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Photographer

Trisha May Photography

Posts: 308

Colchester, Connecticut, US

This photographer only made it big when he started snapping photos with his iphone after his dslr photos were rejected for "poor quality". Is this really where the industry is going now? Trading in cameras for a cell phone?

Video of the photographer here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/495180?playli … _scope=all

Jun 13 13 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Jakov Markovic

Posts: 1128

Belgrade, Central Serbia, Serbia

It's about the person, not the equipment.

Jun 13 13 05:44 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Jakov Markovic wrote:
It's about the person, not the equipment.

+1

Jun 13 13 05:57 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

dp

Jun 13 13 06:03 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Not where it's going. Maybe his client doesn't care how he did it, so long as it suits their needs.  I rather keep my 5D and let others do as they wish with their phones. I only want to use my phone for phone purposes...LOL and GPS. big_smile

My question is would you want this guy and his phone to shoot your wedding?

Jun 13 13 06:04 pm Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

It's not always what equipment you have, but what your eyes see.

Jun 13 13 06:14 pm Link

Photographer

Hero Foto

Posts: 989

Phoenix, Arizona, US

well ... according to the Chicago Times and many, many, many more companies and Modeling Agencies ... the iPhone and Instagram filters ARE the preferred method of showcasing your product/service/talent ...


my .o2 -

FUCK CELL PHONE PICS

Jun 13 13 06:16 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Hero Foto wrote:
well ... according to the Chicago Times and many, many, many more companies and Modeling Agencies ... the iPhone and Instagram filters ARE the preferred method of showcasing your product/service/talent ...


my .o2 -

FUCK CELL PHONE PICS

big_smile

They can keep their filters, sooner or later the fad will blow over...

Jun 13 13 06:29 pm Link

Photographer

Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Trisha F Photography wrote:
This photographer only made it big when he started snapping photos with his iphone after his dslr photos were rejected for "poor quality". Is this really where the industry is going now? Trading in cameras for a cell phone?

Video of the photographer here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/495180?playli … _scope=all

who is his audience?

Jun 13 13 06:32 pm Link

Photographer

MCmodeling

Posts: 749

Sonora, California, US

for somethings maybe i would like to see you try and change lenses.

Jun 13 13 06:45 pm Link

Photographer

T A R I Q

Posts: 1302

Baltimore, Maryland, US

The beginning of the end for the DSLR...................LOL

Newspaper Fires All Its Photographers, Begins iPhoneography Training

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Chicago- … 7794.shtml

Jun 13 13 06:51 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

The problem is he does not know how to use a DSLR.
He needs a Iphone with special filters..
Kind of a handicap..
Meaning in the real world it may not go over to well, where a real camera is needed
to have features such as F-stop, speed, ISO etc.. Rather than auto correct and preset filters...
What he does is ok...
But he is no National geographic.. In fact he is not even close..

Jun 13 13 06:57 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I think a lot of people are missing the point... well it's nice to have the biggest & best camera sometimes it's just not needed.

Best Camera by Chase Jarvis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lotlwm38OM

Jun 13 13 07:07 pm Link

Photographer

Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

rather sad..... so many nice moments, but captured with a quality that does not do the moments justice.

However some of those images do look nicer than so much over saturate landscape photography I see out there with that artificial look of over punchy RAW converters.

But one interesting thing about this story is that IQ is not the whole story.
Chances are that putting his DSLR cash into the car for gas took him to more interesting places.

Something to consider when comparring even a $ 3,000 dollar DSLR to a $40,000 MF digital camera.

Jun 13 13 07:17 pm Link

Photographer

Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

Listen to the first line again..... Strange way to start an interview....

It's Apple product placement...

Jun 13 13 07:19 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Images by MR wrote:
I think a lot of people are missing the point... well it's nice to have the biggest & best camera sometimes it's just not needed.


No...
Its about being a good photographer..
Which...he really isn't..
Based on that he does not know how to use a camera (DSLR).
Even worst he would be lost with a 35mm film camera..
He needs auto correct, filters, and live view..
Does he have a good eye? That's debatable..

Sometimes you don't need much, is true.
Via, Hoga, natural light, and older DSLR or even point and shoot..

Iphone is not saying you don't need much..
It says you need MORE, more features and easy to use, easy editing that you can down load.. All in a phone.. Where everything is preset for any consumer.
Even if that consumer is an eight year old...
Its convenient.. But it does have its limits...

Jun 13 13 07:22 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Philipe wrote:

No...
Its about being a good photographer..
Which...he really isn't..
Based on that he does not know how to use a camera (DSLR).
Even worst he would be lost with a 35mm film camera..
He needs auto correct, filters, and live view..
Does he have a good eye? That's debatable..

Sometimes you don't need much, is true.
Via, Hoga, natural light, and older DSLR or even point and shoot..

