Model
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
so... for your first post, you decided to come into the modelling forum and tell models what to do and what not to do?
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 3588
Ashford, England, United Kingdom
MaximumXphoto wrote: ...meaningful advice... My best advice to you would be to not do this again.
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1020
Boston, Massachusetts, US
LOL. MaximumXphoto wrote: Models who accept nude work will typically get 75% more responses. Where is your statistical analysis to back this claim up? Also, I know many models who do nudes and simply get more "responses" because there are people out there who just want to see nudes and aren't genuinely interested in the "art" or whatever else. I was an art model, I dealt with this all the time, particularly here, and got sick of it. Comments aren't important to me. Work is.
MaximumXphoto wrote: Not all photographers are PHOTOGRAPHERS. Some have cameras that wont take better pictures than an iPhone. Hmm... You're new here. Take a look around first, please.
Photographer
Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1085
Seattle, Washington, US
Summary: If you want to be a REAL model, you will respond promptly when I message you. You will shoot naked with me for TFP, and you won't bring any damn llama herder! When I say bend over, you will bend ALL the way over... and when I send you images, you will post them everywhere, and tell the world that I was the best thing to ever happen to you. Then, and ONLY then, may you put your clothes back on. By the way, my camera is really, really big!
Model
JWest
Posts: 1000
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Lars R Peterson wrote: Summary: If you want to be a REAL model, you will respond promptly when I message you. You will shoot naked with me for TFP, and you won't bring any damn llama herder! When I say bend over, you will bend ALL the way over... and when I send you images, you will post them everywhere, and tell the world that I was the best thing to ever happen to you. Then, and ONLY then, may you put your clothes back on. By the way, my camera is really, really big!
Lol...yeah it's for those folks that I've been very specific in my profile if they don't like what I say, they can move on, no point in lingering.
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
And here I thought the majority of pompous, self-serving bs was limited to SF2.
Model
Model MoRina
Posts: 6639
MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica
I think the mods should remove this from the model forum just in case anyone might actually listen to this drivel.
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2990
Seattle, Washington, US
MaximumXphoto wrote: 4. Make sure you do set your limits, go for a shoot and if you didn't like it, remember not to use the photographer again. Thank Richard Dawkins for you! It's so hard to remember not to work with photographers who haven't respected your limits. Gotta write this down somewhere before I forget....
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Lol. Way to make an entrance into the forums.
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Paternalism from a newbie.....I don't see this ending well
Model
E e v a
Posts: 1724
Nashville, Tennessee, US
You have two rule 6's....
Photographer
Matt Forma
Posts: 373
Denver, Colorado, US
Eeeek! Someone needs to respond from a model's perspective about what they look for in photographers. That might be of use here...
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1020
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Matt Forma wrote: Eeeek! Someone needs to respond from a model's perspective about what they look for in photographers. That might be of use here... 1) Camera 2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work 3) Concept for shoot (!) 4) Good communication & planning (mutual) 5) Shows up (!) 6) Comes with release form (if paid) 7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade)
Photographer
Fleming Design
Posts: 1380
East Hartford, Connecticut, US
model emily wrote: 1) Camera 2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work 3) Concept for shoot (!) 4) Good communication & planning (mutual) 5) Shows up (!) 6) Comes with release form (if paid) 7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade) Don't ruin it. For his second post MaximumXphoto is going to school us photographers too.
Photographer
Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1085
Seattle, Washington, US
Emily, you didn't declare what percentage of models will respond quicker if I shoot in the nude!
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
model emily wrote: 1) Camera 2) A portfolio where I can see some examples of your work 3) Concept for shoot (!) 4) Good communication & planning (mutual) 5) Shows up (!) 6) Comes with release form (if paid) 7) Returns photos in a timely manner (if trade) Emily, no! You're doing it wrong. You need two 6's for it to be proper.
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Kent Art Photography wrote: My best advice to you would be to not do this again. I'll second this, for my meaningful imput.
