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Model

Nataliya Turovets

Posts: 19

Mesa, Arizona, US

Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

Apr 09 13 01:48 am Link

Photographer

Sybarite

Posts: 140

Arnhem, Gelderland, Netherlands

Nataliya Turovets wrote:
Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

Hello Nataliya,

I think you are doing fine with your non-nude, implied work... and yes, you have a great figure, so yes, nude would work... as well, and you would look great I'm sure.

But you have to feel comfortable with yourself, and with the persons you are working with (or just don't give a crap in beeing an exhibionist(?) )
I've done my fair share of shoots, and with some models it goes by natural flow, that you might do a nude shoot (or not)
After which they are surpriced they went that far, but happend because of a high level of trust and security.

Also had shoots with multple models in a field of rapeseed during a week of shooting on location: see picture:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130311/14/513e5203614c8_m.jpg
This was for fun, and as you see, most are with clothes on, and some took them off spontaniously (I did not ask for it)... just depends on the model. [not all are in this photo, this are 3 of the 10 models]
How comfortable are you with yourself in that case, but also with the photographer.

Apr 09 13 02:18 am Link

Photographer

Jeremy I

Posts: 2201

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Nataliya Turovets wrote:
Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

You are describing typical MM photographer speak for "I would like to see you naked". Of course, they won't admit to it, but really that is it.

If you are not comfortable, don't do it. If you have fear to overcome, don't do it. If you would need to take a shot before doing it... don't do it.

Apr 09 13 05:35 am Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 4288

Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica

Jeremy I wrote:

You are describing typical MM photographer speak for "I would like to see you naked". Of course, they won't admit to it, but really that is it.

I am an MM photographer.
I like to see women naked.
I admit it.

O_o

Apr 09 13 05:41 am Link

Photographer

Harold Rose

Posts: 2925

Calhoun, Georgia, US

Nataliya Turovets wrote:
Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

Hook up with a professional photographer,   one that will give you good poses,  one that will care for the background,   and not do you pages of clutter.   My work is mostly commercial and advertising,   but on occasion a client will wish a background shot,   and some special figures.    Well thought out poses fit into  nude work very well..    Be careful of   everything in the photograph.   and with nude,   especaially the backgrounds..

Do not lean on a drink,   nothing but something to slow down you mind,   and   at this time you need to  keep you thoughts   very active...

Apr 09 13 06:04 am Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

I do not suggest drinking before a shoot. If you are not comfortable don't do it. It's really that simple. Find a photographer you are at ease with. Meet him for coffee and see if you get along. Trust your gut.

Apr 09 13 06:09 am Link

Photographer

KB Photo

Posts: 67

Paonia, Colorado, US

If you are not comfortable with the idea of posing nude, the pictures will show that, and most of them will not be very good.
Nude photography is about far more than a naked body and a camera; if a model has an outgoing personality, and if she enjoys being nude, the pictures have a good chance of being outstanding. If she is shy and uncertain, the results may disappoint.
If you decide to pose nude, discuss the details of the shoot with the photographer. Ask him or her a lot of questions. Become positive about your upcoming experience - or don't do it.
Hopefully you will hear from some models in this discussion....

Apr 09 13 06:14 am Link

Photographer

Sybarite

Posts: 140

Arnhem, Gelderland, Netherlands

KB Photo wrote:
If you are not comfortable with the idea of posing nude, the pictures will show that, and most of them will not be very good.
Nude photography is about far more than a naked body and a camera; if a llama has an outgoing personality, and if she enjoys being nude, the pictures have a good chance of being outstanding. If she is shy and uncertain, the results may disappoint.

1   Exactly

Don't do what doesn't feel comfortable

Apr 09 13 06:16 am Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Nataliya Turovets wrote:
Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

In general, my advice...
...  Find a photographer whose style you like,
...  Get to know him; be clear about your experience & concerns,
...  Have a mellow session,
...  Rely on your photographer to set the mood & pace and to define the style.

If working outdoors for your first time, choose a place that is private and that makes you comfortable.

Everybody has good experiences and bad experiences.  It's all chemistry.

Overcoming fear -- that's the trick.  Again, that varies from person to person.  I could suggest that you find something active to do -- occupying your hands will occupy your mind.  Heck, you wanna be a model -- people will wanna look at you.

Don't show a photographer anything you don't want photographed.

For many (including me), alcohol is not welcome in a working session.  If you need a drink to pose, I would suggest that modeling is not something you should be doing.

Modeling should be joyous.