Iphone is not saying you don't need much..
It says you need MORE, more features and easy to use, easy editing that you can down load.. All in a phone.. Where everything is preset for any consumer.
Even if that consumer is an eight year old...
Its convenient.. But it does have its limits...

Do you even have a clue who Chase Jarvis is?

Jun 13 13 07:28 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Images by MR wrote:
Do you even have a clue who Chase Jarvis is?

I'm talking about the photographer in question.
That the OP is talking about (Kevin Russ)..

and no, but I do know who Victor Demarchelier (son of Patrick), Jason Kibbler and Thierry Le Gouès is......
I think their good to know who they are.... based on the style I like.

Jun 13 13 07:30 pm Link

Photographer

Carlos Occidental

Posts: 10583

Los Angeles, California, US

"It's about the person, not the equipment."
In this case, it's about the person not knowing how to use his damn equipment.

Every single shot, every fucking one of them, would've been better with a decent camera. 

EVERY ONE!   

If he'd just learn to use the stupid DSLR, maybe his images wouldn't get rejected. 

If he's having fun, and he's selling, who am I to judge? 
He certainly could sell more if they were sharper, and had a bit more thought put into them.

A LOT of people have iPhones.  A lot of people like to dream.  A lot of people want to support this shit, because they like to support the purchase of their iPhones, and their dreams of possibilities, through this car living hippie shooting with his iPhone.

Pretty simple psychology, if you think about it.

Jun 13 13 07:30 pm Link

Photographer

Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

Another thing to consider... can one really make a living off iStock?

iStock takes minimum 55% if you give the files only to iStock.

They take as much as 85% for other than exclusive

Base rate is as low as $0.65 for subscribed photo buyers.

Jun 13 13 07:34 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Philipe wrote:

I'm talking about the photographer in question.
That the OP is talking about..

Then why quote my post?

Jun 13 13 07:35 pm Link

Photographer

Carlos Occidental

Posts: 10583

Los Angeles, California, US

Images by MR wrote:
I think a lot of people are missing the point... well it's nice to have the biggest & best camera sometimes it's just not needed.

Best Camera by Chase Jarvis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lotlwm38OM

In this case, yes it is needed.

Jun 13 13 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Images by MR wrote:

Then why quote my post?

Because I'm relating it to the OP subject in hand and the photographer he is talking about.
I'm staying on subject.

Jun 13 13 07:41 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Philipe wrote:

Because I'm relating it to the OP subject in hand and the photographer he is talking about.
I'm staying on subject.

Oh I see.. my bad!

Jun 13 13 08:36 pm Link

Photographer

Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

Philipe wrote:
No...
Its about being a good photographer..
Which...he really isn't..

Actually I think he's quite good with a better camera....

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090721/11/4a660f9ba29c2_m.jpg

I also think that his travels are quite an experience and he seems like a guy who is enjoying him self.

Jun 13 13 09:08 pm Link

Photographer

KenBrandon

Posts: 231

Dallas, Texas, US

As an answer to your question, ....NO, camera phones are nowhere close to replacing dslrs.

However, camera phones are filling a niche.
A camera phone is quite usefull for easy, quick shots that don't require adjusting settings for lighting/focus/speed/DOF/,etc.   

I was walking around a garden at dusk, and taking beautiful photos of the different flowers with my camera phone...... but for studio/fashion/sports photos, a dslr wins hands down.

It's not that they are competing against each other, they just serve different purposes.

Jun 14 13 04:14 pm Link

Photographer

Vamp Boudoir

Posts: 11446

Florence, South Carolina, US

that iPhone would look silly with a 400mm L glass hanging on the end.... tongue

Jun 14 13 04:20 pm Link

Artist/Painter

JJMiller

Posts: 807

Buffalo, New York, US

I think canon, nikon, and the other big boys had better start worrying, because smartphone tech is currently pretty damn good, and in a few short years will be significantly better. Iphones have an app that automatically creates really nice panos by just sweeping the camera. The algorithms are getting better and smarter, and a current smartphone can easily generate a nice 16x20 print. You can dismiss them, but that is being naive to the current pace of technology.

Jun 14 13 04:25 pm Link

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Hero Foto

Posts: 989

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Images by MR wrote:

Do you even have a clue who Chase Jarvis is?

1. an ELITIST douche (trust fund baby) ... without mommy & daddy he would be a regular joe schmoe off the streets ...

2. he does NOT do any of the work for "his" images ... he pays others to do all the work and claims credit ... just watch all the BTS videos ... he walks in and clicks the shutter and claims victory ...

Jun 14 13 04:53 pm Link

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pdxROCKpix

Posts: 119

Hillsboro, Oregon, US

I think there are a couple of other things going on that play into this also.

