Robert Sawin wrote:

Look it up on youtube.  It is a joke.

Duh, I know. It's old.

IDiivil wrote:

Not sure if I have any "under the breast" area I've tried to wear multiple push up bras and the like with no luck. I can push them up manually by hand, but it requires a lot of force to actually make it look like I have cleavage. I think if I can find a properly fitted bra as opposed to your Victoria's Secrets and whatnot, I might be able to find one that works, but... need to figure out if there is a place in my Bowling Green, Ohio area that does that.

The only time I can really pull off the cleavage look otherwise is if I have some awesome lighting going on... like in some of my photos.

I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

Why.  WHY!! I get women need to feel more like women by having bigger breast.  But I can't for the love of God figure out why its so hard for some gals to be satisfied which there own boobs. 

One thing I can tell you Christen is that if you try to change your breast size then you are changing the class of men who only like that size.  there are billions of men out there with different taste for women.  You fit a class of women men only dream about.  I think the first step is loving your body the way it is.  Its clear there are many men out there who find you attractive.  You are even dating one for goodness sake.  and I am sure he would not want you to change any thing about you.  Enjoy your body in your youth.  and only worry about the ones that you wanna share your body with.  Because at the end of the day if you try pleasing every ones expectations your self image will become so grossly distorted its not even funny.

Trust me I know how you feel.  I feel the same way about my own body.  For some reason its hard for me to get past the idea of sharing my body with another women because I can't seem to be satisfied with what my body is.

It will take time.  has nothing to do with growing a thicker skin.  You are already in a business that is critical of the way you are and look.  so I am sure its hard enough to keep that positive outlook for the way your body looks all the time. 

Its taken me many years just to get where I am confidence wise.  High school was just torment seriously.  If I went back I'd probably have the confidence to pick up just about any chick I wanted now.  But thats because my self image is better then it used to be. 

Having a negative self image just slows you WAY down in life to the point where you are incapacitated to do normal everyday things.  Fear will always hold you back from living life as it was ment.  life is just too short to worry about the silly things.

Lovely Day Media wrote:
I understand that some women say bigger than X in length is painful and some get cancer, etc etc .... but given a choice between 6 inches (what a lot of women say is enough) and 10 inches, everyone will always go for the 10 inches ... men and every woman I've ever talked about this kind of thing with.

No.

I mean 10 inches just sounds ridiculous to me, wouldn't even know what to do with it.

JadeDRed wrote:

No.

I mean 10 inches just sounds ridiculous to me, wouldn't even know what to do with it.

Agreed most of my GFs I had when I mentioned my size all seemed to thing that would hurt.  especially asian women.  average depth of a women as around 5 - 4 inches.  any longer it would hurt.  and it takes time for a women to relax enough to get to the point where they can take something bigger.  so bigger is not always better.

Raaawr wrote:
I have a love/hate relationship with mine...

Yours = BEAUTIFUL

IDiivil wrote:

Not sure if I have any "under the breast" area I've tried to wear multiple push up bras and the like with no luck. I can push them up manually by hand, but it requires a lot of force to actually make it look like I have cleavage. I think if I can find a properly fitted bra as opposed to your Victoria's Secrets and whatnot, I might be able to find one that works, but... need to figure out if there is a place in my Bowling Green, Ohio area that does that.

The only time I can really pull off the cleavage look otherwise is if I have some awesome lighting going on... like in some of my photos.

I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

I'll love them for you.

Jessyka Ann Photography wrote:
I'll just love everyone's small boobies for them. Im okay with that

"Because they're big enough, they're perky enough, and dawgonnit people like them."

Lovely Day Media wrote:
.... but given a choice between 6 inches (what a lot of women say is enough) and 10 inches, everyone will always go for the 10 inches ... men and every woman I've ever talked about this kind of thing with.

JadeDRed wrote:
No.

I mean 10 inches just sounds ridiculous to me, wouldn't even know what to do with it.

No, actually I would take the 6 inch option.


/threadjack

IDiivil wrote:
I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

Robert Sawin wrote:
Why.  WHY!! I get women need to feel more like women by having bigger breast.  But I can't for the love of God figure out why its so hard for some gals to be satisfied which there own boobs.

