Model
Nay Louise
Posts: 82
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
The amount of negativity, hate and just plain stupid comments i see in the forums has made me hate Model Mayhem. Reading some things people say on here just make me hate humanity.
The other day i read a comment "she deserved to get sexually harassed because of the way she dressed" WHAT??? So its ok to sexually harrass a woman if she dresses like a "slut"?
These sorts of comments make me want to delete my account and i am going to soon but i just paid for another month so will wait till the month is up.
Ive even seen comments like "she wouldnt take her clothes off so i sent her home" this is why models insist on llama herders I've personally had bad experiences. Then you see photographers say in forums "if they need an llama herder they arnt real models" Well guess what Mr photographer YOUR not a real photographer if you shoot one on one in your tiny little shitty house.
F*** this place makes me so angry!
Model
Nay Louise
Posts: 82
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Oh i dont hate model mayhem i hate the forums and the mean people on it.
Photographer
SPV Photo
Posts: 808
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Naomi L A wrote:
Oh i dont hate model mayhem i hate the forums and the mean people on it. It's definitely developed some sort of weird/shitty vibe over the past year. Makes it easier to take breaks from it.
Photographer
William Kious
Posts: 8842
Delphos, Ohio, US
You can use llama Mayhem without frequenting the forums...
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
William Kious wrote:
You can use Model Mayhem without frequenting the forums... +1
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
A. I am a hobbyist photographer. B. The bar is set pretty low. C. Don't hate the playa. Hate the game. 
Model
Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
There is a lot of absolute crap to weed through in the forums, and they can be easy to hate. They also seem to turn otherwise nice people evil sometimes. But they can also be hilarious and a fun way to pass time. But try not let the trolls and idiots get to you so bad, there are some great people around. Plus every so often there are new threads with actual information and good advice on a real topic....you need to be patient but it happens 
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
William Kious wrote:
You can use Model Mayhem without frequenting the forums... The forums are my favorite. I haven't shot in months. I will not pay a hobbyist model with no experience 75 dollars an hour.
Photographer
Cosplay Creatives
Posts: 10714
Syowa - permanent station of Japan, Sector claimed by Norway, Antarctica
Antediluvian Design wrote:
B. The bar is set pretty low.
Is this why I keep trippin in the forums?
Model
hgldhlhgfh
Posts: 576
Dumont d'Urville - permanent station of France, Sector claimed by France, Antarctica
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Jessie Shannon wrote:
There is a lot of absolute crap to weed through in the forums, and they can be easy to hate. They also seem to turn otherwise nice people evil sometimes. But they can also be hilarious and a fun way to pass time. But try not let the trolls and idiots get to you so bad, there are some great people around. I more identify myself as a playful rascal.
Model
zierlich
Posts: 25
San Antonio, Texas, US
William Kious wrote:
You can use Model Mayhem without frequenting the forums... +1
Steer clear from the forums if you do not wish to enter the burning ring of fire,
quoted from Johnny Cash. 
-walks away humming-
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire...
Model
zierlich
Posts: 25
San Antonio, Texas, US
darnit account, needs to stop double posting! -le sigh-
Photographer
William Kious
Posts: 8842
Delphos, Ohio, US
You know what's really sad?
That many of us will know exactly what threads she's talking about...
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
B. The bar is set pretty low.
Gryph wrote:
Is this why I keep trippin in the forums? Nah, alcohol, bruthaman. I'm actually a bit buzzed this evenin'. 
I think this place just needs some shots, a few blunts, and some stick removal.
Model
Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
john_ellis wrote:
Nah, alcohol, bruthaman. I'm actually a bit buzzed this evenin'.
I think this place just needs some shots, a few blunts, and some stick removal. Stick removal & some alcohol ftw!
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
I more identify myself as a playful rascal. Please identify yourself in the lineup...
![https://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/little_rascals_650x300_a01_.jpg]()
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
john_ellis wrote:
Antediluvian Design wrote:
B. The bar is set pretty low.
Nah, alcohol, bruthaman. I'm actually a bit buzzed this evenin'.
