model is also keeping track of who shoots her.

If a photographer is working with a model, please don't interrupt them. I have no personal issue with people overshooting. You're welcome to shoot with me as long as you don't shoot in front of me (block my shot) or direct my model. Not all photographers are this understanding. If you want to overshoot - ask first.

(as the host, I may walk around and overshoot one or two images - usually for background - Deborah Conners (a great friend of mine) is really good at busting me in action).

If you need help ask - if you're asked for help - please help. We are there to grow.

It may be a little late for this, but if you've been thinking about new gear or renting/borrowing gear. This is THE TIME.

Bring all the gear you might want to use. You are responsible for keeping track of it. You can't use it if you didn't bring it. Portable lighting - flash and plenty of batteries would be good. Reflectors are good. Natural light is good.

Models:

You DO NOT have to do anything you don't want to do. If you feel pushed find me. Two complaints and someone is going home.

You should come shoot ready - hair and makeup done. You can change here. There will be a collection of changing booths (private) for you. We'll have ropes you can hang stuff up in under the portable shade.

I hope to have hair and makeup available. I will list them below. If you want to use them, set up times and themes in advance.

Please keep track of your wardrobe and personal belonging. You are responsible. Models often share wardrobe, please treat other people stuff with respect and return it.

I've been asked a lot about wardrobe. The short answer is bring everything. The practical answer is bring everything that you might want to shoot in this location. Bring items that are versatile and have broad use. Your wardrobe should span your comfort level. IE Formal, casual, creative, swimwear, lingerie, etc. EXPERIMENT.

Make sure whatever you bring fits you very well and that you're comfortable wearing it. The grass is GREEN the sky is BLUE - some of your wardrobe should compliment those colors. Try for things that contrast - warm color on you agains cool colored backgrounds and vice versa.

I encourage you to think about ways to dress that will get you noticed. I don't mean sexy, although you can do that too, but rather that takes advantage of where you are. Watch my great friend, Kandi, for an example. Put together looks that the photographers are going to want to capture.

Bring something like a robe that you can cover up with quickly if needed. It may be chilly so good warm ups or even a coat might be a good idea. Pace yourself so you stay comfortable.

I want models to leave with MANY different images. You control the wardrobe - Work with as many photogrpahers as you can. Budget your time. Try not to be "hogged". 15 minutes is more than enough time to get great shots. Move along. Change your look very often - every 30-60 minutes.

We have the full range of models. Some are very experienced to very new. As in very first shoot new. Please support and help each other.
Jan 08 12 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


Models:

Shyann Caudel

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120101/13/4f00d56d8bec9_m.jpg

Angry Princess AKA Sarah

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110422/00/4db127e2367a1_m.jpg

Stacie Lyn

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/101117/14/4ce4561661e95_m.jpg

TriciB

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090220/22/499f9b90bdbe0_m.jpg

Joylyn

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/23/4be5054bbc618_m.jpg

Carmen Luisa

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100426/18/4bd637cb4b55e_m.jpg

April Yoshida

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110505/14/4dc3147f9cce4_m.jpg

Amanda Arsenic

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111216/17/4eebeec046af9_m.jpg

Natty Gurl

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091224/21/4b34538b945e3_m.jpg

Jynna

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110126/02/4d3ff32a293a5_m.jpg

Rene Bugatti

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/101107/17/4cd74dae284c5_m.jpg

Jessie James Hollywood

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110804/15/4e3b1c7fe0cbf_m.jpg

Kristianna Kathleen

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110512/13/4dcc421999304_m.jpg

Kalia

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110411/22/4da3e6eb11950_m.jpg

Taliau Afalava

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120118/21/4f17a62dd5f95_m.jpg

Linda Stubbs

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100122/09/4b59d9ead2494_m.jpg

Anissa Flores

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110313/21/4d7d9cb926e03_m.jpg

Lizett

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111227/22/4efabbea8ff44_m.jpg

Miss Roxxi Lu

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120130/15/4f2721f406f28_m.jpg

Jennifer Ann Star

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120122/19/4f1ccfa7d94e7_m.jpg

Charissa Phene

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120228/12/4f4d362fa640a_m.jpg