...because everywhere we turn, we see forces and advertising in society that tells us "beautiful" women have full breasts. Look at the women in Maxim; look at the women in Playboy. Look at sexy women, as they are depicted in movies and TV. Many successful actresses, and models, who book gigs at the highest pay rates, who work constantly - have large or augmented breasts. Even fitness models, who supposed to represent the healthiest, "ideal" athletic physique frequently get implants in order to be competitive in their market.

Things like that stupid idea in Ausralia, or New Zealand a couple years ago - to restrict small busted women from appearing in erotic content, just serves to reinforce the idea that women with small breasts are somehow inferior, or not "real women."

This is why women sometimes feel the need to get enhancements to be more womanly. Does it really need to be explained, Robert?

ShivaKitty wrote:

IDiivil wrote:
I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

...because everywhere we turn, we see forces and advertising in society that tells us "beautiful" women have full breasts. Look at the women in Maxim; look at the women in Playboy. Look at sexy women, as they are depicted in movies and TV. Many successful actresses, and models, who book gigs at the highest pay rates, who work constantly - have large or augmented breasts. Even fitness models, who supposed to represent the healthiest, "ideal" athletic physique frequently get implants in order to be competitive in their market.

Things like that stupid idea in Ausralia, or New Zealand a couple years ago - to restrict small busted women from appearing in erotic content, just serves to reinforce the idea that women with small breasts are somehow inferior, or not "real women."

This is why women sometimes feel the need to get enhancements to be more womanly. Does it really need to be explained, Robert?

I consider a breast "full" when my hands are full when holding them.

ShivaKitty wrote:

IDiivil wrote:
I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

...because everywhere we turn, we see forces and advertising in society that tells us "beautiful" women have full breasts. Look at the women in Maxim; look at the women in Playboy. Look at sexy women, as they are depicted in movies and TV. Many successful actresses, and models, who book gigs at the highest pay rates, who work constantly - have large or augmented breasts. Even fitness models, who supposed to represent the healthiest, "ideal" athletic physique frequently get implants in order to be competitive in their market.

Things like that stupid idea in Ausralia, or New Zealand a couple years ago - to restrict small busted women from appearing in erotic content, just serves to reinforce the idea that women with small breasts are somehow inferior, or not "real women."

This is why women sometimes feel the need to get enhancements to be more womanly. Does it really need to be explained, Robert?

Not to mention men's obsession w larger than life tits!


Paris Hilton is our only hope lol

Ararity wrote:
Not to mention men's obsession w larger than life tits!


Paris Hilton is our only hope lol

We are doomed.

double negative wrote:

I consider a breast "full" when my hands are full when holding them.

Please understand that some women would prefer fullER breasts. I have small boobs that I am proud of and that my fiance loves, but I can relate to Shiva. I used to hate them, and even considered implants. Comments like yours won't really change their mind.

Robert Sawin wrote:
Snip.

... ShivaKitty hit the nail on the head about why I feel like my boobs are inferior. If there were more media based things that even cared to show sexy women with small boobs, I'd feel like there was even SOME interest/demand for them... but everything I have ever seen about any sexy woman ALWAYS has them with huge breasts. Breasts I could never get without augmentation.

The ONLY character I can think of who was incredibly sexy with small breasts in a television show was Inara from Firefly... and even she had cleavage. I can't get that... can't think of any more offhand with breasts smaller than Inara's.

It's humiliating, honestly, and I don't feel like it's really about other people so much as a problem with me. I don't have issues with people thinking I am not sexy... Lots of people do. It's just that I can't look at my breasts and be happy with them.

... and I don't have any other body image issues. I love me otherwise. The modeling industry does nothing to affect my self esteem. It's the world outside of modeling... Modeling is one of the few things I can do that make me feel fully sexy and entirely desirable and where I am happy with my breasts.

The world outside is what makes me feel like a shitty non-woman... and when I put my hands on them. Not much to grab there.

Oh and... sure, my man loves my boobies, he makes sure to tell me all the time and likes to grab at them, but it depresses me that there are more things we could do with my boobies if they were just a cup size larger even

It's... really not what other people are telling me. I hear nothing but good things about my breasts from everyone else. It's me.

IDiivil wrote:
The modeling industry does nothing to affect my self esteem. It's the world outside of modeling... Modeling is one of the few things I can do that make me feel fully sexy and entirely desirable...

