Guss W wrote:

With the long history of police abuse there, it was only a matter of time.  What do you do when nothing else works?

Did he ever try going to the feds as a whistle-blower? Just sayin'

Lohkee wrote:

Did he ever try going to the feds as a whistle-blower? Just sayin'

I don't know. Did he?

Lohkee wrote:
...

What makes this situation particularly worrisome is that as an ex-cop he is well aware of police procedures and knows exactly what to expect which, I think, makes him extremely dangerous compared to your average nut-case.

And like a guerrilla soldier, he knows how to pick his timing and strain enemy resources.  Even if he does nothing now but lay low, he's costing them a fortune in resources and everyone on the force is panicked.

Michael Bots wrote:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/la … index.html

"Dorner is a former U.S. Navy Reserve lieutenant who worked with river warfare units and a mobile inshore undersea warfare unit, among other assignments, according to Pentagon records obtained by CNN. He also provided security on oil platforms in Iraq.
He was rated as a rifle marksman and pistol expert, according to the records."

This article actually gives some insight into his military training.

Guss W wrote:

With the long history of police abuse there, it was only a matter of time.  What do you do when nothing else works?

you don't kill the friends and relatives of those that you feel wronged you.  That's a start.

Lohkee wrote:
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Did he ever try going to the feds as a whistle-blower? Just sayin'

Who ya gonna believe?  If police can line up five liers, that takes care of things.

Christopher Hartman wrote:
you don't kill the friends and relatives of those that you feel wronged you.  That's a start.

Of course it's not right.  But if he can't get justice the right way, to his mind, you have to take a different turn.
He wants them to know they are reachable.  They can't protect everybody.  He knows they don't like ordinary people carrying guns in California.

Guss W wrote:

And like a guerrilla soldier, he knows how to pick his timing and strain enemy resources.  Even if he does nothing now but lay low, he's costing them a fortune in resources and everyone on the force is panicked.

Yep, pretty much Gus. I think the very best we can hope for is that he just went "tilt" on the spur of the moment and did not really plan things out. If he put a lot of thought into weapons caches, hiding places, etc this thing could get horrific fast.

Based on the report that he tried to steal a boat, I'm thinking he just went "tilt," at least, I sure hope this is the case as it will make it much easier (albeit still difficult) to stop him.

Guss W wrote:
Of course it's not right.  But if he can't get justice the right way, to his mind, you have to take a different turn.
He wants them to know they are reachable.  They can't protect everybody.  He knows they don't like ordinary people carrying guns in California.

Can we have just one thread that doesn't turn into a gun lobby thread? Please?

Andialu wrote:
... But I do know what you don't do. And that's go on a killing spree and threaten to kill your ex-coworkers families and try to justify it by saying they are corrupt.

That's why it's insane.  But picture him living in the insane world where the police make up their own rules.  Now he announces that he is making the rules.  It's insanity addressing insanity.  I agree with the post suggesting it would make for a good movie.

Shon D.- Homme wrote:

I don't know. Did he?

Beats me.

Andialu wrote:
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Can we have just one thread that doesn't turn into a gun lobby thread? Please?

Does it hurt to have the obvious pointed out?

Guss W wrote:
Does it hurt to have the obvious pointed out?

It doesn't hurt but I would like to discourage a certain moderator from coming in here with his treasure trove of pro gun propaganda memes. This is a story about an ongoing threat. There are plenty of threads in SB about gun rights. Please post in those.

Justin wrote:
If you're living in the LA area and have a blue or gray Nissan Titan, keep that thing under wraps for a while. They're taking fire from the police with innocent people being shot.

He has police rattled, that's for sure.

Jesus H Christ. Look at the comments below the article.

Justin wrote:
If you're living in the LA area and have a blue or gray Nissan Titan, keep that thing under wraps for a while. They're taking fire from the police with innocent people being shot.

And the police are withholding details.

AOP Studios wrote:
Funny how the police have told news networks to stop reporting on the 4 innocent people they just shot in trucks similar to his.