First is due the amount of content people consume on their phones and tablets, among other electronic devices, they are seeing a lot more images, of all kinds, than people did even 10 years ago. These devices do not deliver really great looking images. They are compressed and mangled in the pursuit of using less bandwidth.

Second is that a huge amount of those images that they look at are very poorly done. It's their Facebook friends or Twitter or Instagram. It's not like back when most of the images a person saw came from magazines or other sources that had minimum standards for their content. This has overall lowered the bar for what is seen as "good" photography.

It's not the end of DSLRs but there are many more places now to put images where the quality of a good camera don't really come into play.

Jun 14 13 10:52 pm Link

Photographer

sara kiesling

Posts: 124

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Philipe wrote:
The problem is he does not know how to use a DSLR.
He needs a Iphone with special filters..
Kind of a handicap..
Meaning in the real world it may not go over to well, where a real camera is needed
to have features such as F-stop, speed, ISO etc.. Rather than auto correct and preset filters...
What he does is ok...
But he is no National geographic.. In fact he is not even close..

I've actually been following Kevin Russ' work for years (he was one of the first photographers that I "discovered" when I started becoming interested in photography) - long before iPhones.  Check out his Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattersonminx/

Jun 14 13 11:14 pm Link

Photographer

MC Photo

Posts: 4144

New York, New York, US

Jakov Markovic wrote:
It's about the person, not the equipment.

It's not about the equipment or the person, it's about the content.

Jun 15 13 10:59 am Link

Photographer

MC Photo

Posts: 4144

New York, New York, US

Marin Photography wrote:

big_smile

They can keep their filters, sooner or later the fad will blow over...

Yes, once there's a mobile version of PS or Lightroom, the iPhone will replace both the DSLR and the laptop and people will stop using their filters.

Jun 15 13 11:02 am Link

Photographer

MC Photo

Posts: 4144

New York, New York, US

Philipe wrote:
The problem is he does not know how to use a DSLR.
He needs a Iphone with special filters..
Kind of a handicap..
Meaning in the real world it may not go over to well, where a real camera is needed
to have features such as F-stop, speed, ISO etc.. Rather than auto correct and preset filters...
What he does is ok...
But he is no National geographic.. In fact he is not even close..

He explained it all pretty clearly. His photos are about being in the right place at the right time.

He's finding photos, which is different from creating them.

Jun 15 13 11:04 am Link

Photographer

MC Photo

Posts: 4144

New York, New York, US

KenBrandon wrote:
As an answer to your question, ....NO, camera phones are nowhere close to replacing dslrs.

However, camera phones are filling a niche.
A camera phone is quite usefull for easy, quick shots that don't require adjusting settings for lighting/focus/speed/DOF/,etc.   

I was walking around a garden at dusk, and taking beautiful photos of the different flowers with my camera phone...... but for studio/fashion/sports photos, a dslr wins hands down.

It's not that they are competing against each other, they just serve different purposes.

I know what you're trying to say, but you're looking at it wrong.

The simple fact is, camera phones are replacing DSLRs. The only people bothered by this are photographers.

Jun 15 13 11:08 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

An iPhone in the hand beats a DSLR back at home, meaning their high availability allow for many images at which time the photographer would otherwise be "unarmed".

They also offer a discretion advantage and can be used in many places where DSLR's can not.

Jun 15 13 11:08 am Link

Photographer

nyk fury

Posts: 2976

Port Townsend, Washington, US

rp_photo wrote:
An iPhone in the hand beats a DSLR back at home, meaning their high availability allow for many images at which time the photographer would otherwise be "unarmed".

They also offer a discretion advantage and can be used in many places where DSLR's can not.

yup, and often times the results do trump my DSLR.

took this yesterday with my iphone.

https://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/166/5/8/buggy_by_kannagara-d695k1t.jpg

Jun 15 13 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

sara kiesling wrote:
I've actually been following Kevin Russ' work for years (he was one of the first photographers that I "discovered" when I started becoming interested in photography) - long before iPhones.  Check out his Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattersonminx/

I think Kevin found a niche for himself.   He has some great images! 
Mostly I see him shooting nature photography though. 

When models become ok with a photographer shooting the session
all on an iPhone, then I'll turn my DSLR's in.

Jun 15 13 11:15 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

MC Photo wrote:
I know what you're trying to say, but you're looking at it wrong.

The simple fact is, camera phones are replacing DSLRs. The only people bothered by this are photographers.

I'm not worried about the photographers.  The question is for models
... are models bothered by having a session shot on an iPhone?

Jun 15 13 11:17 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

My Android phone might run down after 100 pictures, but my DSLR is good for 1500, and batteries can be swapped in seconds. The phone is also much more prone to overheating that the camera.

For smart phones to be serious contenders, the battery life issue must be resolved.

Jun 15 13 11:22 am Link