I think this place just needs some shots, a few blunts, and some stick removal. +1
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
I am most like Spanky...haha
Photographer
Revenge Photography
Posts: 1905
Horsham, Victoria, Australia
C Nox wrote:
Just because someone says "She didn't take her clothes off so I sent her home", it could be taken in the wrong context by people unaware of the situation. Absolutely, earlier this year when I was shooting a series of bodypaint shot I was sent 3 models that were completely unaware that they would have to be nude for the paint application. The first was unfazed and wanted to proceed, the other two were given the option to withdraw with no ill feelings.
Photographer
Tony Lawrence
Posts: 21526
Chicago, Illinois, US
A few days ago there was a thread where a photographer complained about booking a nude model who decided she didn't want too do nudes once she arrived. If you are being paid to do nudes and won't you need to leave. I didn't see the thread about how a woman dresses but I did take note of the OP profile. Her feelings here kinda make sense. She requires escorts. She made a curious comment about about photographers homes. The forums aren't used by all that many members and many of the working models and shooters avoid them.
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
Photographer
DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 10604
Los Angeles, California, US
john_ellis wrote:
Please identify yourself in the lineup...
![https://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/little_rascals_650x300_a01_.jpg]() Years of Therapy.
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Naomi L A wrote:
The amount of negativity, hate and just plain stupid comments i see in the forums has made me hate Model Mayhem. Reading some things people say on here just make me hate humanity.
The other day i read a comment "she deserved to get sexually harassed because of the way she dressed" WHAT??? So its ok to sexually harrass a woman if she dresses like a "slut"?
These sorts of comments make me want to delete my account and i am going to soon but i just paid for another month so will wait till the month is up.
Ive even seen comments like "she wouldnt take her clothes off so i sent her home" this is why models insist on escorts I've personally had bad experiences. Then you see photographers say in forums "if they need an escort they arnt real models" Well guess what Mr photographer YOUR not a real photographer if you shoot one on one in your tiny little shitty house.
F*** this place makes me so angry! Options:
1) Don't frequent the forums. You can still meet lots of neato folks elsewhere on MM.
2) Realize that there are just going to be some people here with opinions you find abhorrent. You're bound to meet such people in just about any social setting you use. Just don't think everyone's like that. And when you let the meanies drive you off, you give the meanies that power over you. Don't give them that power.
3) Quit Model Mayhem and take comfort in the fact that the rest of the Internet is totally civil, polite and reliable. It's one big group hug outside these walls.
4) If you're easily angered by shitty people with offensive opinions, you might avoid the internet altogether.
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
If it helps, I think you look great!!
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Models aren't allowed in my home. There isn't a lock on the liquor cabinet...
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
The snarky-sarcastic nature of most comments in these forums is as annoying as it is unproductive or entertaining. At 20 you can be excused for such behavior but at 30+, it's dope slap time.
Then there is the almost infantile, childlike pentulence as the minutia of any given subject is addresed-most often in an attempt to sound authoratative on a given matter as well as some sort of self-grandised self-entitlement trip (like the one I am conducting now).
In the Words of Tony Roma [Glenn Gary/Glenn Ross]:
"If you'd ever spent a day in the life, you'd know: ya don't open ya mouth until you know what the shot is!"
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Naomi L A wrote:
Ive even seen comments like "she wouldnt take her clothes off so i sent her home" this is why models insist on escorts I've personally had bad experiences. Then you see photographers say in forums "if they need an escort they arnt real models" Well guess what Mr photographer YOUR not a real photographer if you shoot one on one in your tiny little shitty house.
F*** this place makes me so angry! Well, if the model agreed to shoot nudes, it's not unreasonable to cancel the shoot. Same as if she DIDN'T agree to them and the photographer insisted, it's reasonable to cancel.
I guess I'm safe, I shoot "one on one" quite often, but I house is pretty big, and fairly nice.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Autonomy II wrote:
The snarky-sarcastic nature of most comments in these forums is as annoying as it is unproductive or entertaining. At 20 you can be excused for such behavior but at 30+, it's dope slap time.
