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Photographer
MaximumXphoto
Posts: 1
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Dec 13 12 10:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Model
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18,762
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium


so... for your first post, you decided to come into the modelling forum and tell models what to do and what not to do?
Dec 13 12 10:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,688
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


MaximumXphoto wrote:
...meaningful advice...

My best advice to you would be to not do this again.

Dec 13 12 10:11 am  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


LOL.

MaximumXphoto wrote:
Models who accept nude work will typically get 75% more responses.

Where is your statistical analysis to back this claim up?

Also, I know many models who do nudes and simply get more "responses" because there are people out there who just want to see nudes and aren't genuinely interested in the "art" or whatever else.   I was an art model, I dealt with this all the time, particularly here, and got sick of it.   Comments aren't important to me.  Work is.

MaximumXphoto wrote:
Not all photographers are PHOTOGRAPHERS. Some have cameras that wont take better pictures than an iPhone.

Hmm...

You're new here.  Take a look around first, please.

Dec 13 12 10:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1,072
Seattle, Washington, US


Summary:

If you want to be a REAL model, you will respond promptly when I message you. You will shoot naked with me for TFP, and you won't bring any damn llama herder! When I say bend over, you will bend ALL the way over... and when I send you images, you will post them everywhere, and tell the world that I was the best thing to ever happen to you.
Then, and ONLY then, may you put your clothes back on.

By the way, my camera is really, really big!
smile
Dec 13 12 10:28 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jojo West
Posts: 972
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


Lars R Peterson wrote:
Summary:

If you want to be a REAL model, you will respond promptly when I message you. You will shoot naked with me for TFP, and you won't bring any damn llama herder! When I say bend over, you will bend ALL the way over... and when I send you images, you will post them everywhere, and tell the world that I was the best thing to ever happen to you.
Then, and ONLY then, may you put your clothes back on.

By the way, my camera is really, really big!
smile

Lol...yeah it's for those folks that I've been very specific in my profile if they don't like what I say, they can move on, no point in lingering. smile

Dec 13 12 10:38 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


And here I thought the majority of pompous, self-serving bs was limited to SF2.
Dec 13 12 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Model
MoRina
Posts: 5,659
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


I think the mods should remove this from the model forum just in case anyone might actually listen to this drivel.
Dec 13 12 10:41 am  Link  Quote 
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2,977
Austin, Texas, US


MaximumXphoto wrote:
4. Make sure you do set your limits, go for a shoot and if you didn't like it, remember not to use the photographer again.

Thank Richard Dawkins for you! It's so hard to remember not to work with photographers who haven't respected your limits. Gotta write this down somewhere before I forget....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcmfdb2odt1rjkyheo1_500.gif

Dec 13 12 10:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Lol. Way to make an entrance into the forums.
Dec 13 12 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


Paternalism from a newbie.....I don't see this ending well big_smile
Dec 13 12 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
Model
E e v a
Posts: 1,724
Nashville, Tennessee, US


You have two rule 6's....
Dec 13 12 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Forma
Posts: 373
Denver, Colorado, US


Eeeek! Someone needs to respond from a model's perspective about what they look for in photographers. That might be of use here...
Dec 13 12 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Matt Forma wrote:
Eeeek! Someone needs to respond from a model's perspective about what they look for in photographers. That might be of use here...

1) Camera
2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work
3) Concept for shoot (!)
4) Good communication & planning (mutual)
5) Shows up (!)
6) Comes with release form (if paid)
7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade)

Dec 13 12 11:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fleming Design
Posts: 1,070
Hartford, Connecticut, US


model emily  wrote:
1) Camera
2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work
3) Concept for shoot (!)
4) Good communication & planning (mutual)
5) Shows up (!)
6) Comes with release form (if paid)
7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade)

Don't ruin it.  For his second post MaximumXphoto is going to school us photographers too.

Dec 13 12 11:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1,072
Seattle, Washington, US


Emily, you didn't declare what percentage of models will respond quicker  if I shoot in the nude!
Dec 13 12 11:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 36,184
Columbus, Ohio, US


model emily  wrote:

1) Camera
2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work
3) Concept for shoot (!)
4) Good communication & planning (mutual)
5) Shows up (!)
6) Comes with release form (if paid)
7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade)

Emily, no! You're doing it wrong.

You need two 6's for it to be proper.

Dec 13 12 11:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 36,184
Columbus, Ohio, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:

My best advice to you would be to not do this again.

I'll second this, for my meaningful imput.

