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R A V E N D R I V E
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Good Egg Productions wrote:
100 Billion really isn't that many.
Consider ALL of the factors that worked together to somehow allow molecules of matter to come together and somehow, SOMEHOW, spark into actual living organisms.
It all seems highly improbable.
So is it a one in a billion shot? One in a trillion?
We're talking about the probability of a rock spontaneously turning into a fish.
It COULD happen, but the odds are pretty big. I agree, there is also the time factor, that it seems like nobody takes seriously
us humans have been around for 50,000 years or so? almost getting wiped out from weather events several times and have been lucky with the asteriods
within simply 1 million years on any other planet, there could be ten other 50,000 year periods that the intelligent-enough life could have thrived
and yet, we are talking about billions of years when it comes to outer space and planetshe life or intelligent life thing, its just very unlikely we'll find what we are looking for
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Digitoxin
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R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
I agree, there is also the time factor, that it seems like nobody takes seriously
us humans have been around for 50,000 years or so? almost getting wiped out from weather events several times and have been lucky with the asteriods
within simply 1 million years on any other planet, there could be ten other 50,000 year periods that the intelligent-enough life could have thrived
and yet, we are talking about billions of years when it comes to outer space and planetshe life or intelligent life thing, its just very unlikely we'll find what we are looking for I am not sure what "intelligent enough" means above. However, in the quest for intelligent life, I am sure that scientists would define the cockroach as "intelligent" and it has been around for 350 million years. Made it Through asteroids and weather and disease. Long-term intelligent life is sustainable. And that is only one specicies. If you look at the cumulative time of all intelligent life on earth, the periods are much older.
Intelligent life might be very hard to create, true. But, given the only example we have (earth), once it gets going, it does appear, in aggregate, to be able to sustain itself over many hundreds of millions of years.
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London Fog wrote:
Meanwhile, here on earth, Justin Beiber, Jersey Shore and the Karskankians are what we can offer them when they arrive!
Nice eh? Can't say I saw that coming before opening this thread  .
I've heard there are more stars in space than grains of sand on earth, that is so mind-boggling  .
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Photography by Sean
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Atlanta, Georgia, US
Who doesn't know this or something to its effect except for religious people who think there's no universe outside the earth, sun and moon?
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Sirius Star Photography
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Faster than lighting travel has always been a major topic for quantum, astro and theoretical physicists. In fact, there are multiple ways to achieve faster than light travel. I only wish I could share what I know about this subject with all of you but it would be a bit complex and time consuming. However, if you are interested in more info., feel free to message me or respond to my post.
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Justin
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
In fact, there are multiple ways to achieve faster than light travel. I would say, "In theory, there are multiple ways." For instance, the now-old "warp field" of Star Trek, generated to remove the field contents from normal space, to "warp" the space around it. Maybe that's possible. But maybe it would take near-infinite levels of energy to do it.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US
Total annihilation reaction from energy harnessed from stars would achieve this level of energy. For instance, everything in the known universe is bound by sympathetic harmony, vibration and resonance. The Sun and Sirius Star A are heavily connected by this force, therefore, it is quite easy to travel between the two star systems at speeds that dwarf those of light.
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Robb Mann
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London Fog wrote:
Meanwhile, here on earth, Justin Beiber, Jersey Shore and the Karskankians are what we can offer them when they arrive! Wait, isn't Justin Beiber proof that aliens have not only visited Earth, but have copulated with our root vegetables?
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Jim Ball
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Robb Mann wrote:
Wait, isn't Justin Beiber proof that aliens have not only visited Earth, but have copulated with our root vegetables? Maybe not proof, but a very compelling argument could be made...
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Digitoxin
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Denver, Colorado, US
Sirius Star Photography wrote:
In fact, there are multiple ways to achieve faster than light travel. I only wish . And the energy level needed to do so?
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Sirius Star Photography
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US
Digitoxin wrote:
And the energy level needed to do so? Nuclear weapons on earth only release a very small fraction of the energy generated from the reaction. During the total annihilation reaction, nearly 100% energy is produced. This is matter and anti-matter annihilating themselves.
