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Photographer
Luci Alice
Posts: 15
London, England, United Kingdom


I took a series of images of Ulorin Vex over a year ago. I had a vision in mind but no matter what I do, I cannot get the effect I am after!!

I want red glossy paint to be dripping off the brush, over her hand and then a massive drip mark coming off her hand. Looking back, I wish I painted her hand but I am hoping I can save these images.

I've tried a few ways of adding red to where I want the paint and then doing some stuff with embossing/shadows but I seem to be unable to get the highlights and shadows on the hand.

Any assistance/advice would be appreciated! I'd love to be able to put some of these pics online sometime this century!

Original pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/theyareout2getme/uv_smaller_zps21270cfd.jpg

http://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/up … QDyP_b.jpg  This image is sort of the thing I am after but I want big drips coming off her hand.
Jan 29 13 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Star
Posts: 17,925
Los Angeles, California, US


your best bet is to photoshop out the brush- your reference image was done in camera

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130129/13/5108452b20ddc.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130129/13/510845d00d3c2.jpg
Jan 29 13 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,828
Los Angeles, California, US


Make the brights and darks of the hand and arm the same as those of the dress. Lift the highlights off the dress and stick them on the drips.

You could probably do the whole thing with the pen tool if you can previsualize the pattern. I wouldn't emboss anything, more likely just dodge and burn or paint the shading where needed.

Lets see what you tried so far.
Jan 29 13 02:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
PR Zone
Posts: 765
London, England, United Kingdom


Shot an Indian girl - then had the idea (3 days later!) that her elegantly poised hand should have been 'sprinking spices'

Got another friend (Indian) who was in the same office block to come over and sprinkle some salt - then grafted one hand onto the other shot

Maybe you can do the same thing here?

Including the 'splat'

Good luck :-)
Jan 29 13 02:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Supermodel Photographer
Posts: 3,309
Oyster Bay, New York, US


Luci Alice wrote:
Tearing my hair out over this image

Do you think that helps, or are you going to (air)brush the hair away?

Jan 29 13 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


Try painting the red as a solid color, then clip a soft light layer to that and D&B on it to create shadows and highlights that follow the contours of the hand/arm.

For the drips, in brush settings under "Shape dynamics" set the size jitter to "fade." That will make the size of the brush decrease as you stroke, giving the teardrop shape.

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8028/drip.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/4545/paint2da.jpg
Jan 29 13 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


PR Zone wrote:
Shot an Indian girl - then had the idea (3 days later!) that her elegantly poised hand should have been 'sprinking spices'

Got another friend (Indian) who was in the same office block to come over and sprinkle some salt - then grafted one hand onto the other shot

Maybe you can do the same thing here?

Including the 'splat'

Good luck :-)

That was my thought as well. Just create what you want, shoot and incorporate. That is, until I saw that Peano had it down in about 3 minutes lol.

Jan 29 13 03:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
ShuttingDown
Posts: 68
Crystal Lake, Illinois, US


Really like what Peano did as well.

Only thing I'd be tempted to add would be motion blur to the drops.
Jan 29 13 03:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SGHPhotoArt
Posts: 22
Orlando, Florida, US


http://sghphotoart.smugmug.com/Other/SmugShots/i-xd26n8j/0/M/dfrews-M.jpg
Jan 29 13 04:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Platinum Dust
Posts: 97
San Francisco, California, US


My method of attack would just be to paint it in with a regular brush, no pun intended.

http://i.imgur.com/T3i1r23.jpg

Not sure how much paint you wanted (I went with a little bit more than the sample image -- gorgeous image by the way) or how big/globby you wanted the paint drops, but the nice thing about painting is you control every detail.
Jan 30 13 12:32 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
ShuttingDown
Posts: 68
Crystal Lake, Illinois, US


Platinum Dust, that is most excellent work! Very nice attention to detail to the physics involved.
Jan 30 13 04:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Julian Marsalis
Posts: 1,191
Austin, Texas, US


I would find a matching brush and matching red glossy paint and shoot them and the drips on the floor and composite the image together. Especially if your not an great artist or else  can look real fake.
Jan 30 13 10:55 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Platinum Dust
Posts: 97
San Francisco, California, US


Thanks Ricky, much appreciated smile

I'm also liking the composite image idea with reshooting the hand and paintbrush. If that's more convenient, that would definitely be another way to go. (Lack of photo equipment here means I'm forced to paint it in instead)
Jan 30 13 11:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Luci Alice
Posts: 15
London, England, United Kingdom


Some great examples here. I'm going to be giving one of the images a try tonight smile Thanks so much.
Jan 30 13 11:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Luci Alice
Posts: 15
London, England, United Kingdom


Here's my attempt.

I'm really struggling! I rarely use the paint brush - goes to show I still have alot to learn.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/theyareout2getme/ulorin_arghhh_zps4692139d.jpg
Jan 30 13 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Geraldine
Posts: 1,696
Valdese, North Carolina, US


That's not how paint looks when it drips.

Peano's brush is probably the most realistic in this thread & Platinum Dust's drips/splatter are very very nice. I agree that a composite might be the best way to go unless you want an overly cartoony effect on an otherwise nice image.
Jan 30 13 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TMA Photo and Retouch
Posts: 719
New York, New York, US


There are several sets of paint drips and splatter brushes for Photoshop that have the shadows and shading and highlights built into the brushes themselves. They can be painted on ...and then Free Transform > Warped... or even better... Puppet Warped around the hand.  You can pull the paint and bend and wrap these brushes around the hand with the transform tools. 

Some of these paint splatter brushes are free (Google: Free photoshop paint and splatter brushes) and they obviously can be colored the same color as the dress.  This might be an intermediate solution if you are not a freehand artist. 

If you do this painting on a clear transparent layer above your image...you can make many trials and play around with it until you get it to look the way you like it.

Yes it will be some work...but then you will have a new skill as a result.

Ray
Feb 02 13 01:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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