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ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
i think people who need variety shouldn't enter into exclusive relationships to begin with or should at least discuss it with their partner to see if they're ok with an open relationship. no point in making yourself or the other person miserable. if you're a horny beast then be a horny beast. just don't try to pretend you're not.
i think you can have someone who is an excellent lover and faithful. but better make sure her needs are getting met (and those needs may not always involve sex although the dating advice i've read says women leave because of bad sex) or someone else might start meeting those needs. some of it has to do with opportunity and temptation. some people are just magnets for attention or are in careers where there's lots of opportunity to tangle with new people (actors working on location come to mind).
i also think maybe there's this thing where if you're in a relationship with someone maybe you don't want to even try to cross certain lines whereas if it were a fling with someone you just met what have you got to lose? women say they are all for honest communication but i haven't really found that they want to hear about certain things.
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
I think you're using your own ideas about "right" and "wrong" as it applies to sexuality to decide that someone that does one will do anything inside of that group.
Being vanilla in the sack doesn't mean you're more likely to be faithful.
Being more open to exploration doesn't mean you're more likely to cheat.
I'm a little offended by the implications, like if I like a little light choking or don't mind exploring a partner's fantasies, I'm a liar and a cheater.
Ugh, or even that if someone has had limited partners they're going to be shit in bed.
Seriously, your entire OP is completely insulting.
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity? open up to the idea that your idea of what sex, cheating, faithfulness and relationships are might not be the same as what others believe.
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Damianne wrote:
Seriously, your entire OP is completely insulting. yeah pretty much
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
also, what guys think
is generally stupid, especially regarding what makes a "good women"
and especially when you define "good women" as women that can fulfill men's fantasies
well now i'm thoroughly disgusted
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 39248
Portland, Oregon, US
Damianne wrote:
Seriously, your entire OP is completely insulting. About the only thing not insulting in the OP was the time stamp.
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
DougBPhoto wrote:
About the only thing not insulting in the OP was the time stamp. No, I really didn't need to be reminded this kind of bullshit meanders around the world at 10 pm on a saturday.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. Horseshit
My wife could've turned John Holmes eyeballs backwards.....did not cheat.
What can we expect your next troll to be about?
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Misty R H
Posts: 471
Anaheim, California, US
Being faithful and being with one person for the long haul doesn't have to equate to being "vanilla" in the sack as someone said. When you are with someone that you know loves you (even with all of your faults) and understands you and communicates with you things in bed can be great. This is because this is the type of relationship where you can ask this trusted person to do anything. This trusted person knows what you like and how to please you.
You don't have to worry about impressing this person. There is no performance anxiety. This can be very liberating because you can truly be yourself.
Variety doesn't have to mean being with different people. There are different ways to have variety with the same person.
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Eyesso
Posts: 1218
Orlando, Florida, US
I think I have the best of both worlds with my wife. I don't want anything more, and neither does she. Imagine that.
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IDiivil
Posts: 4615
Los Angeles, California, US
I'm freaky in bed and faithful :
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
IDiivil wrote:
I'm freaky in bed and faithful :
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IDiivil
Posts: 4615
Los Angeles, California, US
jesse paulk wrote:
nerdy in bed maybe, i've seen photos. :p Nerdy in bed in that I'm just every video game fantasy girl ever ;P
Well, the ones with the small tits anyways.
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Vector 38
Posts: 8296
Austin, Texas, US
Damianne to Mad Hatter wrote:
I think you're using your own ideas about "right" and "wrong" as it applies to ... Mad Hatter's got a long string of threads using that very modus operandi ...
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hygvhgvkhy
Posts: 2092
Chicago, Illinois, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity? If you're saying you don't think a woman can be freaky and faithful, it's not true.
That's all I'm sayin:P
Oh, and it's my birthdaaaay!(:post:)
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Presley ONeil wrote:
If you're saying you don't think a woman can be freaky and faithful, it's not true.
That's all I'm sayin:P
Oh, and it's my birthdaaaay!(:post:) Happy birthday.
And, you may have missed the memo but you aren't allowed to be aware of sex until you're 18.
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jesse paulk
Posts: 3712
Phoenix, Arizona, US
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hygvhgvkhy
Posts: 2092
Chicago, Illinois, US
Art of the nude wrote:
Happy birthday.
And, you may have missed the memo but you aren't allowed to be aware of sex until you're 18. Lmao, I know. I didn't miss the memo. All I said was it wasn't true, I never said how I knew(:
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Madonna Whore Complex
Look it up.
PS I could be wrong, but I remember looking at your profile and seeing it listed as female at one point in time.
Did you switch genders to ask a bunch of offensive questions you always wanted to know?
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Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4861
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Op, I hope you realize that men can also be "quite boring and under experienced sexually". You probably also realize that those men who operate under a strategy of trying to find "faithful" women who's sexual philosophy is that they exist only to "fulfill a guy's every fantasy" are very likely to be both of the former.
