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Neli Hari
Posts: 20
Ithaca, New York, US


I'm sorry if the tittle baffled you but I have no idea what they are called and being a total girl I'm just going with the obvious, so jump to the links below for reference pics.

So, what are they called? Where do I get one? Can I DIY it? Thanks for the help!

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/20236904

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/22214817
Feb 03 13 04:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Barely StL
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Feb 03 13 04:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,472
Paris, Île-de-France, France


In North America they are called Apple Boxes. or Crates.

The real ones are made so they stack. There are many sizes.

Me I just used a old kitchen cabinet I found and used a router to round the corners.
Feb 03 13 04:59 am  Link  Quote 
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Hero Foto
Posts: 878
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Barely StL wrote:
http://www.misterplexi.com/cubes.html

SWEET share ... thanks

Feb 03 13 05:11 am  Link  Quote 
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WMcK
Posts: 5,283
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


Do what I did, get out the hammer and saw and make one!
Feb 03 13 08:00 am  Link  Quote 
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Creative Image
Posts: 1,323
Avon, Connecticut, US


Neil Snape wrote:
In North America they are called Apple Boxes. or Crates.

The real ones are made so they stack. There are many sizes.

Me I just used a old kitchen cabinet I found and used a router to round the corners.

Sorry, but no.  This is an apple box:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control … &A=details

Feb 03 13 09:36 am  Link  Quote 
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WMcK
Posts: 5,283
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


I have always heard them referred to as "posing cubes." And a Google search gives this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 … s_Set.html
Feb 03 13 10:02 am  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,541
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


I went BIY.  used old speakers. they come in all sorts of huge sizes.  people are always getting rid of them. get the black ones. paint them white if you prefer. corners come pre rounded on many.
Feb 03 13 10:37 am  Link  Quote 
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RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,265
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


IKEA coffee table: 5,- EURO with bits of stiff white card taped to the legs to close it off...
Feb 03 13 10:40 am  Link  Quote 
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robert christopher
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Snohomish, Washington, US


if you dont have the skills to make one find a local cabinet maker. leave one side open so you can nest them or use them for storage, tell him you will sand and paint them if it gives you a better price, remind him to keep them light, 1/2" ac plywood should do.

i like the idea of something from ikea
Feb 03 13 12:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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GeorgeMann
Posts: 1,148
Orange, California, US


robert christopher wrote:
if you dont have the skills to make one find a local cabinet maker. leave one side open so you can nest them or use them for storage, tell him you will sand and paint them if it gives you a better price, remind him to keep them light, 1/2" ac plywood should do.

i like the idea of something from ikea

This is a practical way to do it. I made mine (red dice) myself, out of 1/4 inch MFD with 3/4X3/4 pine reinforcements in the inside corners.
Many many models have posed on and in them with no problems

Feb 03 13 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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G M Bacci Photography
Posts: 178
MARSTONS MILLS, Massachusetts, US


I made the ones you see here from 12" sonotubes  and MDF for the caps
http://gmbacciphotography.smugmug.com/F … &k=zRLTffh
Feb 03 13 02:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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KirstyWiseman
Posts: 48
Wigan, England, United Kingdom


i had a local handyman make me three from MDF for £50 - and he painted them!
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31438527
Feb 03 13 02:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
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Tampa, Florida, US


Creative Image wrote:

Sorry, but no.  This is an apple box:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control … &A=details

Sorry, but no. This is a real apple box/crate:

http://www.wasserstrom.com/restaurant-s … 2625416164

I've often heard posing cubes referred to as apple crates or boxes as well. At least, we all know what someone means when they use that term.

Feb 03 13 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,472
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Creative Image wrote:

Sorry, but no.  This is an apple box:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control … &A=details

Sorry but yes. I am no beginner.

Feb 03 13 02:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
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Tampa, Florida, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
I went BIY.  used old speakers. they come in all sorts of huge sizes.  people are always getting rid of them. get the black ones. paint them white if you prefer. corners come pre rounded on many.

I've done that as well. I had a pair of old Bose 501 speakers from the 90's that were built like tanks. They've been used as nightstands, end tables, posing cubes. I think at one point I even used one as a standalone cutting block.

Feb 03 13 03:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dan Howell Tearsheets
Posts: 572
Jersey City, New Jersey, US


Neil Snape wrote:

Sorry but yes. I am no beginner.

Sorry but I have to agree with the earlier poster. Set cubes and apple boxes are not the same thing. Similar to some degree, but hardly interchangable

http://setshop.com/set2/set2-workshop/c … r-purchase

apple boxes
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120128/11/4f244c2d1ad0c_m.jpg

set cube
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121006/09/5070638a11cb0_m.jpg

Feb 03 13 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


Hero Foto wrote:

SWEET share ... thanks

Whats sweeter is, I can drive there in 45 minutes! big_smile

Feb 03 13 03:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neli Hari
Posts: 20
Ithaca, New York, US


Thanks guys, you were all a great help!

