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Presley ONeil wrote:
Oh, and it's my birthdaaaay!(:post:)

Happy birthday!! smile

Jan 28 13 09:40 am Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery

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Jules NYC wrote:
Madonna Whore Complex
Look it up.

PS I could be wrong, but I remember looking at your profile and seeing it listed as female at one point in time.

Did you switch genders to ask a bunch of offensive questions you always wanted to know?

You're not addressing this to me I hope? I have never changed my gender on here. In fact I haven't even updated my port on here in many months.

Jan 28 13 09:42 am Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery

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PR Zone wrote:
It's an interesting question - and works for both sexes/orientations
Unfortunately,  we'll never know for 2 reasons:-

1) affairs are illicit - so we'll never have stats

2) the definition of infidelity changes from person to person

I guess what you're really asking is the same as "Do people with huge appetite - and an insatiable need to experience different flavours - spend a lifetime eating in the same restaurant?"

That was pretty much what I was asking. However some people who cheat are either caught or admit it, or else the concept of cheating would not exist. And of course some people get paranoid enough to have someone followed on a given night out or tap the phones. lol.

Jan 28 13 09:46 am Link

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udor wrote:

I had the fortune to have been blessed with great relationships including marriages that lasted for years and all had to offer a multitude of experiences and willingness to experiment for fun and pleasure...

But... I think in any case, you are lucky if you find a partner that is great and matches you in many aspects... and still... those relationships may sooner or later crumble... but enjoy the greatness of the experience... that's just my experience and humble opinion.

Humble opinions are all I ask. smile

Jan 28 13 09:48 am Link

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Koryn

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I *can* be faithful. My last relationship, I was completely faithful in every way possible, for two years, but he was married. Couldn't deal with it anymore. It was absolutely stupid to expect such a high level of commitment from me, when he went home to his wife everyday, even though they weren't sexually active anymore. At some point, I just became aware of that reality, felt really really gullible and dumb for falling for it for so long, and ended it.

Only person I ever committed to, and followed through, and I might as well have just been pissing in the wind. I'm pretty sure that, months later, he feels like a "ruined" his life, but he might never fully be able to understand why I left him.

I'm seeing someone new again now, who is so beautiful to me I still feel my breath catch in my throat when I see them changing clothes -- but their apparent lack of consistent sex drive is weirding me out a little. Dating someone who has little-no interest in pursuit of sensual pleasure seems abnormal to me, considering my own past experiences when I was younger.  *shrug*

Do men's penises just sort of curl up and die after they hit 30? I don't get it. The last one had trouble keeping it up, and this one just wants to cuddle and fall asleep.

Jan 28 13 09:49 am Link

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Russian Katarina wrote:
I have no desire to "fulfill a guy's every fantasy" - I do enjoy fulfilling my husband's fantasies, though. I've been faithfully married for ten years and find that being "frisky and creative" and having an active sex life is a vital part of any happy marriage.

Why would that be mutually exclusive?

Because some people value sex far less. Which isn't a terrible thing in and of itself, but I can see there being at least a mild incentive to not work that hard in the bed room once you've already "got somone" in a relationship that one considers pretty well sealed in.

Jan 28 13 09:52 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:

Because some people value sex far less. Which isn't a terrible thing in and of itself, but I can see there being at least a mild incentive to not work that hard in the bed room once you've already "got somone" in a relationship that one considers pretty well sealed in.

Which is part of the reason why half of the marriages fail. Love and affection needs to be nurtured and sex is part of it.

Jan 28 13 09:55 am Link

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There is no emperical data to support your claim nor is there any to support the opposite to be true.

I think faithfulness is more of a function of trust. Trust is being able to say the truth. Lots of people are not truthful with themselves much less others.

I think if people who have been cheated on... if they searched their heart... they could see that the cheater was showing signs of untruthfulness.

Fantasy sex is often overrated. Not in that it might not provide a high level of enjoyment, but it is rarely fulfilling. Sex would have to be elevated to truth, goodness and beauty before one could be fulfilled.

Jan 28 13 09:56 am Link

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Damianne wrote:
I think you're using your own ideas about "right" and "wrong" as it applies to sexuality to decide that someone that does one will do anything inside of that group.


Being vanilla in the sack doesn't mean you're more likely to be faithful.
Being more open to exploration doesn't mean you're more likely to cheat.