A M A N D A J

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120303/11/4f5274496f5b6_m.jpg

mizzchanel

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110929/10/4e84acb3c08aa_m.jpg

Sarah-Rochelle

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110711/11/4e1b463b6f66f_m.jpg

Ian Aylmer

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120308/20/4f5986546cdaf_m.jpg

Lalombriz

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120312/21/4f5ed24a30d9c_m.jpg

Leo White

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120317/03/4f646ac957244_m.jpg

Corin Renee

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120306/00/4f55c571a74b7_m.jpg

Lady-Mae

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120202/20/4f2b67522b03b_m.jpg

Melinda Mello

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120319/23/4f6828bccc97b_m.jpg

Deja Ramirez

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120315/14/4f6258922522f_m.jpg

Kandi Queen

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111208/15/4ee142c856390_m.jpg

Miss Pryscylla

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120307/01/4f5726f475bdc_m.jpg

miss jessica elaine

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120229/19/4f4eea6e3fc03_m.jpg

Melanie Sothavy's

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110529/11/4de2931b29505_m.jpg

Precious Laura

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120329/22/4f754b8696f4d_m.jpg

Your name goes here!
Jan 08 12 07:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


Photographers:

Myfotographer AKA Ed Stevenson
http://www.modelmayhem.com/113014

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/081115/03/491e836a449e4_m.jpg

Sprinkles Photography AKA Tori
http://www.modelmayhem.com/726010

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080526/20/483b58b882c87_m.jpg

Central Valley Images AKA Tom
http://www.modelmayhem.com/2324365

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110811/17/4e446f6c21c41_m.jpg


Kens Photos

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/101226/07/4d175f06c0038_m.jpg

Diana Walla

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120106/00/4f06b7769d229_m.jpg

Vintagephotosbyjoe

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111121/12/4ecab2d013116_m.jpg

Carraways Photography - Wil

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110814/20/4e48914caf2fa_m.jpg

Rob Barbery Photography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111129/18/4ed599ec56a47_m.jpg

McKee Photography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110616/17/4dfaa5b1b1cad_m.jpg

Mister 6t4 Creations

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100129/10/4b63302119424_m.jpg

Taz IMG

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100928/20/4ca2b1afe2947_m.jpg

Flawless Vixen - Jeff

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111206/11/4ede704d49c26_m.jpg

Suspended Animation

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110330/00/4d92dd629a180_m.jpg

Art by Lyndon

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110328/19/4d914a055494c_m.jpg

Steve Barton

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110706/17/4e14f78c2f9ca_m.jpg

Lasher Photography - Sal

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100425/03/4bd41ef8ab42d_m.jpg

Garvin Photography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090529/10/4a201e7b33f1a_m.jpg

Coetography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110522/03/4dd8e6e4637bf_m.jpg

Awesome Headshots

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110120/13/4d38a2fc1eb4a_m.jpg

J Victoria Exposures

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110316/21/4d8187c7c58ba_m.jpg

Light and Focus

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111223/11/4ef4d77a4e207_m.jpg

Eric Collette

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110215/17/4d5b296500195_m.jpg

SFR Photos

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100726/18/4c4e31fd66c67_m.jpg

Galib

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111129/20/4ed5b638a7f3e_m.jpg

DCD Photos

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091027/23/4ae7e072ec260_m.jpg

Studio -R aka Rusty

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110508/15/4dc71e1b1c8ca_m.jpg

Rex Sanchez Photography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110516/15/4dd1a474c6292_m.jpg

Jenn Bischof

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120301/10/4f4fc1517065c_m.jpg

Tristan Mauger

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110801/19/4e3766b060f7a_m.jpg

Up to Parr Photography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110821/22/4e51e81a6afea_m.jpg

Royce A Davis

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120228/20/4f4da80f03ac4_m.jpg

Deborah Connors -dcgibs

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110328/02/4d905c1ea2c02_m.jpg

Ken Mex

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111023/13/4ea47ba46fee6_m.jpg

Victor Huerta Pro

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120320/01/4f6845993217c_m.jpg

HeatherMaeKPhotography

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120123/02/4f1d313c37ec7_m.jpg