My concern about making one was the choice of material - it seems to me plywood would not hold its shape if used for sitting, and MDF may be a little too heavy?

AVD AlphaDuctions that is a brilliant idea! I'm so going to start looking for one!
Feb 03 13 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neli Hari
Posts: 20
Ithaca, New York, US


KA Style wrote:

Whats sweeter is, I can drive there in 45 minutes! big_smile

Stop by for a cup of coffee, apparently it's in my back yard big_smile

Feb 03 13 05:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hero Foto
Posts: 878
Phoenix, Arizona, US


keeping on topic:

anyone seen these in the opaque/white type cubes? being able to stuff a strobe or light source in one would be cool
Feb 03 13 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


Neli Hari  wrote:

Stop by for a cup of coffee, apparently it's in my back yard big_smile

Hey neighbor!

Feb 03 13 05:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Barely StL
Posts: 880
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Neli Hari  wrote:
Thanks guys, you were all a great help!

My concern about making one was the choice of material - it seems to me plywood would not hold its shape if used for sitting, and MDF may be a little too heavy?

AVD AlphaDuctions that is a brilliant idea! I'm so going to start looking for one!

Plywood that's 1/2" or thicker should hold its shape, if it's put together well. You will want the top to be on top of (not between) the side panels. Reinforcing the corners with small corner brackets would be a good idea.

Feb 03 13 05:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sausage69
Posts: 101
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


I want a translucent white one too!
Feb 03 13 06:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hector Fernandez
Posts: 1,152
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico


Hero Foto wrote:
keeping on topic:

anyone seen these in the opaque/white type cubes? being able to stuff a strobe or light source in one would be cool

Do a google search for "acrylic cube for display"

Feb 03 13 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,472
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Hero Foto wrote:
keeping on topic:

anyone seen these in the opaque/white type cubes? being able to stuff a strobe or light source in one would be cool

They sell Polypropylene light boxes here in Europe in the Habitat stores.

http://www.habitat.fr/p/909295/lampe-de-table-azia

These we wouldn't call Apple boxes for the pundits.

Feb 03 13 11:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,472
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Dan Howell Tearsheets wrote:

Sorry but I have to agree with the earlier poster. Set cubes and apple boxes are not the same thing. Similar to some degree, but hardly interchangable

http://setshop.com/set2/set2-workshop/c … r-purchase

apple boxes
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120128/11/4f244c2d1ad0c_m.jpg

set cube
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121006/09/5070638a11cb0_m.jpg

Why do you guys keep showing old pictures of what we use every fucking day in studios?

Apple boxes or crates is the generic name for cubes made3 of would, most often stackable by way of a recessed edge made by a router, with or without hand slots. Most studios have their set builders make them in various sizes. They are in every rental studio I have every been in, and when I was doing film production in Vancouver that is what the DoP and grips called them.

Mathews is just a brand that make them. Here is an example of one you buy.
http://www.filmandvideolighting.com/mod … -wood.html

Here is one I made. http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110912/04/4e6de9fb34341.jpg

Speaker boxes, also would be perfect.

Feb 04 13 12:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Hector Fernandez
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Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico


Neil Snape wrote:
Speaker boxes, also would be perfect.

And that's a bright idea.

Feb 04 13 12:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dan Howell
Posts: 2,289
New York, New York, US


Neil Snape wrote:
Why do you guys keep showing old pictures of what we use every fucking day in studios?

Apple boxes or crates is the generic name for cubes made3 of would, most often stackable by way of a recessed edge made by a router, with or without hand slots. Most studios have their set builders make them in various sizes. They are in every rental studio I have every been in, and when I was doing film production in Vancouver that is what the DoP and grips called them.

You must be used to more slack studios then, and I personally doubt the rental companies use the term interchangeably. On a film set, if the DP asks for an apple box to support a light or a leg of a stand and you hand him a painted cube from the prop department they'd either laugh at your or fire you.

IF you don't want to acknowledge the difference between a piece of grip equipment  and a prop that's your problem. An apple box is a specific grip term --deal with it. They have holes or slots for handles, fabricated from B plywood and they are never, in fact, cubes.

A prop cube is different--usually fabricated from different material, usually more favorable to painting, and usually with non-routed edges so they will blend to set surfaces.

I didn't make this stuff up. It is common knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_box

Feb 04 13 12:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,541
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


"start of the apple box vs set cube wars, it was ...."

and this is why i use speakers.  nobody argues about if it's a speaker or not.
Here in Canada, the only nuance is we have both English speakers and French speakers but aside from that...
Feb 04 13 12:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neli Hari
Posts: 20
Ithaca, New York, US


Barely StL wrote:
Plywood that's 1/2" or thicker should hold its shape, if it's put together well. You will want the top to be on top of (not between) the side panels. Reinforcing the corners with small corner brackets would be a good idea.

Sounds good, thanks!
I did fiddle with some pieces of MDF and it def will be too heavy for me.

Feb 06 13 10:43 am  Link  Quote 
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