I'm a little offended by the implications, like if I like a little light choking or don't mind exploring a partner's fantasies, I'm a liar and a cheater.

Ugh, or even that if someone has had limited partners they're going to be shit in bed.

Seriously, your entire OP is completely insulting.

This full stop. OP should rethink their pov.

Jan 28 13 09:58 am Link

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Koryn

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Two Pears Studio wrote:
Fantasy sex is often overrated.... but it is rarely fulfilling.

bullshit.

I fantasized about having sex with women for more than a decade before I actually managed to have that experience.

It was even better than I ever envisioned in my head, all those years.

Fantasy sex shows us what we *want.* We want things for a reason, most of the time.

Two Pears Studio wrote:
Sex would have to be elevated to truth, goodness and beauty before one could be fulfilled.

And this just makes no sense whatsoever.

Jan 28 13 10:01 am Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity?

No.  Monogamy has been practiced forever.  In fact women were killed if they weren't faithful and they were treated as property and were probably very sexually satisfying to their husbands.

This is nonsense and I'm befuddled as to why you would conclude that or think anyone would side with it?  This also puts off the stereotype that sexual women are unfaithful which is untrue.

Jan 28 13 10:03 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
You're not addressing this to me I hope? I have never changed my gender on here. In fact I haven't even updated my port on here in many months.

Would have sworn I saw you listed as a Female when I checked your profile a long time ago.
I checked it when I kept seeing a trend of questions that provoked me to see who was asking them:)

Jan 28 13 10:12 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Koryn Locke wrote:
Do men's penises just sort of curl up and die after they hit 30? I don't get it. The last one had trouble keeping it up, and this one just wants to cuddle and fall asleep.

lol

Yeah, it's a big turn-off when a guy can't get hard quickly or has a small penis.
Seriously

😄

Jan 28 13 10:15 am Link

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cool story bro

Jan 28 13 10:15 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

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I don't consider it "sexually deviant" to be experimental and like sex and lots of it. But okay... I certainly think it can be both.

Jan 28 13 10:16 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Anna Adrielle wrote:
I don't consider it "sexually deviant" to be experimental and like sex and lots of it. But okay... I certainly think it can be both.

That is deviant to people who live in a very puritanic culture.

Jan 28 13 10:17 am Link

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Koryn

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Jules NYC wrote:

lol

Yeah, it's a big turn-off when a guy can't get hard quickly or has a small penis.
Seriously

😄

I don't care about the size, but it would be nice if they actually worked every now and then.

It's like when you have 5 can-openers lying around in your kitchen drawer, you're jonesing for some syrupy peaches, but not one of the goddamn things will open the fucking can.

Jan 28 13 10:18 am Link

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Russian Katarina wrote:

Which is part of the reason why half of the marriages fail. Love and affection needs to be nurtured and sex is part of it.

Amen ... suggested reading  "The Five Love Languages: The Secret to Love That Lasts"  by Gary Chapman smile

Jan 28 13 10:19 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Koryn Locke wrote:

I don't care about the size, but it would be nice if they actually worked every now and then.

It's like when you have 5 can-openers lying around in your kitchen drawer, you're jonesing for some syrupy peaches, but not one of the goddamn things will open the fucking can.

lol

Oh man that's funny

Jan 28 13 10:23 am Link

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Koryn

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Russian Katarina wrote:
Which is part of the reason why half of the marriages fail. Love and affection needs to be nurtured and sex is part of it.

When I don't feel like my partner wants sex with me, or wants it frequently, I start to feel like I am unattractive to them, and then it is hard to maintain interest in someone whom I cannot seem to excite desire in, or please.

Jan 28 13 10:24 am Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:

Good to know. lol. It just seems to me that "most" women that are sexually creativity consider those skills to be something wasted on either one person only, or someone who couldn't possibly get full appreciation of it.

find new friends big_smile

Jan 28 13 10:27 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

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Russian Katarina wrote:

Which is part of the reason why half of the marriages fail. Love and affection needs to be nurtured and sex is part of it.

that's how it is for me as well... but I can imagine some people don't have sex and just cuddle and are completely happy with that. A happy sexlife is a sexlife where both parties have their needs met, whatever they may be, and if those needs are roughly the same.

Jan 28 13 10:28 am Link

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Koryn

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Good to know. lol. It just seems to me that "most" women that are sexually creativity consider those skills to be something wasted on either one person only, or someone who couldn't possibly get full appreciation of it.