Apr 09 13 08:09 am Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Nataliya Turovets wrote:
Hello! I have been told by few people on MM that I should consider the nude work. I don't think I'm ready for that but I think to start with implied nude for me is definitely baby steps. What is your suggestion for an outdoor (nude work)? This is something I've never experience it before. I did the semi nude indoor/studio but never try outdoor before. Please share with your experiences. Did you ever had a bad experience with nude photographer? How do you overcome your fear with being naked in front of photographer? Do you take a shot/drink before you start the nude work? Feedbacks are highly appreciated! smile

A) Don't drink

B) No reason to be fearful about being nude in front of a professional, if you're working with someone professional they are busy thinking about how to make the best photos possible, not about your lack of clothes.

C) A bit of fear about others seeing you seems understandable/reasonable, but my impression is that most women who pose nude adopt a mid-set where even that is no big deal (after all, the photos will be seen) so the only issue in person is trying to minimize/mitigate being seen to reduce the odds of someone seeing and complaining/causing problems.

D) To start out with, work with someone you feel comfortable with, and hopefully find locations where you are comfortable, and then work on expanding your comfort zone.

Since you are hearing impaired, it would be nice to make sure that you have people along who can help communicate with you and let you know if you need to "cover up" for example, as well as posing directions.

Ultimately, just relax, pick a photographer you're comfortable with.  I'm sure you'll do fine.

Apr 09 13 10:14 am Link

Photographer

AndysPrints

Posts: 533

Falls Church, Virginia, US

Now you have been told by a few people on MM to keep your clothes on.

Every guy with a camera has been telling girls that they should pose nude for over a century. That will never change.

Consider how nudes (and/or implied) might effect your professional career.

Apr 09 13 01:32 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

KB Photo wrote:
If you are not comfortable with the idea of posing nude, the pictures will show that, and most of them will not be very good.
Nude photography is about far more than a naked body and a camera; if a model has an outgoing personality, and if she enjoys being nude, the pictures have a good chance of being outstanding. If she is shy and uncertain, the results may disappoint.
If you decide to pose nude, discuss the details of the shoot with the photographer. Ask him or her a lot of questions. Become positive about your upcoming experience - or don't do it.

+1

Shooting "implied only" is a recipe for mediocre or poor images. Either you're comfortable posing nude or you're not. There is no in-between.



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

Apr 09 13 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

Kezins Photography

Posts: 1389

Beckley, West Virginia, US

-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:

+1

Shooting "implied only" is a recipe for mediocre or poor images. Either you're comfortable posing nude or you're not. There is no in-between.



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

I don't shoot nudes myself but I do buy nude art from time to time when I find something in a gallery that really sticks out.  I fully agree with the point that "implied only" isn't really a recipe for success.  To me, implied only works well when it's used to convey a specific message.  If everything you do is implied, it gets to the point where there is no message to convey.  The vast majority of implied nude photos out there are junk.

Apr 09 13 01:51 pm Link

Photographer

Edge of Illumination

Posts: 201

Dover, Pennsylvania, US

Isis22 wrote:
I do not suggest drinking before a shoot. If you are not comfortable don't do it. It's really that simple. Find a photographer you are at ease with. Meet him for coffee and see if you get along. Trust your gut.

+1
I wouldn't want to shoot anyone that had started or feels the need to "take a shot" to get comfortable.  Either you are or aren't.  Don't push the envelope beyond your comfort or it will show in the final images. 

I suggest to models, etc., that we meet prior to shooting if they haven't shot with me before so they can get a feel for me and me for them.  We have had some great shoots after meeting because they feel comfortable.  The style of modeling is your choice, not the photographer's, or anyone elses for that matter.  As you grow, you will either want to take the opportunity or not.

We wish you well.

Apr 09 13 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

It's very likely that after about 15 minutes, you will forget you're naked or not care any more, and you'll wonder why you were ever scared in the first place.

Apr 09 13 02:11 pm Link

Photographer

ANTHO

Posts: 58

Chicago, Illinois, US

Who cares what you've been told -- is posing nude something you WANT to do?  If yes, then by all means take whatever baby steps you need to get more comfortable - maybe progress from studio-implied to studio-nude to nature-nude to urban-nude.  But if you're only doing it because other people tell you it will benefit you, you're on the wrong path.  Simple as that.
And you'll often hear of actors that drink before doing awkward sex scenes in movies, but it's not something I would really recommend, especially if you're a lightweight!

Apr 12 13 07:35 pm Link