Forums > Events > Arizona ShootOut - Phoenix - November 15th-18th

Photographer

AZ Shoots

Posts: 185

Phoenix, Arizona, US

The Arizona ShootOut - Phoenix, AZ - November 15th-18th, 2013

Beautiful nude models... awesome locations... great weather...

Although we have called our event the 'Arizona ShootOut' for over 10 years,
our event is based on one-on-one shooting.


We always have an amazing lineup of nude models, you won't want to miss this.

Spend a weekend shooting beautiful models in warm sunny Arizona. The locations are a photographer's
dream come true. an 'old west' town set, old buildings, desert vegetation, great scenery... it's all going
to be there waiting for you.

For pros and beginners alike, the Arizona ShootOut is a great chance to add some killer shots to
your book. It's the perfect opportunity to meet and photograph some of the models you've seen
and heard so much about here on MM... with incredible photographic possibilities.

This is a great event to get some unique images! All the images in my portfolio were taken at
past ShootOuts and there are literally hundreds of awesome unique images here on MM that
were taken at past Arizona ShootOuts!

We are expecting a 3 to 2 photographer-to-model ratio.
Our fall ShootOut promises to be an experience to remember.

8am to dusk Saturday and Sunday. And a Friday evening meet-and-greet!

There will be 2 or 3 photo workshops/seminars over the weekend and there will always be someone to answer
your photographic questions. And you and the models will have plenty of time to book private shoots.

And it's just a short leisurely drive out I-10 from California! smile

Find out more: http://www.arizonashoots.com ... 18+

We're just started to add our models... see the attending models here:
http://www.arizonashoots.com/models.html
18+

some location photos
https://www.hallphoto.com/post/AZSOgirlsMM4_2.jpg


https://www.hallphoto.com/post/Courtney1827.jpg


https://www.arizonashoots.com/imgs/AZSOgirlsMM4.jpg

Jun 30 13 12:06 pm Link

Model

Shaun Tia

Posts: 1697

Phoenix, Arizona, US

BAM! First model post WHAT!

Excited to come back to Arizona and see what the new and improved Cowtown has to offer this year.

I am a veteran of the Arizona Shootout, and just a buttload of experience.

Check out my portfolio for awesome nudeness

Here are some non-fun shots smile

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120908/18/504bec60d9109.jpg
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121112/06/50a10e5844065.jpg
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121112/06/50a10ee88e3e5.jpg
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121209/11/50c4ec72e6305.jpg
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130316/14/5144e86d2693e.jpg

Ill start booking as soon as someone messages me!

Get your slots early, my weekend fills up fast smile



Can't wait to see everyone!

Jul 08 13 05:14 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I'm looking forward to being there.  I've already signed up.   smile

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130704/09/51d5a96ddf283.jpg

Jul 12 13 05:34 am Link

Model

all_names_are_taken

Posts: 337

Ankeny, Iowa, US

Just got your invite (thank you, by the way.)

Trying to figure out how I could make this work.  I could make a work trip of it, if I could find people (at least 2 talks/day to justify the travel cost, probably) willing to sit down and discuss their life/health/disability/ltc insurance/retirement plans/whatever with me.  Is this a situation in which that type of thing might work out or do I need to pull out my schedule book and see whether I could make it a non-work-trip?

Also, holycrap, Shaun's going to be there?  Might be worth the trip just for that.

Jul 15 13 09:38 am Link

Photographer

Jim Shibley

Posts: 3309

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Dave's posted 4 new models. See you there.

Jul 23 13 12:12 pm Link

Photographer

AZ Shoots

Posts: 185

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Yes, we added 4 more models a week ago! Thanks Jim!

There's a few more days to take advantage of our early signup plan and save some money.

an 18+ image from one of my workshops:
http://www.arizonashoots.com/post/SaraDani3540.jpg

find out more at our site: http://www.arizonashoots.com

Jul 30 13 05:57 pm Link

Photographer

Dan Howell

Posts: 3567

Kerhonkson, New York, US

Where's Harry when you need a bump...?