Anna Adrielle wrote:
find new friends big_smile

If you hear that a lot from these "sexually creative" women, OP, then what they really MEAN is that their current partner is taking them for granted, at least in the bedroom.

Also, with heterosexual relationships at least, I think it's easy to fall into a trap where you're a female with a pretty strong flair for intensity and passion in sex, but your partner just wants to get off regularly and go to sleep.

That shit really sucks, and wears on your self-esteem after awhile.

Jan 28 13 10:34 am Link

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Jan 28 13 10:37 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

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Koryn Locke wrote:

Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Good to know. lol. It just seems to me that "most" women that are sexually creativity consider those skills to be something wasted on either one person only, or someone who couldn't possibly get full appreciation of it.

If you hear that a lot from these "sexually creative" women, OP, then what they really MEAN is that their current partner is taking them for granted, at least in the bedroom.

Also, with heterosexual relationships at least, I think it's easy to fall into a trap where you're a female with a pretty strong flair for intensity and passion in sex, but your partner just wants to get off regularly and go to sleep.

That shit really sucks, and wears on your self-esteem after awhile.

oh, yeah... sucks!!

Jan 28 13 10:40 am Link

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JWest

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Being vanilla and faithful are two different things!

My first husband was completely vanilla, to the point where it was offensive to him to think of a woman owning a vibrator or masturbating. Every person I was with before my current husband was vanilla. There was always something missing in the sack this however did not make me cheat. Being faithful has nothing to do with being vanilla in bed. They're two different things. You could have the best sex partner in the world but if they're not fulfilling other parts of the relationship, SOME will still cheat.

Personally I think cheating is one of the worst things you could do to someone, and therefore don't think it's acceptable, but that's my personal opinion. A sentiment shared by my current husband, who isn't vanilla AT ALL wink I found my match.

Jan 28 13 10:43 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Koryn Locke wrote:
When I don't feel like my partner wants sex with me, or wants it frequently, I start to feel like I am unattractive to them, and then it is hard to maintain interest in someone whom I cannot seem to excite desire in, or please.

Women need to be loved, men need to be respected.
That is the most primal need in most marriages.

Women have a tendency to emasculate and control men that is just a deeply embedded part of our biological blueprint. It's a tough habit to break because it comes so natural to us. Eros (sexual power) is owned by women, not by men. Many women have no idea what to do with all that power.

I've found that a man who is empowered by his woman gets a boost of energy that translates to more attention and affection he's able to devote to her, as well as better game in his other endeavours, like his career. There's a reason for the saying that there's a strong woman behind every strong man.

There's no greater sexual turn-off than a man who is a doormat.

Jan 28 13 10:44 am Link

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JWest

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Russian Katarina wrote:
There's no greater sexual turn-off than a man who is a doormat.

Omg I agree completely. I always find it funny when women do that to men, emasculate them, deny them sex as punishment, and the list goes on and on. Personally there's nothing sexier than a confident, strong man while still respecting and valuing my opinion and me.

Jan 28 13 10:46 am Link

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Koryn

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Russian Katarina wrote:
Many women have no idea what to do with all that power.

What do you mean?

Like, in what context?

Jan 28 13 10:48 am Link

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Jules NYC wrote:
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Complete Bull*&^# ... unless a  man is physically impaired, age has nothing to do with it wink  as age you just have more control.

An old joke so don't hate wink

"A young bull and a old bull were up on the hill an saw a herd of cows ... the young bull says to the old bull let's run down the hill and screw a couple of those heifers ... the old bull replies ... let's walk down the hill and screw all of them".

Moral when you are young you want to go so fast that you miss a lot ... as we get older we want to do and experience everything savoring the moment wink

Jan 28 13 11:02 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Koryn Locke wrote:
What do you mean?

Like, in what context?

Sexual power is probably the most intimate form of power there is - and like all power, it can be used to empower others as well as for manipulation, control and mind games. Women can crush a man's sense of self-worth with a few words.

As an example, ridicule a man's sexual prowess or the size of his dick and see how his confidence implodes.

The way women wield this power has great effect on men's sense of their own manliness. A man in tune with his manliness is that much more attractive to a woman on a purely instinctual, sexual level. Manliness is about primal emotions and needs, like a man's confidence in being able to sexually please his woman, to be able to protect her from harm, or to provide for her.