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JJMiller
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Any data to back up this faster than light, inter-connectedness stuff?
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
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We have insufficient information to calculate the odds that there is life in the universe other than on Earth, and insufficient to calculate the odds of intelligent life.
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Digitoxin
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
Nuclear weapons on earth only release a very small fraction of the energy generated from the reaction. During the total annihilation reaction, nearly 100% energy is produced. This is matter and anti-matter annihilating themselves. You indicated that "in fact" it was possible to travel faster than light.
I asked for the energy levels required to do so.
Your comments abve don't answer my question. Can you tell me the energy levels needed to achieve faster than light travel? Failing that, can you link me to articles that show, "in fact", that it is possible to convey a spaceship faster than light?
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Sirius Star Photography
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It, in my opinion, would be the height of arrogance to assume that humans occupy such a vast amount of space...alone. Take the wind for instance, you don't generally see it but you can definitely see and feel its effects. It can literally destroy entire towns and communities! Just because you don't see it directly in front of you doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is an abundance of evidence all over the world that suggest that the Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials. It's just my interpretation of the situation.
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L o n d o n F o g
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There are millions of civilizations out there, likely many thousands in our Galaxy alone! The little circle you see around our Sun encompasses our entire Solar System, that is all of our known planets right out to Pluto, so just imagine what is out there in the rest of our Galaxy, way out there on the other arms of the Milky Way...! ![https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/AA777/MilkyWay_zpsf3c23e20.jpg]() Then just imagine, beyond that there are Billions upon billions of other galaxies out there, Andromeda being the closet!
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Kincaid Blackwood
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R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
I agree, there is also the time factor, that it seems like nobody takes seriously There you go again: declaring something pretty self-evident as if you're the first and only person to have had such an epiphany, Cap'n Obvious.
Some people in this thread have already highlighted this. Surely you're not saying the scientific community doesn't know this.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Digitoxin wrote:
You indicated that "in fact" it was possible to travel faster than light.
I asked for the energy levels required to do so.
Your comments abve don't answer my question. Can you tell me the energy levels needed to achieve faster than light travel? Failing that, can you link me to articles that show, "in fact", that it is possible to convey a spaceship faster than light? SUBJECTS
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"Bob Lazar 3 - Nuclear Reactions & Element 115"
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Element 115 & Nuclear Reactions
"The reactor uses a fuel that does not occur natually on earth. The fuel is a Super-Heavy, stable, element with an atomic number of 115 and does not appear on our periodic chart.
Element 115 has a twofold purpose: First, it is the source of a gravity wave that is unknown to Earth's scientists, the gravity A wave. Second it is the source of the anti-matter raditation which is reaction to provide power.
The gravity A wave eminates from the nucleus of element 115 and actually extends past the perimeter of the atom.
The propulsion system from the disk amplifies and focuses this gravity A wave to cause space/time to bend, much like space/time bends in the intense gravitational field of a black hole.
The ability to direct gravity to cause space/time distortion allows the disc to cross vast expanses of space/time without traveling in a linear mode at a high rate of speed.
Inside the reactor, the element 115 is transmutated to element 116 which is unstable and immediately decays releasing antimatter. The antimatter is reacted with gaseous matter which causes a total annihilation reaction, the 100 percent conversion of matter to energy. The heat created by the reaction is converted to electrical energy by a solid state, near 100 percent efficient thermoelectric generator. It is this energy that is used to amplify the gravity A wave.
This mode of travel is one of the two methods of propulsion used by the disc. In this mode, the disc's gravity amplifiers are in the "delta configuration" and are pulsed sequentially in a rotational pattern.
The above is from Bob Lazars "Interstellar Craft Poster".
Lazar further explained that the element 115 that is inside the reactor is bombarded with protons, which turns it into the element 116. That element decays releasing two antiprotons (anti-hydrogen), a form of antimatter. The antimatter is channel down tubes where it reacts with gas, and then undergoes the "Total Annihilation Reaction".