Dec 13 12 11:22 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1,625
Los Angeles, California, US


Uhm.. okay.
Dec 13 12 11:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AJScalzitti
Posts: 12,475
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Well damn I was really in need of a laugh today, and right after lunch to shake the 2:30 feeling,  who needs '5hr energy' when we have 'pompous clue free' - now with less clue!

Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images...
Dec 13 12 11:27 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


AJScalzitti wrote:
Well damn I was really in need of a laugh today, and right after lunch to shake the 2:30 feeling,  who needs '5hr energy' when we have 'pompous clue free' - now with less clue!

Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images...

+1 well played big_smile

Dec 13 12 12:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Alexis Montclaire
Posts: 211
Chattanooga, Tennessee, US


well now that he deleted his wall of text, my response is no fun. sad
Dec 13 12 12:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Alexis Montclaire
Posts: 211
Chattanooga, Tennessee, US


AJScalzitti wrote:
Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images...

I noticed that too.


Joined:     Feb 29, 2012


>_>

Dec 13 12 12:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,118
Olney, Maryland, US


MaximumXphoto wrote:
If there are any photographers that have meaningful advice they can add it to this thread.

8. llamas

Dec 13 12 01:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,118
Olney, Maryland, US


Lars R Peterson wrote:
By the way, my camera is really, really big!
smile

My equipment is really old and quite useless.

Dec 13 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,263
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Paige Morgan wrote:
Paternalism from a newbie.....I don't see this ending well big_smile

my thoughts exactly.

i laugh at the ignorance of the "advice" basically describing how a model can cater to a photographer.

Dec 13 12 01:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

my thoughts exactly.

i laugh at the ignorance of the "advice" basically describing how a model can cater to a photographer.

It is never a good idea to assume your personal preferences and needs are universal truths.

To then try to impose that view on a large group of people as barely veiled "advice", even less so.

I'm actually surprised that this has stayed civil this long.

Dec 13 12 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,517
Salinas, California, US


MaximumXphoto wrote:

lol   You bailed before I could quote you!!!!! 

Not a good way to enter the forums!!!!!


Why delete what you wrote?  Everything we write here is open to discussion.  If you can't take it ... well?

Dec 13 12 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Julia Francesca
Posts: 2,357
Maumee, Ohio, US


omg someone is sharing their opinions on a public forum, what a jerk, that is so not why i came here today!!!!!
Dec 13 12 01:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,688
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


The OP has taken his ball and gone home, and no-one quoted him.  Damn.
Dec 13 12 01:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,263
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Paige Morgan wrote:

It is never a good idea to assume your personal preferences and needs are universal truths.

To then try to impose that view on a large group of people as barely veiled "advice", even less so.

I'm actually surprised that this has stayed civil this long.

you mean not every photographer is a heterosexual male hobbiest who is solely in charge of casting models, for shoots in which he is the director, and the project would always be female models for lingerie/nude shoots?

granted its his first post, and he's only been on the site a couple months AND its the holiday season, i assume people are feeling forgiving of his ignorance, or have better things to do than rip into him.

now if this thread got moved to "off topic" it might be a different story. haha.

but yes im surprised too that its been this civil.

Dec 13 12 01:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,517
Salinas, California, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
The OP has taken his ball and gone home, and no-one quoted him.  Damn.

I know!   Here I thought we were going to have a good discussion?  hmm

Dec 13 12 01:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,263
Pleasant Hill, California, US


hahaha smart move on his half.
no one quoted him, because that was an embarrassment to preserve.

i was just about to suggest he beg for a mercy lock from the Mods before this thing gets out of hand.

MaximumXphoto,
stay in the newbie section for a while.
read A LOT.
come back posting in a few months.
Dec 13 12 01:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,517
Salinas, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:
you mean not every photographer is a heterosexual male hobbiest who is solely in charge of casting models, for shoots in which he is the director, and the project would always be female models for lingerie/nude shoots?

granted its his first post, and he's only been on the site a couple months AND its the holiday season, i assume people are feeling forgiving of his ignorance, or have better things to do than rip into him.

now if this thread got moved to "off topic" it might be a different story. haha.

but yes im surprised too that its been this civil.

The OP got off on the wrong foot is all.  As one photographer to another here, I would not talk down to you or tell you that my methods are better than yours.  His "advise" was directed towards models with his having an "all or nothing" attitude in his writing.  I could suggest to you how I cast models, but you certainly don't have to do as I do in that process.   We can both be sucessful in our own ways.

Dec 13 12 01:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24,315
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US


well i'm pretty well positive, this posting didn't have the desired effect....

http://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png
Dec 13 12 01:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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