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First message - Love your look and pics! I'm shooting content for magazines and sites this Saturday the 5th in Southfield. You are invited to a 60-70 min. test shoot. No nudity required, wear what you like. I have openings in the afternoon. Please let me know if you are interested and I can give you more information. Thanks, (his name) Second - For new models you get all the images withinin 24 hours and 10 of your choice professionaly enhanced for your use. I have two openings left for this Saturday in the afternoon. Third - Included more information and also ... Did you your read my profile on MM? I'm a certified full-time prof. photog. unlike 95% of others on this site (mm) so I am glad you are doing your research. (lots of you know what's out there). It's in a regular hotel room, that's the part that is iffy to me but maybe it shouldn't be? There are 9 models shooting, 10-9 pm. "I have one opening left in the afternoon. I allow that much time for each model, paperwork, touchups, changing, breaks etc. Sometimes total shooting time is only 20 mins. Bring what you like to wear. Makeup 50% more than normal, especially your eyes." Thanks! Jan 03 13 07:35 am Link "I'm a certified full-time prof. photog." - That is cause for suspicion, since there is no such credential. Perhaps not a scam, but rather a "blowhard" who thinks quite highly of himself. I would say there are lots of us out here who would be a much better bet, even some of the "uncertified" non-professionals. Jan 03 13 07:38 am Link rp_photo wrote: Sure there is. There are plenty of certificate programs in photography. What's so odd about that? Jan 03 13 07:40 am Link Sophistocles wrote: I was thinking certificate = professional license. Jan 03 13 07:42 am Link It seems suspicious! Jan 03 13 07:44 am Link I agree it seems weird. Go with your gut, always. It may just be that he's a dick, but you're picking up on his dickness. Come to NC and shoot with me. I'm certifiably insane.  Jan 03 13 07:52 am Link Nudity may not be required, but I'm thinking it might be suggested. Jan 03 13 07:54 am Link Open one of the letters they sent and then click on the lower left Flag this PM/Sender Jan 03 13 08:05 am Link L2Photography net wrote: Did we miss something? Jan 03 13 08:12 am Link L2Photography net wrote: Are you KIDDING ME? Jan 03 13 08:12 am Link Bring an escort. That way if he is in fact one of the elite 5% "certified professionals" on MM he can start a new escort rant thread the day after your shoot.  Jan 03 13 08:17 am Link Keep in mind that the photographer quoted by the OP "dissed" 95% of us here. Jan 03 13 08:19 am Link From what the OP has shown us, I don't think this photographer has broken any rules (although many may disagree with his approach). I do, however, think it is a good idea to use caution with photographers that feel a need to warn models about the other photographers on the site (remembeer that photographer from Tennessee that used to TAG new models all over the country and "warn" them about all the other photographers on the site?). With that being written, OP there are many legitimate shoots that happen in hotel rooms. Jan 03 13 08:24 am Link rp_photo wrote: I've been insulted by worse. And better. Jan 03 13 08:25 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica Holy cow. Tough room. He says 'no nudity' so that means it will be suggested? If he didn't mention it at all, some would think 'you'll have to take your clothes off!' O_o OP: you say he's on MM. Did you ask for references or contact any models in his MM portfolio that are linked? Jan 03 13 08:28 am Link Sounded pretty up front to me. Jan 03 13 08:53 am Link I've contacted past models who have worked with him on his portfolio and one got back to me. Had a shoot a year ago out of his home and said everything was legit. The only worry I had was it being out of a hotel room. Apparently this is a 60-70 test shoot, there are 9 other models, and escorts are allowed just not in the room while shooting. M&H to be done and makeup 50% more than usual on eyes. Could be fine and just coming off rough. Jan 03 13 11:23 am Link He is a 5% top-tier professional photographer (certified!), who is going to shoot you for about 1 hour in a hotel room, and give you 10 professionally retouched images of your choice within 24 hours (from a "TEST" shoot)?? He shoots for big brand name publications and magazines, and you don't even have to get naked! He's going to have a hair and makeup team and several other models in the same hotel room for this project?? (And I suppose he's also going to give each of them 10 professionally retouched images from the shoot?) He sounds like a total badass. Can I watch? I would love to see how the top 5% operate!! Jan 03 13 11:37 am Link Go for it and report back.  Jan 03 13 11:52 am Link i used to shoot content around 2005..i got paid by the pic. i would bring in a ton of girls and make pretty much the same offer...(usually it was lingerie or swimsuit) i did have a studio, but i cold have used a hotel room.. but i'm a 2%er  Jan 03 13 11:54 am Link PM me. I'm just 45 minutes south of you down I-75. We can set up a leisurely 2-4 hour shoot, indoors or outdoors. I'm not in the top 5% of photographers on MM, but I doubt this guy is either. OTOH, I've done a number of shoots in hotel rooms, so that in itself isn't a big deal. I'd be more concerned with his elitist attitude making him a pain to work with. Jan 03 13 11:57 am Link MichAMORE wrote: Might be a scam, although I'm not sure what they would be scamming you out of. Might not. I've shot in Hotels several times, although I usually don't offer it in the first message. Might if I was traveling though, you go with the options you have. Jan 03 13 12:01 pm Link I see nothing scammy about this message. Jan 03 13 12:04 pm Link Most hotel room shoots are glamour models in lingerie or less posed on a bed. I would just check: 1. What kind of photos you will be taking 2. Where the photos will end up. 3. And ask for a copy of the release form you can read ahead of time, print it out yourself and bring it and sign in front of the photog. For all you know the photographer is just trying to get as many pretty girls to pose as provacatively as theyre comfortable to provide content to a website. Which is not a bad thing, as long as everyone knows thats the goal, and are ok with it. Just find out all the details and make an educated decision. Jan 03 13 12:17 pm Link rp_photo wrote: Nudity may be required for totally legit shoots, and not relevant for total scams. I don't see how it's relevant. Jan 03 13 01:05 pm Link rp_photo wrote: How & why does that matter one iota? Jan 03 13 01:20 pm Link Me thinks OP doesn't shoot very much... Jan 03 13 02:41 pm Link |