Lazar explains that we use Fision, and Fusion, in most of our nuclear reactions, in for example an atomic bomb. Fision: produces energy by splitting atoms. Fusion: fuses atoms, usually hydrogen to release more energy. The total annihilation reaction that takes place in this small reactor dwarfs the 2 just described.
Sources ------------ Coast To Coast Radio - Art Bell - 12/6/03 ---------- Bob Lazars, Interstellar Craft Poster. ---------- www.BobLazar.com
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This may give you an idea of what I'm conveying, this is not what mainstream physists would like you to believe. Nevertheless, the math is there.
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L o n d o n F o g
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I found a way to travel at the speed of light, here's a shot of our Galaxy taken with my 7D. Those L series lenses are so awesome! ![https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/AA777/OurGalaxy_zps856f3001.jpeg]()
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Digitoxin
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
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"Bob Lazar 3 - Nuclear Reactions & Element 115"
Written By By Paulofwww.ufocrashsite.com
Element 115 & Nuclear Reactions
"The reactor uses a fuel that does not occur natually on earth. The fuel is a Super-Heavy, stable, element with an atomic number of 115 and does not appear on our periodic chart.
Element 115 has a twofold purpose: First, it is the source of a gravity wave that is unknown to Earth's scientists, the gravity A wave. Second it is the source of the anti-matter raditation which is reaction to provide power.
The gravity A wave eminates from the nucleus of element 115 and actually extends past the perimeter of the atom.
The propulsion system from the disk amplifies and focuses this gravity A wave to cause space/time to bend, much like space/time bends in the intense gravitational field of a black hole.
The ability to direct gravity to cause space/time distortion allows the disc to cross vast expanses of space/time without traveling in a linear mode at a high rate of speed.
Inside the reactor, the element 115 is transmutated to element 116 which is unstable and immediately decays releasing antimatter. The antimatter is reacted with gaseous matter which causes a total annihilation reaction, the 100 percent conversion of matter to energy. The heat created by the reaction is converted to electrical energy by a solid state, near 100 percent efficient thermoelectric generator. It is this energy that is used to amplify the gravity A wave.
This mode of travel is one of the two methods of propulsion used by the disc. In this mode, the disc's gravity amplifiers are in the "delta configuration" and are pulsed sequentially in a rotational pattern.
The above is from Bob Lazars "Interstellar Craft Poster".
Lazar further explained that the element 115 that is inside the reactor is bombarded with protons, which turns it into the element 116. That element decays releasing two antiprotons (anti-hydrogen), a form of antimatter. The antimatter is channel down tubes where it reacts with gas, and then undergoes the "Total Annihilation Reaction".
Lazar explains that we use Fision, and Fusion, in most of our nuclear reactions, in for example an atomic bomb. Fision: produces energy by splitting atoms. Fusion: fuses atoms, usually hydrogen to release more energy. The total annihilation reaction that takes place in this small reactor dwarfs the 2 just described.
Sources ------------ Coast To Coast Radio - Art Bell - 12/6/03 ---------- Bob Lazars, Interstellar Craft Poster. ---------- www.BobLazar.com
"Presidents, Jimmy Carter & Ronald Reagan, both reported seeing UFOs."
© Copyright 2004, Custom ComputerDesigns.
This may give you an idea of what I'm conveying, this is not what mainstream physists would like you to believe. Nevertheless, the math is there. Element 115.....
Oh, Bob Lazar. Yes, got it.
Anything else?
Could you tell me about that energy thing I keep asking about? Mr. lazar must certainly address it with all that talk of protons and element 115 transmuting into 116 and all.
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Managing Light
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
Element 115 & Nuclear Reactions
"The reactor uses a fuel that does not occur natually on earth. The fuel is a Super-Heavy, stable, element with an atomic number of 115 and does not appear on our periodic chart.