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:
Op, I hope you realize that men can also be "quite boring and under experienced sexually". You probably also realize that those men who operate under a strategy of trying to find "faithful" women who's sexual philosophy is that they exist only to "fulfill a guy's every fantasy" are very likely to be both of the former. From personal experience I can tell you men can be any kind of experience sexually and boring in bed.
Being good in bed is about paying attention to what pleases your partner, and being comfortable enough with yourself and your partner to be open and nonjudgemental enough that everyone feels comfortable talking about what they want.
There are no fixall tricks to being awesome in bed.
Mostly it's about rapport and paying attention to one another.
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Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4861
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Damianne wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you men can be any kind of experience sexually and boring in bed.
Being good in bed is about paying attention to what pleases your partner, and being comfortable enough with yourself and your partner to be open and nonjudgemental enough that everyone feels comfortable talking about what they want.
There are no fixall tricks to being awesome in bed.
Mostly it's about rapport and paying attention to one another. No argument with the idea that either sex can be quite experienced in numbers and of limited interest.
I do think though that rapport, attentiveness, comfort etc., are qualities that can be developed and improved through experience as well. It depends on the goals.
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:
No argument with the idea that either sex can be quite experienced in numbers and of limited interest.
I do think though that rapport, attentiveness, comfort etc., are qualities that can be developed and improved through experience as well. It depends on the goals. Only because not being a complete idiot and/or asshole are things that one develops through life experience.
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PR Zone
Posts: 897
London, England, United Kingdom
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
...Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? It's an interesting question - and works for both sexes/orientations
Unfortunately, we'll never know for 2 reasons:-
1) affairs are illicit - so we'll never have stats
2) the definition of infidelity changes from person to person
I guess what you're really asking is the same as "Do people with huge appetite - and an insatiable need to experience different flavours - spend a lifetime eating in the same restaurant?"
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In Balance Photography
Posts: 3378
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity? Stereotyping is for optimizing junk mail, not for figuring out relationships. Once you figure out that each person on this planet is unique, you will find answers to your questions.
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
Damianne wrote:
Seriously, your entire OP is completely insulting. Pretty much sums it up.
A whole shedload of incorrect assumptions, wrong thinking and puerile extrapolations there!
I bet the OP thinks that women who wear "sexy" clothes or shoot nudes or erotica are "easy" and/or "asking for it" too... 
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com
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Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4861
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Damianne wrote:
Only because not being a complete idiot and/or asshole are things that one develops through life experience. "Not being a complete idiot and/or asshole" certainly seems like a good place to start. It does seem to me to be a rather low bar or meager portion from my experience but I've certainly no argument with it.
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. "Any guys?" Speak for yourself.
The only two ways to explain this OP:
1) You're a virgin who knows nothing of women in bed
or
2) you're married and this is your way of telling us that your wife is either boring as hell in bed or she's fucking around on you.
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
Orca Bay Images wrote:
"Any guys?" Speak for yourself.
The only two ways to explain this OP:
1) You're a virgin who knows nothing of women in bed
or
2) you're married and this is your way of telling us that your wife is either boring as hell in bed or she's fucking around on you. or C) All of the above.
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
![https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/1239788582_robin-batman-rollin.gif]() Lmao!!
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity? I had the fortune to have been blessed with great relationships including marriages that lasted for years and all had to offer a multitude of experiences and willingness to experiment for fun and pleasure...
But... I think in any case, you are lucky if you find a partner that is great and matches you in many aspects... and still... those relationships may sooner or later crumble... but enjoy the greatness of the experience... that's just my experience and humble opinion.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Orca Bay Images wrote:
The only two ways to explain this OP:
1) You're a virgin who knows nothing of women in bed
or
2) you're married and this is your way of telling us that your wife is either boring as hell in bed or she's fucking around on you. Two guys are talking about their married sex life.
So, the first guy is asking: "So..., tell me... how is your wife in bed?"
Where the second guy replies with a shoulder shrug: "I don't know... some say so, and others say so..."
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Chris Rifkin
Posts: 25581
Tampa, Florida, US
Vector 38 wrote:
Mad Hatter's got a long string of threads using that very modus operandi ... Yep....
Was about to post the same thing
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Chris Rifkin
Posts: 25581
Tampa, Florida, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
![https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/1239788582_robin-batman-rollin.gif]() 10/10
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Russian Katarina
Posts: 1413
London, England, United Kingdom
Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity? I have no desire to "fulfill a guy's every fantasy" - I do enjoy fulfilling my husband's fantasies, though. I've been faithfully married for ten years and find that being "frisky and creative" and having an active sex life is a vital part of any happy marriage.
Why would that be mutually exclusive?
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Mad Hatter Imagery
Posts: 1669
Buffalo, New York, US
Eyesso wrote:
I think I have the best of both worlds with my wife. I don't want anything more, and neither does she. Imagine that. Lucky fellow. 
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Mad Hatter Imagery
Posts: 1669
Buffalo, New York, US
IDiivil wrote:
I'm freaky in bed and faithful :
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