Aug 25 13 03:08 pm Link

Photographer

AZ Shoots

Posts: 185

Phoenix, Arizona, US

We've added a few more models to the fall lineup! And we have more to add as more photographers sign up.

there'a couple more days to sign up before the next early signup expires!

see the models and sign up on the site:
http://www.arizonashoots.com

Another 18+ image from one of my workshops:
http://www.arizonashoots.com/post/GA_0827.jpg

Sep 03 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

The date of the Shootout is getting closer.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121219/09/50d1f99befdaa.jpg

Sep 11 13 04:22 am Link

Model

NoleyCRyan

Posts: 12

Mesa, Arizona, US

Hey gang! I will be attending this November as well and am looking forward to working with you all again. Eva Forte and I will also be available for shoots together!! Can't wait to see you all again!
Noley

Sep 14 13 05:01 am Link

Photographer

Harry Chow

Posts: 187

San Francisco, California, US

Dan Howell wrote:
Where's Harry when you need a bump...?

I'm here, Dan.  Sorry I have been MIA.  Time for the morning bump smile

Sep 17 13 08:22 am Link

Photographer

Jim Shibley

Posts: 3309

Phoenix, Arizona, US

2 months to go! I've worked with Noley & JaimeLeigh recently. & many of the returning models.

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone!

Sep 20 13 03:49 am Link

Photographer

Harry Chow

Posts: 187

San Francisco, California, US

Time for the morning bump!!!  Models and photographers wanted smile

Sep 25 13 09:51 am Link

Photographer

Jim Shibley

Posts: 3309

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Anyone need a studio while in Phoenix? I worked at one in Phoenix today, Shutter Shack Studio, about 7 miles south of the La Quinta.

Sep 28 13 09:28 pm Link

Photographer

AZ Shoots

Posts: 185

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Hey all! There's still a couple more days to save some money on this Fall's ShootOut with the early signup discount.

Do it now while it's fresh in your mind!

Sep 30 13 01:27 am Link

Photographer

Harry Chow

Posts: 187

San Francisco, California, US

Time for today's bump.  Photographers and models wanted.  smile

Oct 01 13 09:12 am Link

Model

MikkiMarvel

Posts: 112

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

I'm officially attending Arizona Shootout! Not only will this be my first AZ Shootout but it's also my first modeling trip to the West Coast. I am so very excited to hang out, have fun and get some great shots.

Below is a picture of me from a shoot I did yesterday in Raleigh NC. Feel free to check out my portfolio here for more. smile Looking forward to meeting all of you there!

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/131001/22/524bab9fc3e5b.jpg

Oct 01 13 10:25 pm Link

Model

Eva Forte

Posts: 19

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Hi Everyone!
I will be there in November and just added some new pictures with my "new" girls wink to my MM page! Here is a little taste:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/131001/13/524b2cc589cdf_m.jpg
Looking forward to meeting and working with everyone!

Oct 02 13 11:36 am Link

Photographer

Jim Shibley

Posts: 3309

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Any models attending that do yoga posing? I know of 3. I have an idea for a quick group shoot.

Oct 02 13 05:28 pm Link

Model

Amelia Simone

Posts: 2155

Rosarito, Baja California, Mexico

Jim Shibley wrote:
Any models attending that do yoga posing? I know of 3. I have an idea for a quick group shoot.