From a personal perspective, I absolutely agree with this, though not particularly as it relates to boobs. I'm not someone who would be considered sexually attractive by the general population - at all. I'm small, and people think I'm an awkward teen girl, not a grown woman. That's fine sometimes, but if I'm interested in talking to someone I find attractive, my seeming lack of stereotypical "real world" sex appeal can be initially off-putting. However, if I am with a female friend who has long, thin legs and large boobs, and she sees someone she finds attractive, chances are they are already checking her out before she approaches them.

In the "real world," sexy women are different than in the online modeling world. Vastly different. I always wished I could package up how "sexy" I became in photographs, and take that out into the "real world," and show that self to people - because it feels more authentic, but that's not how things work. In the real world, you are either tall and blond, with long, lean legs and cleavage ... or, you're not, and that's that. No matter how sexy you might feel inside; that does not particularly come across to other people in daily life, unless you're almost trying too hard to convey it.

People online telling you that you are beautiful means nothing when you don't see that in your daily life. It has value, but it doesn't change ultimately how you see yourself, through other people's eyes.

ShivaKitty wrote:

From a personal perspective, I absolutely agree with this, though not particularly as it relates to boobs. I'm not someone who would be considered sexually attractive by the general population - at all. I'm small, and people think I'm an awkward teen girl, not a grown woman. That's fine sometimes, but if I'm interested in talking to someone I find attractive, my seeming lack of stereotypical "real world" sex appeal can be initially off-putting. However, if I am with a female friend who has long, thin legs and large boobs, and she sees someone she finds attractive, chances are they are already checking her out before she approaches them.

In the "real world," sexy women are different than in the online modeling world. Vastly different. I always wished I could package up how "sexy" I became in photographs, and take that out into the "real world," and show that self to people - because it feels more authentic, but that's not how things work. In the real world, you are either tall and blond, with long, lean legs and cleavage ... or, you're not, and that's that. No matter how sexy you might feel inside; that does not particularly come across to other people in daily life, unless you're almost trying too hard to convey it.

People online telling you that you are beautiful means nothing when you don't see that in your daily life. It has value, but it doesn't change ultimately how you see yourself, through other people's eyes.

A guy checking out a women with big boobs is an automatic magnit even I can't help but look at the elephant in the room.  But it doesn't mean I care to date the gal.  Like I said before guys only liking Big boobs are a myth.  Don't get caught up in the hype.  trust me if I had a huge bulge coming out of my crotch I'll bet you just about any one would look at that too but it does not mean girls will throw them selves at me.   The face will always win a guy over.  Big boobs are just something too look at and play with.  thats it.  its not going to improve your chances in any respect.

ShivaKitty wrote:

IDiivil wrote:
I can't explain why I dislike my breasts. On my best days, they are only OK. I wish I could love them more, but I don't know how.

...because everywhere we turn, we see forces and advertising in society that tells us "beautiful" women have full breasts. Look at the women in Maxim; look at the women in Playboy. Look at sexy women, as they are depicted in movies and TV. Many successful actresses, and models, who book gigs at the highest pay rates, who work constantly - have large or augmented breasts. Even fitness models, who supposed to represent the healthiest, "ideal" athletic physique frequently get implants in order to be competitive in their market.

Things like that stupid idea in Ausralia, or New Zealand a couple years ago - to restrict small busted women from appearing in erotic content, just serves to reinforce the idea that women with small breasts are somehow inferior, or not "real women."

This is why women sometimes feel the need to get enhancements to be more womanly. Does it really need to be explained, Robert?

I understand the notion that big boobs present the image of a fertile women.  after all breast are ment to feed a child and the icon of fulfilling a mans desire. 

HOWEVER, people must remember what we see in the world is often times over the top to make something pop out.  LIKE USING ALL CAPS IN A SENTENCE.  Its the same notion that women need to be skinny to be pretty.  that is not at all the case and by far the opposite in the real world.  enhancing body parts is not going to help your chances.  its about the total package.  Yes Big boobs will make more business sense but that is on a superficial level.  Its hard to explane but at the end of the day big boobs aren't all that to allot of men.

IDiivil wrote:
Interesting. I heard the same argument before from men... that the big boobs aren't necessarily attractive to them, but they have to look at since it's just something huge and in their face.