This may give you an idea of what I'm conveying, this is not what mainstream physists would like you to believe. Nevertheless, the math is there. Geez! What a stinking pile!
Maybe I should be wearing the tinfoil hat.
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Managing Light
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
In fact, there are multiple ways to achieve faster than light travel. I only wish . Digitoxin wrote:
And the energy level needed to do so? Well, if you believe the Lorenz-Fitzgerald Transforms, to get any amount of mass to lightspeed takes infinite energy.
Unless you are using element 115 energy sources.
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London Fog wrote:
I found a way to travel at the speed of light, here's a shot of our Galaxy taken with my 7D. Those L series lenses are so awesome! Yeah, for all we know that pictures could be hundreds of thousands of years old. Do you have one with someone holding up a recent newspaper?
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Sirius Star Photography
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Digitoxin wrote:
Element 115.....
Oh, Bob Lazar. Yes, got it.
Anything else?
Could you tell me about that energy thing I keep asking about? Mr. lazar must certainly address it with all that talk of protons and element 115 transmuting into 116 and all.
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Digitoxin
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Managing Light wrote:
Well, if you believe the Lorenz-Fitzgerald Transforms, to get any amount of mass to lightspeed takes infinite energy.
. Yes, I am aware.
I therefore remain curious about this poster's point that "in fact" travel at beyond the speed of light is possible. Element 115 is not a "fact." But, I would still like to know how much energy it requires to work. Surely any scientist worth his salt has figured that one out.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US
Digitoxin wrote:
Element 115.....
Oh, Bob Lazar. Yes, got it.
Anything else?
Could you tell me about that energy thing I keep asking about? Mr. lazar must certainly address it with all that talk of protons and element 115 transmuting into 116 and all. Of course it would depend on the distance travelled, the amount of space/time you are bending. You would be astonished by the super lumina technology that exists. This isn't meant to be a battle, yet a discussion. How long must one abide by outdated data concerning the universe? Maybe, one day, consider torsion field physics as a means of super lumina travel or interstellar communications by using harmonics with a biological component...
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Digitoxin
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
Of course it would depend on the distance travelled, the amount of space/time you are bending. You would be astonished by the super lumina technology that exists. This isn't meant to be a battle, yet a discussion. How long must one abide by outdated data concerning the universe? Maybe, one day, consider torsion field physics as a means of super lumina travel or interstellar communications by using harmonics with a biological component... Ok, so I will take your answer to my question on the amount of energy needed as an "I have no idea"... Am I correct there?
Or is energy part of that "outdated data" too?
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Rp-photo
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Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
The likelihood that our civilized existence coincides with any civilized life on another planet, in my opinion, seems pretty slim. There's probably dinosaur-like life out there on other planets but 1, maybe 1 other race out there advanced to our degree or beyond. It would be amazing if there were 2 or 3 in existence now but that seems so unlikely.
With all the planetary systems out there it seems like such a huge chance but 3.5 billion years of life before we stumble on the scene for our 6000-year civilized drop in the bucket means that civilized life on another planet could have occurred 50,000 years ago and completely turned to dust by now. In other words, as well as distance separation, there's also time separation, and in the event that communications are intercepted, light-speed delays.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Digitoxin wrote:
Ok, so I will take your answer to my question on the amount of energy needed as an "I have no idea"... Am I correct there?
Or is energy part of that "outdated data" too? An infinite amount of energy would not be needed to reach a star system, say alpha centaurs. If you're travelling an infinite distance, you would need an infinite amount of energy. Using this type of technology allows for nearly instantaneous travel. I don't have the figures on the amount of energy it would take to travel to whatever destination you're thinking of but that does not negate the fact that the technology does exist..
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John Photography
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London Fog wrote:
I found a way to travel at the speed of light, here's a shot of our Galaxy taken with my 7D. Those L series lenses are so awesome!
![https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/AA777/OurGalaxy_zps856f3001.jpeg]() Very cool photo thanks for sharing. What time of night was this?