11yrs experience smile

Oct 03 13 12:09 pm Link

Model

Amelia Simone

Posts: 2155

Rosarito, Baja California, Mexico

Psyched to be coming to the AZ shootout once again!
Now booking for one-on-ones, with discounts for pre-bookings

I am very experienced in figure work, primarily Yoga (11yrs experience),
with advanced arm balances, headstands and backbends
Some of them can be viewed in the new video I've posted on my MM profile smile

Amelia
www.ameliasimone.com
    https://i44.tinypic.com/2vbpp3d.jpg
https://i43.tinypic.com/2laai47.jpg

Oct 03 13 12:17 pm Link

Photographer

Dan Howell Tearsheets

Posts: 572

Jersey City, New Jersey, US

Amelia Simone wrote:
Psyched to be coming to the AZ shootout once again!
Now booking for one-on-ones, with discounts for pre-bookings

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

Oct 05 13 06:00 pm Link

Model

Amelia Simone

Posts: 2155

Rosarito, Baja California, Mexico

Dan Howell Tearsheets wrote:

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

You too Dan!! smile

Oct 08 13 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

Harry Chow

Posts: 187

San Francisco, California, US

Time for the Friday bump smile

Oct 11 13 05:58 am Link

Model

IDiivil

Posts: 4615

Los Angeles, California, US

Hi, everyone.

My name is Christine, handle IDiivil, and I will be one of the models at the shoot out this year smile First timer! ... but I am a very experienced and awesome lady, and I promise you, we will get good pictures if you shoot with me!

Here's some non nude images. I have nudes in my portfolio if you want to see them smile

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130406/13/51608518e02a7_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/131012/14/5259c20f14c55_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130310/20/513d514f3fc0e_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110703/12/4e10c9114f41c_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121031/23/509219cfb7f8f_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120715/22/5003a7801a7ce_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130815/11/520d1eb151e57_m.jpg

Oct 12 13 03:29 pm Link

Photographer

Dan Howell

Posts: 3567

Kerhonkson, New York, US

IDiivil wrote:
Hi, everyone.

My name is Christine, handle IDiivil, and I will be one of the models at the shoot out this year smile First timer! ... but I am a very experienced and awesome lady, and I promise you, we will get good pictures if you shoot with me!

Here's some non nude images. I have nudes in my portfolio if you want to see them smile

Nice. Looking forward to meet you.

Oct 13 13 05:56 pm Link

Photographer

bmiSTUDIO

Posts: 1734

Morristown, Vermont, US

I see your event mentions that photos can only be used for self promotion by the photographer. You do realize that as soon as a photo is created, the photographer owns the copyright which allows them to be used in any manner. That includes selling them. There is no need for any document to make it legal. Photographers would not have to work out anything with models in regard to that. It is an inherent part of copyright. I find this is common for events like this and find it to be totally ignorant of the law and quite insulting, as well. If I'm paying the models, as well as a fee to attend an event, I expect to be able to use the images any way I can, including selling them. Granted not every photographer is a pro, but I would want to make my money back from the event and hopefully, ultimately, a profit. That's how I make a living.

Oct 13 13 06:22 pm Link

Photographer

Jim Shibley

Posts: 3309

Phoenix, Arizona, US

You're not paying the models unless you're paying for their time after the regular group shoot, then you can get a model release signed. That's when the models make their profit. You get to see how the models work during the group shoots.

Oct 13 13 10:24 pm Link

Photographer

Dan Howell

Posts: 3567

Kerhonkson, New York, US

bmiSTUDIO wrote:
I see your event mentions that photos can only be used for self promotion by the photographer. You do realize that as soon as a photo is created, the photographer owns the copyright which allows them to be used in any manner. That includes selling them. There is no need for any document to make it legal. Photographers would not have to work out anything with models in regard to that. It is an inherent part of copyright. I find this is common for events like this and find it to be totally ignorant of the law and quite insulting, as well. If I'm paying the models, as well as a fee to attend an event, I expect to be able to use the images any way I can, including selling them. Granted not every photographer is a pro, but I would want to make my money back from the event and hopefully, ultimately, a profit. That's how I make a living.

I find it surprising that, as a pro, you do not have a basic understanding between the difference between copyright and usage of a model's likeness for commercial publication. The latter is what a model release is for. Model releases vary in language from limited to all-emcompassing. The language used in the group shoot model release which is signed by each model and provided to each photographer allows for self-promotion, not commercial sales. This has NOTHING to do with copyright. They are separate issues.