Malachi Salado

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120320/20/4f694c3f90fcc_m.jpg

Window In Time aka Shane

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110406/21/4d9d425352caf_m.jpg

Elusive Moon - AKA Amanda

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120207/00/4f30e7e2cdef2_m.jpg

Nathan Frye

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/060122/22/43d46126e4661_m.jpg

Amanda Arsenic

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120314/13/4f60ffe713da2_m.jpg

Your name goes here!
Jan 08 12 07:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


Makeup:

Carmen will be there modeling. She has agreed to be available for touch ups. If you want her to do your makeup - please make arrangement before Spring Fever 3.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100223/23/4b84d5a1a3ffb_m.jpg


Akilah will there for touch ups when she isn't modeling.
Jan 08 12 07:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


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Jan 08 12 07:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Central Valley Images
Posts: 8
Fresno, California, US


I would love to be there ed, hope all is well with you.
Jan 08 12 07:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
startknightshoots
Posts: 53
Pomona, California, US


How far is Fresno from Pomona
Jan 09 12 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


startknightshoots wrote:
How far is Fresno from Pomona

Google maps say it is 246 miles.

We have had people travel from Los Angeles and San Fransisco to attend Spring Fever.

Jan 10 12 12:49 am  Link  Quote 
Model
AngryPrincess
Posts: 48
Fresno, California, US


Hey Ed!! I had a blast last year! I'm planning on coming again! smile I might be bringing a couple photographers with me, is that alright?
Jan 11 12 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kens Photos
Posts: 219
Visalia, California, US


Hey Ed been a long time I am putting this on my calender!
Jan 11 12 08:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brian Fischer
Posts: 612
San Luis Obispo, California, US


Hi Ed,

I had a good time at the shoot! Pizza as well.  Here are the links to the Jam people were asking about..

Brian





http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj.jpg

http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj1.jpg
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj2.jpg

http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj3
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj4.jpg
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj5.jpg
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj6.jpg
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj7
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj8
http://www.portfolio-jam.com/add/pj9
Jan 18 12 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
Model
TriciB
Posts: 5
Fremont, California, US


I would love to join you!
Jan 18 12 11:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rob Barbery Photography
Posts: 195
Clovis, California, US


Hey Ed,  I'd like to attend this event.  The first 2 were a blast, why not go for 3!
Jan 18 12 12:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Carraways Photography
Posts: 3
Charlotte, North Carolina, US


Hey Ed, l'm looking forward to this event...  take care my friend!!!
Jan 18 12 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
vintagephotosbyjoe
Posts: 1
Hanford, California, US


I would love to attend this event, count me in.
Jan 18 12 08:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
McKeePhotos
Posts: 17
Visalia, California, US


Val and I would like to attend.
Jan 19 12 12:46 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Taz IMG
Posts: 52
Oakland, California, US


I would love to join this Event!. However can I bring a guest that is not on MM? She will not be shooting or modeling more as a roadtrip company and assistaint.
Jan 19 12 11:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Joylyn
Posts: 1,769
Denver, Colorado, US


I hope to make it!
Jan 20 12 03:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Art by Lyndon
Posts: 9
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US


I'll be there, Ed. Thanks for putting it together again!
Jan 22 12 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Suspended Animation
Posts: 7
Clovis, California, US


Hi Ed,
Had a great time last year. Wouldn't miss this year, count me in!
Sean
Jan 22 12 08:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FlawlessVixen
Posts: 22
Fresno, California, US


Count me in Captain!
Jan 22 12 11:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lasher Photography
Posts: 10
Fresno, California, US


Just as always, I will be there.
Jan 24 12 02:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Garvin Photography
Posts: 1
Sacramento, California, US


Would like to come to the event.
Jamie B.
Garvin Photography
Jan 24 12 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Rene Bugatti
Posts: 259
Fresno, California, US


Hello BEAUTIFUL people,

I think spring Fever is an awesome idea and I'd love to be added to the model rooster.

This will be my 1st time doing somrthing like this and I'm excited to meet you all. smile
Jan 24 12 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


Garvin Photography wrote:
Would like to come to the event.
Jamie B.
Garvin Photography

You're on the list. I know you'll have a great time and will love this location.

