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diva photographer?
i always thought only models could be divas but i think i'm wrong from this fellow i came across. does anyone have any good or horror stories about any? and how do you deal with them? just "next"? Jun 20 13 11:39 pm Link Hey neighbor... most definitely some diva photographers in our neck of the woods. They've learned well from the Jedi Master here...  ...  However... if you do run into some attitudes that are indeed untolerable... exercising your 'next option' would be a good recommendation...  Jun 20 13 11:54 pm Link Select Models wrote: oh did they? (; i think you're right! ;p haha, jk. just never thought i'd have to! >o Jun 21 13 12:39 am Link Bambi Dahl wrote: Jun 21 13 12:42 am Link Select Models wrote: "The Land of a Million Divas!" That sure sounds like a Hollywood movie. Actually, it's probably the title of a porn movie? Jun 21 13 01:00 am Link i think everyones a little diva on the inside. ;p hahaha. forsure. gotta find my one true photographer. Jun 21 13 01:02 am Link Patrick Walberg wrote:
Jun 21 13 06:28 am Link Diva photogs?...that shit kills me...I've heard of Diva actors, actresses, models, musicians etc...but Diva photogs...sheez...get over yourselves already people...lol Jun 21 13 06:48 am Link For me it depends on how bad the behavior is and how much of it is towards me and how much of it is just them rattling on. And the shoot situation (trade? paid? how talented are they?). For example, if they are getting diva-licious with me and demanding things of me and ordering me around, things are going to go a lot less smoothly than if they are just going on about past experiences or gossiping. In the latter case I just smile and nod and do my thing. And maybe I am just too nice, but I realize people need to vent sometimes. There are limits, but if that is all they seem to be doing and no anger or whatever is directed at me, I can listen for a little bit. I have had situations where it was pretty ugly and I did step out of that. There were two photographers who had a big issue going on. I think the vast majority of it was a misunderstanding due to a model and MUA being way too over-dramatic about a situation. They had outings about each other on their websites and profiles elsewhere, were trying to get each other blacklisted, and so on. I wonder if they are still at it... Jun 21 13 07:05 am Link Creative Lion Images wrote: Well, anyone who has any kind of an "attitude" when it comes to what they do is often called a diva, and that's mostly with a negative connotation. Jun 21 13 07:06 am Link DivaEroticus wrote: .... Goddes Eroticus... I like it! Jun 21 13 07:27 am Link Diva photogs!? lol.  I think we had some in our camera club. "pssst... "Wanna see my Hass'y?" "Oh Yeah. Wanna see my 11x14 Linholf? Trumps your little cheap-ass Hass'y." Maybe those were "Gear-head divas?" There are a few pros in town that come to mind as "divas" though at some weddings I've been to. The "My way or no way." types who will take their cameras home if they don't get their way. Jun 21 13 07:38 am Link Me: There is no excuse, how did the brown M&M end up in the bowl! My Assistant: It won't happen again sir. Me: Where's my Poland Springs water? My Assistant: They only had San Pelligrino sir. Me: How do people expect me to work under these circumstances. You, model-person, arch your back NOW! Jun 21 13 03:28 pm Link Bambi Dahl wrote: If it's a male it should be "DIVO" [singular] or "DIVOS" [plural] . Just sayin'. Jun 21 13 05:17 pm Link Bambi Dahl wrote: You will run into them at points Jun 21 13 06:09 pm Link "A diva is a female performer, usually an opera singer, who is extremely talented but very imperious and tempermental. But the distinguishing factor is that her talent permits somewhat uncouth behaviour. A diva is not necessarily difficult to work with, she is just very professional and and has a low tolerance for incompetence. A diva is NOT just some no-talent pop singer who thinks everyone should acquiesce to her every whim, or even worse, some woman who is unecessarily rude, mean, bitchy, and often stupid just because she "knows what she wants" and revels in being high maitenance. These woman do not deserve the title of diva, because they have no redeeming talent or quality. They are simply loud and oboxious bitches. True divas should be treated with respect for their enormous talent and strong will. Maria Callas was a quintessential diva, even being nicknamed "La Divina". " From Urban Dictionary Jun 21 13 06:23 pm Link Never! Well maybe one on MM comes to mind. Jun 21 13 06:31 pm Link I would rather work with a diva that is worth it than a dud. I've had many a MUA divas and divos. I can come off as a bit of a divo sometimes, but I try to hide it under my experience category! Jun 21 13 06:34 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: Yes!! Jun 21 13 06:44 pm Link Divas are just insecure little people who have a massively insatiable need for approval and control irrespective of whether they are, or are not, talented.... My own credo as an "artist" if indeed my "work" deserves the sobriquet: "Anything in any way beautiful derives its beauty from itself and asks nothing beyond itself. Praise is no part of it, for nothing is made worse or better by praise." Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus c 170ad Jun 21 13 06:57 pm Link Oh yes, I've dealt with a few photogs that have more (undeserved) ego than talent. One in particular had the nerve to "cold call"/copy-paste message me, then get pissy when I declined his offer and called him out on his unprofessional behavior. He's been extremely butthurt over it and hasn't moved on since, but oh well. I honestly couldn't care less. His work just isn't that good. I stay pretty booked up, and I only work with photographers who don't rely on hype to get shoots Jun 21 13 09:39 pm Link Ms Selina K wrote: Do you care about hype if they pay you? Jun 21 13 09:43 pm Link Chicchowmein wrote: Whether it's paid or trade I like to work with photographers who have had exhibits, gallery shows, publications, and the like. Actual credits, not just resume padding Jun 21 13 09:49 pm Link studio36uk wrote: thank. Jun 22 13 12:43 am Link i like where this thread is goin! ;D Jun 22 13 12:43 am Link thank you all so much for the opinions and stories. and spelling corrections. :p Jun 22 13 12:45 am Link Bambi Dahl wrote: Ah, mademoiselle cannot such things be classed as bapteme en diable? Jun 22 13 01:21 am Link GRMACK wrote: Those are gear heads. No respectable photographer refers to a Hasselblad as a "Hassy". Jun 22 13 05:26 am Link Bambi Dahl wrote: Yep, nowhere. Jun 22 13 05:32 am Link Rik Austin wrote: I shot with her. Jun 22 13 11:21 am Link indefinite anomaly wrote: I love when I get messages like that. It allows me to see upfront who's a pain in the ass to work with and who isn't. It's the sneaky divas I can't stand. Jun 22 13 05:07 pm Link LOL. I've dealt with them before. Invariably, the "divos" who come to me are the ones with whom I would hardly consider doing a paid shoot, let alone anything else... they're the ones who have either really horrible, out-of-focus, etc. "work" and a bunch of so-called references that don't add up. They like to go on and on about how I'm being "disrespectful" to them by politely declining paying THEM to "improve" my portfolio, because, heaven knows, I "don't know who they are," and I'll "be sorry." One memorable divo insisted that he'd shot with Italian Vogue and French Elle. Interestingly enough, neither Vogue nor Elle had ever heard of him. B-) Jun 24 13 09:03 am Link I've been called a Diva photographer several times..... I think it's because I yell "OH SNAP" and snap my fingers in the air after each frame. Jun 24 13 09:10 am Link Awesome Headshots wrote: Now THAT is the type of person I want to shoot with. xD Jun 24 13 09:27 am Link Creative Lion Images wrote: Trust me..they r out there..one in weho, 3 in honolulu, and 2 in NYC, and 1 in turkey scratch, ar.lol Jun 24 13 09:38 am Link I think many of the best people in any field have a bit of the diva in them. People who are driven to do every job to the the highest standard can come across that way to us mere mortals. Of course, there are a lot of full-on divas who do not have the talent or work ethic to back it up. They usually wind up out of the business pretty quick, but they make the rest of us miserable while they are there. Before I retired I worked with a lot of both types - photographers, models, designers, writers editors and more. A few of them wound up at the top of their profession, and deserved it. Most of them wound up looking for a new career. Jun 24 13 10:24 am Link I worked for one person who turned down a huge job because the 18 year old model was going to be paid the same as the well-known 28 year old photographer. I would not really call her a diva, it was a fair point about PR. I worked for a guy who threw his camera at the wall when informed that the stock delivery was going to be half a day late. Again I understood his frustration, half a day of assistant, studio, other hire purchases, plus time lost marketing and meeting people. The lens didn't survive, but we continued using the same camera with perfect results. I've always been conscious never to blame others if the quality wasn't perfect, that's the whole point of being a (beauty portrait) photographer, it's YOUR job to find and portray something special, extra-ordinary. A lot of models look very plain, ordinary, as if too much make-up is regularly applied to their skin, tired, overworked, overtravelled etc when they turn up, I think some photographer's have a poor attitude to certain models and aren't patient enough or challenge themselves enough to create an extraordinary pic with what they have in front of them. You often see people are disappointed with models and switch off a bit, it's a bit diva-ish. Jun 24 13 10:51 am Link studio36uk wrote: Are we not photographers? Jun 24 13 03:24 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: THISSSS Jun 24 13 03:50 pm Link |
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