Swansea, Wales, United Kingdom
V Laroche wrote: Please, tell us more. I think that maybe somebody here didn't hear you the first twenty times. Eliza, have you ever been a fit model? Do you think that fit models can find steady work? How tall do you have to be to be a fit model? Do you have to be agency standard? Hey Eliza, who is better quality, AP or VS?????????? PLEASE SHARE YOUR INFINITE WISDOM.
Well why not share your infinite sarcasm ?
Obviously; the op has little chance to be a top VS model. But there are other avenues; and fit is one of them and you get to do some cool stuff and get paid if you do fit.
The debate went on because things I said were challenged. This is the nature of debate; people do repeat themselves as the other parties have done in this thread and others on the subject of modelling opportunities in the fashion industry. They put it in a different way; produce different cites etc. Sometimes; eventually people actually accept the testimony of others. And sometimes; it gets on other peoples nerves.
Of course some people don't contribute anything they are just here to slate others.
I guess it makes them feel better about themselves; or they use the chance to get at someone because they have some kind of other issues with them, or something. But I generally when I see threads where an debate dominates which bores me I just don't bother reading. You are not obliged. I do not have infinite wisdom; but I know fit modelling. As it was for a top lingerie brand that is relevant. And in that; the op has some chance. I fail to see how anything you have said in the last two replies is anything but personal attack off topic. As far as I know there are maybe only a dozen threads out of thousands which have featured anything about fit modelling; and also people tend to join threads without reading previous post so again sometimes repitition is needed. Just don't read rather than getting in such a foul mood and resorting to pure insult.
V Laroche wrote: Holy fuck. Can we just go ahead and change the name of Model Mayhem to "Eliza C was an Agent Provocateur fit model with Silvia Dimitroya and she worked very steadily wearing top quality underpants" already? Then we can make every single thread about how Eliza C was a fucking AP fit model. Maybe Eliza C can start a goddamn advice column.
"Dear Eliza C,
I feel insecure in my relationship with my boyfriend although he assures me he loves me. Do you have any advice?
Thanks in advance,
Needy in Denver"
"Dear Needy in Denver,
Anybody who is 5"6' in London can find steady work as a fit model, wearing top quality underpants with Silvia Dimitroya. Let me tell you all about it. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. For five pages.
Best of luck! Also, please feel free to come back any time and ask me more questions about the top quality underpants I wore with Silvia Dimitroya when I was working steadily as a fit model in London.
Fit model for Agent Provacateur"
If you ever stop modelling you could be a joke writer. This is classic. Post of the freaking month.
1. Name dropping is amazingly tacky and reeks of snobbery. I did an informal shoot with a photographer once and, if I dropped his name... we'd all have a "holy shit!" moment. I don't feel the need to do that, because... who gives a shit that a really famous photographer took a couple of shots of me 8 years ago, because he happened to stop by the studio that I was working in and liked a pose I did? It's one of those funny moments that I laugh about with friends and nothing more. Eliza, given the field that you're in, you could easily know who my boyfriend is. You may have learned about his work during your Masters or PhD program. I have too much respect for him and for our relationship to start dropping his name to increase my credibility or stature.
2. Things are the way they are for a reason and, while there are exceptions to every rule, they're few and far between. Yes, a model or two may get lucky and get a coveted position. The rest of us won't. I managed to make it as a model, at an advanced age, with scars and tattoos. That doesn't mean that everyone will. Holding up the experience of some who is, for all intents and purposes, an anomaly is pointless and counter productive. For every Adriana Lima, there's 1,000 girls who never made it. If not more.
3. I remember what it was like to rail against convention and, while I never did it with modeling, I did it politically. I beat my head into a wall for long enough to learn that my head was going to give way long before the wall did. OP, if you want to try... more power to you. Just don't be surprised when you hear "Yeah, we told you so..."
4. Just because someone isn't a model doesn't mean that they don't have a crapton of knowledge about how modeling works. In fact, photographers are a pretty great resource and their perspective on things is really not something to scoff at. In fact, when I was starting out, the advice that I gleaned from talking to photographers was invaluable. Also, just because I am a model does not mean that I know everything there is to know about being a model, as there are plenty of aspects that I either know nothing about or haven't dealt with in long enough that things have probably changed. Also, while I may know my own market, different cities have different dynamics and I'd be a fool to think that I know everything about all of them. There's something to be said for being humble.
Please, tell us more. I think that maybe somebody here didn't hear you the first twenty times. Eliza, have you ever been a fit model? Do you think that fit models can find steady work? How tall do you have to be to be a fit model? Do you have to be agency standard? Hey Eliza, who is better quality, AP or VS?????????? PLEASE SHARE YOUR INFINITE WISDOM.
Eliza is posting to give models the benefit of her experience.