Frankly, you are just flat-out wrong in stating that by simply creating a photo that you are entitled to publish "in any manner". Civil liability and privacy laws both limit usage. Your statement is both off-topic and irresponsibly inaccurate.

Why, or more importantly how, is this news to you as a professional?

FYA/E (for your amusement and education) Google: model sues unauthorized usage
Look at how many multi-million dollar lawsuits have arisen from the practice that you espouse.

Oct 14 13 05:04 am Link

Photographer

AZ Shoots

Posts: 185

Phoenix, Arizona, US

bmiSTUDIO wrote:
I see your event mentions that photos can only be used for self promotion by the photographer. You do realize that as soon as a photo is created, the photographer owns the copyright which allows them to be used in any manner. That includes selling them. There is no need for any document to make it legal.

wow. just wow.

copyright is covered by federal law. and most states have right to privacy (or publicity) laws that cover what people's images can be used for. if what you stated was even close to being true there would be no reason for releases at all, would there?

go post that here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=905997
and see what kind of response you get. lol

if somebody wants to sue you for using their images and you have a release, they are probably going to move on. if you don't have a release you are probably going to have to get a lawyer. tell the lawyer you have the right to use the images any way you want. maybe he won't charge you anything. haha

in NY for example (which is where I'm from), it's also a misdemeanor to use a person's likeness for purposes of trade without a release:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st16634795

were you around when the plaintiffs won this money from compuserve? do you even know about it? photos sold from a group shoot.
http://www.a-w.org/compuserve.html

no release = settle for a million dollars.


where's a forum guide when you need one? smile

Oct 14 13 09:18 am Link

Model

Brenda Kucerova

Posts: 4

Prague, Prague, Czech Republic

Hey everyone! I missed you last year so I decided to come again this time smile. Looking forward!!

Oct 14 13 12:51 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Brenda Kucerova wrote:
Hey everyone! I missed you last year so I decided to come again this time smile. Looking forward!!

I'm looking forward to photographing you.  smile

Oct 15 13 04:04 am Link

Photographer

Arizona Shoots

Posts: 28657

Phoenix, Arizona, US

bmiSTUDIO wrote:
Bullshit

After 12 years of running the successful Arizona Shootout, I assume the event host knows what he's doing.

Oct 15 13 03:32 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

John Jebbia wrote:

After 12 years of running the successful Arizona Shootout, I assume the event host knows what he's doing.

+1

Oct 15 13 04:54 pm Link

Photographer

Leo Howard

Posts: 6850

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Dan Howell wrote:
Where's Harry when you need a bump...?

What are you saying?  That you need a harry bump?

Oct 15 13 07:55 pm Link

Photographer

Harry Chow

Posts: 187

San Francisco, California, US

Leo Howard wrote:
What are you saying?  That you need a harry bump?

Yes, Dan needs a "Harry bump." smile

Oct 16 13 09:56 am Link

Model

Kat-a-tat-tat

Posts: 501

Pensacola, Florida, US

Amelia Simone wrote:

11yrs experience smile

holla. I got some ballet for you too.

Oct 16 13 01:18 pm Link

Model

Kat-a-tat-tat

Posts: 501

Pensacola, Florida, US

smile

Oct 16 13 01:24 pm Link

Model

Kat-a-tat-tat

Posts: 501

Pensacola, Florida, US

Hey, hey, hey!

It's me again! Super excited to be joining all you folks for this coming shootout next month!

Here are a few shots from my past two shootouts:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121103/22/5096013038c92.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120531/18/4fc81e1048897.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111026/23/4ea8f4d176ff9.jpg

Oct 16 13 01:28 pm Link

Model

VanessaFaith

Posts: 1

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Sooooo excited to be at the Az shootout for the first time! See you all there smile

Oct 17 13 02:35 pm Link