Photographer
AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 13053
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Well damn I was really in need of a laugh today, and right after lunch to shake the 2:30 feeling, who needs '5hr energy' when we have 'pompous clue free' - now with less clue! Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images...
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
AJScalzitti wrote: Well damn I was really in need of a laugh today, and right after lunch to shake the 2:30 feeling, who needs '5hr energy' when we have 'pompous clue free' - now with less clue! Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images... +1 well played
Model
Alexis Montclaire
Posts: 212
Atlanta, Georgia, US
well now that he deleted his wall of text, my response is no fun.
Model
Alexis Montclaire
Posts: 212
Atlanta, Georgia, US
AJScalzitti wrote: Edit, and damn from ATL as well and doesn't credit anyone on images... I noticed that too. Joined: Feb 29, 2012 >_>
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 11726
Olney, Maryland, US
MaximumXphoto wrote: If there are any photographers that have meaningful advice they can add it to this thread. 8. llamas
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 11726
Olney, Maryland, US
Lars R Peterson wrote: By the way, my camera is really, really big!
My equipment is really old and quite useless.
Photographer
Paolo D Photography
Posts: 11502
San Francisco, California, US
Paige Morgan wrote: Paternalism from a newbie.....I don't see this ending well my thoughts exactly. i laugh at the ignorance of the "advice" basically describing how a model can cater to a photographer.
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Paolo Diavolo wrote: my thoughts exactly. i laugh at the ignorance of the "advice" basically describing how a model can cater to a photographer. It is never a good idea to assume your personal preferences and needs are universal truths. To then try to impose that view on a large group of people as barely veiled "advice", even less so. I'm actually surprised that this has stayed civil this long.
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
MaximumXphoto wrote:
You bailed before I could quote you!!!!! Not a good way to enter the forums!!!!! Why delete what you wrote? Everything we write here is open to discussion. If you can't take it ... well?
Model
Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
omg someone is sharing their opinions on a public forum, what a jerk, that is so not why i came here today!!!!!
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 3588
Ashford, England, United Kingdom
The OP has taken his ball and gone home, and no-one quoted him. Damn.
Photographer
Paolo D Photography
Posts: 11502
San Francisco, California, US
Paige Morgan wrote: It is never a good idea to assume your personal preferences and needs are universal truths. To then try to impose that view on a large group of people as barely veiled "advice", even less so. I'm actually surprised that this has stayed civil this long. you mean not every photographer is a heterosexual male hobbiest who is solely in charge of casting models, for shoots in which he is the director, and the project would always be female models for lingerie/nude shoots? granted its his first post, and he's only been on the site a couple months AND its the holiday season, i assume people are feeling forgiving of his ignorance, or have better things to do than rip into him. now if this thread got moved to "off topic" it might be a different story. haha. but yes im surprised too that its been this civil.
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Kent Art Photography wrote: The OP has taken his ball and gone home, and no-one quoted him. Damn. I know! Here I thought we were going to have a good discussion?
Photographer
Paolo D Photography
Posts: 11502
San Francisco, California, US
hahaha smart move on his half. no one quoted him, because that was an embarrassment to preserve. i was just about to suggest he beg for a mercy lock from the Mods before this thing gets out of hand. MaximumXphoto, stay in the newbie section for a while. read A LOT. come back posting in a few months.
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Paolo Diavolo wrote: you mean not every photographer is a heterosexual male hobbiest who is solely in charge of casting models, for shoots in which he is the director, and the project would always be female models for lingerie/nude shoots? granted its his first post, and he's only been on the site a couple months AND its the holiday season, i assume people are feeling forgiving of his ignorance, or have better things to do than rip into him. now if this thread got moved to "off topic" it might be a different story. haha. but yes im surprised too that its been this civil. The OP got off on the wrong foot is all. As one photographer to another here, I would not talk down to you or tell you that my methods are better than yours. His "advise" was directed towards models with his having an "all or nothing" attitude in his writing. I could suggest to you how I cast models, but you certainly don't have to do as I do in that process. We can both be sucessful in our own ways.
Photographer
S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
well i'm pretty well positive, this posting didn't have the desired effect....
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