A confident husband, empowered by his wife, has more energy to devote to her, he's more affectionate and supportive of her, more present in her life in an intimate way, which in turn fuels her attraction towards him and makes her feel loved and being taken care of.

Empowering men creates a positive feedback loop that strengthens the marriage from both ends.

If you look at men that are really confident within themselves, men that possess an innate strength without the need for blustering and chest-thumping, these men usually have strong women in their lives.

Jan 28 13 11:10 am Link

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Russian Katarina wrote:
I've found that a man who is empowered by his woman gets a boost of energy that translates to more attention and affection he's able to devote to her, as well as better game in his other endeavours, like his career. There's a reason for the saying that there's a strong woman behind every strong man.

Very true, in many cases if not all.





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Jan 28 13 11:16 am Link

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L o n d o n F o g

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Presley ONeil wrote:

If you're saying you don't think a woman can be freaky and faithful, it's not true.

That's all I'm sayin:P

Oh, and it's my birthdaaaay!(:post:)

You again in these adult threads...wtf?

Jan 28 13 11:26 am Link

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Koryn

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Russian Katarina wrote:
I've found that a man who is empowered by his woman gets a boost of energy that translates to more attention and affection he's able to devote to her, as well as better game in his other endeavours, like his career. There's a reason for the saying that there's a strong woman behind every strong man.

-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
Very true, in many cases if not all.

It's a nice thought that, if you take good care of your man, you will get more attention and affection. That's the "ideal" situation, but I've noticed too that a lot of men will start losing interest in a woman once she begins to do companion-type things for him, like doing his laundry, or preparing meals. Either the male gets frightened out of the relationship when they see these roles becoming apparent, or he then starts to see the female as unremarkable and boring, and loses interest.

There are lots of men who feel like, in order to sustain sexual interest in a female, they have to keep her at a distance. I suspect I am involved with one of those men right now. Once they start to know you "as a whole person" ---so, around the time a genuine connection starts to form --- you either become frightening to them, or no longer sexually appealing.

Working in strip clubs, it was VERY common for men to tell me about how their sexual attraction to a woman would start to die off as soon as they actually got to "know" her. It was a common complaint, regarding why they went from relationship to relationship, remaining unsatisfied in any of them, after a few months. Some of them talk about their wives this way; as though after the woman has gone through the motions of becoming a companion and mate, in the most conventional sense, she just becomes this sort of cog in a wheel of overall domestic life. She keeps their households runnings, and their lunches packed, but is no longer worthy of being beautiful, or a source sensual delight.

Probably another version of the Madonna-whore complex thing.

Jan 28 13 11:27 am Link

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Jules NYC wrote:
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Haha, awesome, but did you notice that the 41-49 has the biggest cock, girthwise!

Jan 28 13 11:28 am Link

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JWest

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Russian Katarina wrote:
A confident husband, empowered by his wife, has more energy to devote to her, he's more affectionate and supportive of her, more present in her life in an intimate way, which in turn fuels her attraction towards him and makes her feel loved and being taken care of.

I have to completely agree. Some may scoff or criticize my train of thought, but it works for me. My husband is my world. I respect, admire and adore him in and out of bed. I treat him like a king, and in turn he treats me like a queen made of glass... out of bed tongue.

Jan 28 13 11:31 am Link

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Jules NYC

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London Fog wrote:

Haha, awesome, but did you notice that the 41-49 has the biggest cock, girthwise!

Lmao
lol

Jan 28 13 11:34 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Atelier57  wrote:
Complete Bull*&^# ... unless a  man is physically impaired, age has nothing to do with it wink  as age you just have more control.

An old joke so don't hate wink

"A young bull and a old bull were up on the hill an saw a herd of cows ... the young bull says to the old bull let's run down the hill and screw a couple of those heifers ... the old bull replies ... let's walk down the hill and screw all of them".

Moral when you are young you want to go so fast that you miss a lot ... as we get older we want to do and experience everything savoring the moment wink

Lighten up man
There are far too many cougar jokes out there to take this all to heart

Jan 28 13 11:35 am Link

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Jules NYC

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You don't have to want to fuck with the ball gag to be considered 'not vanilla'.
Then again, I don't call it fucking
☺

Vanilla?
Fucks like a 50's housewife?

lol

Jan 28 13 11:37 am Link

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Bella la Bell

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Um. Wow I think it all depends on truth and trust in a relationship.

Jan 28 13 11:40 am Link