Feel free to invite and bring down some of your favorite Sacremento area models.

Jan 24 12 07:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Coetography
Posts: 3
Fresno, California, US


Hey, Ed! Looking forward to joining everyone this year!
Jan 25 12 10:26 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jessie James Hollywood
Posts: 2
Fresno, California, US


Id be interested in joining Spring Fever 3. Thank you =]
Jan 25 12 10:28 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Anna PurDia
Posts: 1
Fresno, California, US


I would very much like to join in on the inevitable fun that will be taking place. Please and Thank You!
Jan 26 12 02:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Light in Focus
Posts: 4
Fresno, California, US


Would love to be there! what a great opportunity to meet the MM people of Fresno and surrounds.
Feb 01 12 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photography by Roney
Posts: 280
Salinas, California, US


This sounds like one very awesome event! If it is still open to photographers, I would very much like to join the list of attending photographers.
Feb 12 12 09:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Galib Photography
Posts: 2
Sacramento, California, US


I would be interested to join too as a photographer.
Feb 13 12 11:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Roxxi Lu
Posts: 2
Visalia, California, US


Ed I would really like to be part of this event, please let me know if this is possible or not. Look forward to hearing back from you!


Roxxi Lu
Feb 18 12 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Studio-R
Posts: 1
Visalia, California, US


I am in, cant wait, c u there!!!
Feb 20 12 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TouchofEleganceStudios
Posts: 5,163
Upland, California, US


Oh no, they have Moderators from Fresno. Oh my goodness. In my day no one heard of Fresno. I know because I was born there. I have family there.  smile

I would be interested in coming but I need clarification on this "With trade shoots, time is money. You are there to SHOOT. Networking is nice, but you can't post networking on your portfolio's." I agree that time is money and my time has value too. After all I would be driving more than 250 miles to the shoot. I have been at this for more than 7 years now and my portfolio shows it (I hope). My question here is why would I drive 250 miles or more to shoot with models that I cannot use the pics of in my portfolio when I am not profiting from it. That is the purpose of my going to these shoots, to get new pics to add to my portfolio. Then on top of that I have been paying good money getting retouching of pics that I give the models a full size copy of FREE. I want to post the best pics possible so I do pay retouchers but the model benefits from it too.

Please, I am not trying to be negative but merely saying that I come to group shoots to get new pics to add to my portfolio.

note:

I am replying her instead of privately because I want models to understand that we photographers who are sincere only benefit as much as the model. On top of that I try to give each model several of the best pics that I get. And as I said several models whos pics that I select end up with professionally retouched pics at my expense.
Feb 23 12 09:27 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Joylyn
Posts: 1,769
Denver, Colorado, US


Step Above Photography wrote:
Oh no, they have Moderators from Fresno. Oh my goodness. In my day no one heard of Fresno. I know because I was born there. I have family there.  smile

I would be interested in coming but I need clarification on this "With trade shoots, time is money. You are there to SHOOT. Networking is nice, but you can't post networking on your portfolio's." I agree that time is money and my time has value too. After all I would be driving more than 250 miles to the shoot. I have been at this for more than 7 years now and my portfolio shows it (I hope). My question here is why would I drive 250 miles or more to shoot with models that I cannot use the pics of in my portfolio when I am not profiting from it. That is the purpose of my going to these shoots, to get new pics to add to my portfolio. Then on top of that I have been paying good money getting retouching of pics that I give the models a full size copy of FREE. I want to post the best pics possible so I do pay retouchers but the model benefits from it too.

Please, I am not trying to be negative but merely saying that I come to group shoots to get new pics to add to my portfolio.

note:

I am replying her instead of privately because I want models to understand that we photographers who are sincere only benefit as much as the model. On top of that I try to give each model several of the best pics that I get. And as I said several models whos pics that I select end up with professionally retouched pics at my expense.

Hey Ruben smile

I don't know how long it's been since you've been out this way, but a lot has changed just in the short time I've been here.