I'll have to think about that for a while. Even still, though, there are a LOT of guys who really are staring because they like the big boobs

I think I'd probably agree with that. they're attractive in whatever size they are, and while bigger breasts are perceived as more "attractive"  I still prefer a smaller size. Not to say though that I would or wouldn't date a girl solely on the merits of her chest size.

Michael A Broughton wrote:
not everyone, not always. and of those who do, most will respond less than favorably if you try using more than the first 7 or 8 inches.

That's true, but the extra length lets you use some creative positions and still have enough penetration.

IDiivil wrote:
The ONLY character I can think of who was incredibly sexy with small breasts in a television show was Inara from Firefly... and even she had cleavage. I can't get that... can't think of any more offhand with breasts smaller than Inara's.

Oh and... sure, my man loves my boobies, he makes sure to tell me all the time and likes to grab at them, but it depresses me that there are more things we could do with my boobies if they were just a cup size larger even

It's... really not what other people are telling me. I hear nothing but good things about my breasts from everyone else. It's me.

No sexy small-breasted women?  Check out Gwen Stefani.  She's totally hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuVFHTvdaY&ob=av2e

If everyone's telling you something and you're not believing them, it's your perceptions that need work, not your body.  You look just fine.

Selena Bree wrote:
Check out my breasts on my port and how can you not say "perky"? and i am 58 years old...

I read a study once where they found out more intelligent men prefer woman with small breasts thanks guys here on this forum thread for being so smart!  :-)
xoxo
Selena

I checked them out and you look great.  Keeping fit really pays off.

Top Level Studio wrote:
If everyone's telling you something and you're not believing them, it's your perceptions that need work, not your body.

WOAH. I want to frame this quote and put it in my bedroom. Profound.

Top Level Studio wrote:
No sexy small-breasted women?  Check out Gwen Stefani.  She's totally hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuVFHTvdaY&ob=av2e

If everyone's telling you something and you're not believing them, it's your perceptions that need work, not your body.  You look just fine.

... I just said it was my perceptions. That's what I have been saying all along. I also said I couldn't THINK of any more small breasted women offhand... not that there are none.

Point:

The ONLY character I can think of who was incredibly sexy with small breasts in a television show was Inara from Firefly... and even she had cleavage. I can't get that... can't think of any more offhand with breasts smaller than Inara's.
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It's... really not what other people are telling me. I hear nothing but good things about my breasts from everyone else. It's me.

I really don't like having stuff I know repeated to me. It's way obvious that I understand it's my perceptions that need working. Actually fixing those perceptions, however, is friggin' hard.

Top Level Studio wrote:
No sexy small-breasted women?  Check out Gwen Stefani.  She's totally hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuVFHTvdaY&ob=av2e

If everyone's telling you something and you're not believing them, it's your perceptions that need work, not your body.  You look just fine.

IDiivil wrote:
... I just said it was my perceptions. That's what I have been saying all along. I also said I couldn't THINK of any more small breasted women offhand... not that there are none.

It's cool to make a thread validating people. But the bottom line is that self esteem is just that, SELF esteem.

Jim Macias wrote:

Top Level Studio wrote:
No sexy small-breasted women?  Check out Gwen Stefani.  She's totally hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuVFHTvdaY&ob=av2e

If everyone's telling you something and you're not believing them, it's your perceptions that need work, not your body.  You look just fine.

It's cool to make a thread validating people. But the bottom line is that self esteem is just that, SELF esteem.

I'm afraid I don't follow. What do you mean? I figured the conversation we were all having just above was evident it was about self-esteem and an explanation of why our perceptions existed as they did... and the one addition the other poster made about it not always being about having small breasts, but wanting fuller breasts.

Top Level Studio wrote:

That's true, but the extra length lets you use some creative positions and still have enough penetration.

THIS is very very True!

IDiivil wrote:
I love you, Damianne.

Shucks.
I love your boobs.

IDiivil wrote:
I love you, Damianne.

Damianne wrote:
Shucks.
I love your boobs.

I love both of you! And your boobs.

JEM model wrote:
I HAVE SMALL BOOBS AND I WOULDNT HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY!!

My favorite part about it; NOT HAVING TO WEAR A BRA!! Haha suckers!!!

double negative wrote:
I love you.  that is all

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