Then there is the almost infantile, childlike pentulence as the minutia of any given subject is addresed-most often in an attempt to sound authoratative on a given matter as well as some sort of self-grandised self-entitlement trip (like the one I am conducting now).
In the Words of Tony Roma [Glenn Gary/Glenn Ross]:
"If you'd ever spent a day in the life, you'd know: ya don't open ya mouth until you know what the shot is!" I left my corporate gig at 5:00 tonight.
Other Glen Gary quotes.
"Coffee is for closers."
1st prize a Cadillac el dorado
2nd prize this box of candy canes
3rd prize " you're fired"
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Autonomy II wrote:
In the Words of Tony Roma [Glenn Gary/Glenn Ross]:
"If you'd ever spent a day in the life, you'd know: ya don't open ya mouth until you know what the shot is!" See, OP? If you leave, you won't get words of wisdom from Dallas Cowboy quarterbacks.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Jessie Shannon wrote:
There is a lot of absolute crap to weed through in the forums, and they can be easy to hate. They also seem to turn otherwise nice people evil sometimes. But they can also be hilarious and a fun way to pass time. But try not let the trolls and idiots get to you so bad, there are some great people around.
Plus every so often there are new threads with actual information and good advice on a real topic....you need to be patient but it happens I've gotten a who lot of shoots from the forums, and made some online friends who I hope to someday meet here.
Model
Ivanafox
Posts: 979
Healesville, Victoria, Australia
I fully agree, that the MM forums are an incredibly negative place to be.
Seems to be a lot of people on both sides of the camera who are off in Fairyland- whether that's the model hating photographers who think a bad experience with one inexperienced drama filled female is representative of all MM models, to the models who think it's normal to expect $100 an hour plus MUA and wardrobe for a hobby folio-building shoot.
The ones who make me laugh the most is the photographers who complain about how much their equipment costs, like they had a gun to their head to buy a Canon 5dIII instead of an equally capable (for non-pros) T3I. Oh and the guys who offer advise based on "the industry" as if Vogue are scouring the MM profiles for prospective talent!
Seems the forums attract the worst, and extract the worst from those worse!
Stay away from the forums, they are a never ending trainwreck!
Model
IDiivil
Posts: 4615
Los Angeles, California, US
William Kious wrote:
You can use Model Mayhem without frequenting the forums... +1
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 35726
Los Angeles, California, US
William Kious wrote:
You can use Model Mayhem without frequenting the forums... Oh, sure. NOW you tell me.
Photographer
Flex Photography
Posts: 6471
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
john_ellis wrote:
Please identify yourself in the lineup...
![https://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/little_rascals_650x300_a01_.jpg]() Hint: I'm only wearing a collar.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Ivanafox wrote:
I fully agree, that the MM forums are an incredibly negative place to be.
Seems to be a lot of people on both sides of the camera who are off in Fairyland- whether that's the model hating photographers who think a bad experience with one inexperienced drama filled female is representative of all MM models, to the models who think it's normal to expect $100 an hour plus MUA and wardrobe for a hobby folio-building shoot.
The ones who make me laugh the most is the photographers who complain about how much their equipment costs, like they had a gun to their head to buy a Canon 5dIII instead of an equally capable (for non-pros) T3I. Oh and the guys who offer advise based on "the industry" as if Vogue are scouring the MM profiles for prospective talent!
Seems the forums attract the worst, and extract the worst from those worse!
Stay away from the forums, they are a never ending trainwreck! One is a cropped frame and the other is a full frame. Two completely different cameras.
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Orca Bay Images wrote:
See, OP? If you leave, you won't get words of wisdom from Dallas Cowboy quarterbacks. Lol, see self-entitlement 101.
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Oh, sure. NOW you tell me. I thought it obligatory for free membreship!
Photographer
robert b mitchell
Posts: 2218
Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
Stay away from the forums then. Too many EGOS here!
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