The reason you would drive 250 miles is the same reason I do, because you have decided that ultimately you will be getting something beneficial from it.  As stated in the details promotional releases will be available so that all talents involved will be able to use the pictures for their portfolios.  That is typically the main purpose of a trade event.  Everybody puts in what they want to get out of it.  Some people have more time than money, some people have better equipment or more expensive clothes, these events are to bring various types of talent together for the chance to find the ones you work well with.

Feb 23 12 01:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TouchofEleganceStudios
Posts: 5,163
Upland, California, US


Joylyn wrote:
Hey Ruben smile

I don't know how long it's been since you've been out this way, but a lot has changed just in the short time I've been here.

The reason you would drive 250 miles is the same reason I do, because you have decided that ultimately you will be getting something beneficial from it.  As stated in the details promotional releases will be available so that all talents involved will be able to use the pictures for their portfolios.  That is typically the main purpose of a trade event.  Everybody puts in what they want to get out of it.  Some people have more time than money, some people have better equipment or more expensive clothes, these events are to bring various types of talent together for the chance to find the ones you work well with.

I agree Joylyn. We all ultimately benefit from it. And that is exactly what I am saying. We all benefit from it. It is posted as a "trade event". My question is simply in reference to "you can't post networking on your portfolio's." If I cannot use the pics that I shoot then why would I want to shoot them. That is all that I am saying. Again, I am not trying to be arguementive. Unless releases are available without a need to pay for a release. My  point is if it is a trade event then I should not have to pay separately for a release.

Feb 23 12 05:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
myfotographer
Posts: 3,375
Fresno, California, US


Step Above Photography wrote:
I would be interested in coming but I need clarification on this "With trade shoots, time is money. You are there to SHOOT. Networking is nice, but you can't post networking on your portfolio's."

We'd love to have you at Spring Fever 3.

You can use the images you take for self promotion. A trade release is free. You have the option to purchase a full release from a model, or models, if you wish.

What I mean by "you can't post networking on your portfolio", is that if you attend and spend the day chatting -  you aren't going to have many photos to post anywhere because you simply didn't take many.

On the other hand, if you shoot all day, you'll leave with many great photos, but may not have met people you would like to.

The real trick lies in finding the balance between networking and shooting. I met Joylyn years ago at a group event in LA. We've been in touch ever since. I have many great friends, models and photographers, from group events. Some, I shoot with regularly.

To assist in the networking, I encourage you to stick around for pizza and networking. That way you can meet and exchange information with talent.

We already have people confirmed from the bay area and LA. You might be able to carpool.

Feb 23 12 11:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Joylyn
Posts: 1,769
Denver, Colorado, US


Step Above Photography wrote:

I agree Joylyn. We all ultimately benefit from it. And that is exactly what I am saying. We all benefit from it. It is posted as a "trade event". My question is simply in reference to "you can't post networking on your portfolio's." If I cannot use the pics that I shoot then why would I want to shoot them. That is all that I am saying. Again, I am not trying to be arguementive. Unless releases are available without a need to pay for a release. My  point is if it is a trade event then I should not have to pay separately for a release.

Ohhh, I see where you got confused, I always forget humor or tone don't always come through in print.  smile 

For years you've called me your favorite Bakersfield model, but now you have a chance to give all the girls in the area fair chance at being your favorite.  You'll need a new one soon, especially if I keep hiding behind the camera you gave me which has captured a few decent shots wink

Feb 23 12 11:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TouchofEleganceStudios
Posts: 5,163
Upland, California, US


Joylyn wrote:

Ohhh, I see where you got confused, I always forget humor or tone don't always come through in print.  smile 

For years you've called me your favorite Bakersfield model, but now you have a chance to give all the girls in the area fair chance at being your favorite.  You'll need a new one soon, especially if I keep hiding behind the camera you gave me which has captured a few decent shots wink

What? I don't remember calling you my favorite model. When did I say that? (Okay, now that you got up off the floor I was just kidding. You are still my favorite model). I am a brat aren't I.

And for you models out there don't tell Joylyn if I tell you that you are my favorite model.   smile

Feb 24 12 07:15 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jennifer Ann Star
Posts: 4
Fresno, California, US


Hey Ed!! Long time no see!! I would love to come!
Feb 24 12 08:40 am  Link  Quote 
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