Mmmmm

Can you supply a citation for this? Not that I doubt you. I'd just like to see it.

Justin wrote:
If you're living in the LA area and have a blue or gray Nissan Titan, keep that thing under wraps for a while. They're taking fire from the police with innocent people being shot.

Lohkee wrote:
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Yep, pretty much Gus. I think the very best we can hope for is that he just went "tilt" on the spur of the moment and did not really plan things out...

I fear that anyone who takes the time to write a manifesto-length paper has been working on it for a while.  The Unabomber had a long run.

365 Digitals Exposed wrote:
here is something  the EX cop wrote to america:


Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.

From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.

Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. XXXX and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. XXXX. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.

Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that XXXX kicked Mr. XXXX? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.

The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.

Hmmm, powerful stuff here.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
Let me be clear: I don't agree with his response.  AT ALL.  In fact I don't much believe in violence except in direct defense and under threat. 

That said, what if he's telling the truth about the LAPD?  What if they still condone open racism at an institutional level and turn a blind eye to an internal culture of accepted abuse and violence?

this, all of this.

Andialu wrote:

Can you supply a citation for this? Not that I doubt you. I'd just like to see it.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/07/ex_cop_ … shootings/

AOP Studios wrote:

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/07/ex_cop_ … shootings/

Thanks.

AOP Studios wrote:

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/07/ex_cop_ … shootings/

Andialu wrote:
My fear is that this will make Angelinos lives more difficult now because the police are going to be on edge.

bald black men will need to stay in.

T wrote:

bald black men will need to stay in.

Women delivering newspapers need to watch out too.

Christopher Hartman wrote:

Women delivering newspapers need to watch out too.

Is that who was shot?

T wrote:

Is that who was shot?

Yep, two women in Torrance. They were driving a similar truck.

T wrote:

Is that who was shot?

Yes.  Two women apparently driving a similar truck was out early in the morning delivery newspapers.  One shot in the hand and the other in the back.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
Let me be clear: I don't agree with his response.  AT ALL.  In fact I don't much believe in violence except in direct defense and under threat. 

That said, what if he's telling the truth about the LAPD?  What if they still condone open racism at an institutional level and turn a blind eye to an internal culture of accepted abuse and violence?

Indeed, what if.

Certainly, it does NOT give ANY man a free license to go on a rampage and murder ANYONE.

I simply cannot fathom how anyone could support vicious criminal murder, a self appointed vigilante roaming around the streets.(Compass Rose, not saying you do)

Two wrongs certainly dont make a right...... If LAPD is still guilty of the institutional criminal behavior he claims they are guilty of, there are MANY ways to ultimately bring those crimes to light. I am sure they dont happen fast enough, and I wish they didnt need to happen at all, but corruption is part(sadly) of being human....power nearly always tempts those with it......it takes EXCEPTIONAL folks to have a lot of power, and yet not abuse it.

I think we are lucky to have the good cops we do. I wish there was some way to root out the bad ones more quickly.

I hope they take this madman off the streets asap.

Andialu wrote:
Yep, two women in Torrance. They were driving a similar truck.

How reckless was that?!?!

Hell, we had the beltway sniper for 21 days and our police didn't shoot up "box trucks".

T wrote:

How reckless was that?!?!

Hell, we had the beltway sniper for 21 days and our police didn't shoot up "box trucks".

I was actually in DC area when that was going on. My mom was calling me every five minutes and telling me not to buy gas.

T wrote:

bald black men will need to stay in.

I mean...

T wrote:

How reckless was that?!?!

Hell, we had the beltway sniper for 21 days and our police didn't shoot up "box trucks".

Maybe he was shooting cops they would have been.  Some cops are itchin' for a shootout with this guy.

Andialu wrote:
I was actually in DC area when that was going on. My mom was calling me every five minutes and telling me not to buy gas.

It was . I didn't want to pump gas either. People were running out of gas on the beltway.

Christopher Hartman wrote:

Maybe he was shooting cops they would have been.  Some cops are itchin' for a shootout with this guy.

The man looks nothing like a woman. WTF?