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Top Level Studio
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Has anyone ever produced element 115? Has it ever existed anywhere other than in the text on that poster? So far as we know at present, lead is the heaviest stable element (anyone is welcome to correct me on that), so element 115 would be pretty unusual. Also, if Gravity Waves A are unknown to Earth scientists, who's telling him about them? Helpful alien scientists? Engineering info found on a UFO? The owner's manual of a UFO that the author has kept hidden? Please inform us. We're curious. EDIT: I just looked up Element 115, and it does exist. It's called Ununpentium, and is not at all stable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_115 However, in science fiction, there are more possibilities. On this page, you can scroll down and read about Ununpentium and Bob Lazar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materials_ … ce_fiction
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Sirius Star Photography
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There are stars that have been proven to be made up of materials several times harder than diamonds. Science, for so long thought that diamonds were the hardest substance known to man, until technology caught up. There are many undiscovered and unknown truths concerning the universe. The human race has not yet scratched the surface...
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Justin
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Top Level Studio wrote:
Has anyone ever produced element 115? Yeah. It's been produced in the lab, several dozen atoms, none of which lasted much more than 100 milliseconds. It goes by the quite unimaginative name of Ununpentium.
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Top Level Studio
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Justin wrote:
Yeah. It's been produced in the lab, several dozen atoms, none of which lasted much more than 100 milliseconds. It goes by the quite unimaginative name of Ununpentium. Thanks. As you can see in my edited post above, it doesn't take much research to see there's more fiction than fact about Ununpentium.
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Top Level Studio
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Sirius Star Photography wrote:
There are stars that have been proven to be made up of materials several times harder than diamonds. Science, for so long thought that diamonds were the hardest substance known to man, until technology caught up. There are many undiscovered and unknown truths concerning the universe. The human race has not yet scratched the surface... There's certainly lots more to learn. Scientists are discovering every day how much we don't know.
However, Bob Lazar seems to be reaching conclusions that are apparent to nobody else, and claiming qualifications and education that don't ring true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazarh … /Bob_Lazar
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Sirius Star Photography
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Remember when man believed that the Earth was the center of the universe or when he believed that the earth was flat...just because one may not be as educated regarding such topics, does not disprove certain truths.
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Top Level Studio wrote:
There's certainly lots more to learn. Scientists are discovering every day how much we don't know.
However, Bob Lazar seems to be reaching conclusions that are apparent to nobody else, and claiming qualifications and education that don't ring true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazarh … /Bob_Lazar Unless we on Earth embrace Element 115 and the related technologies now, we are ceding them to the Zeta Reticulans -- who will then be free to impose the New World Order.
Or we could just, like, accept what the scientists all say.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US
Top Level Studio wrote:
Thanks. As you can see in my edited post above, it doesn't take much research to see there's more fiction than fact about Ununpentium. So the fact that it was produced is fiction? Under what conditions was it produced? In the vacuum of space, on Earth, in the Large Headron collider? Those preliminary studies can prove to be similar to those produced in recalled pharmaceuticals. Either there we're miscalculations or an outright attempt to mislead the public...
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Top Level Studio
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Sirius Star Photography wrote:
Remember when man believed that the Earth was the center of the universe or when he believed that the earth was flat...just because one may not be as educated regarding such topics, does not disprove certain truths. Why would a truth seeker lie about his education and qualifications? That undermines the credibility of anything he claims to know or have discovered.
Claiming that Element 115 is not in the periodic table is a lie. It's right there, along with Elements 116, 117, and 118.
See for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_element
Da Vinci did not have a degree, and wrote that readers should overlook that when reading some of his technical writing. He didn't claim to be educated in the fields, but his work spoke for itself.
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Sirius Star Photography
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US
Monad Studios wrote:
Unless we on Earth embrace Element 115 and the related technologies now, we are ceding them to the Zeta Reticulans -- who will then be free to impose the New World Order.
Or we could just, like, accept what the scientists all say. I believe you're referring to the Alpha Draconians...lol
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