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ernst tischler
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So they aired the first episode again late last night, but called it "Naked and Afraid - Uncensored"

Profanity was still deleted.

Nudity was still blurred.

What the hell does "uncensored" mean to them???
Jul 01 13 08:34 am  Link  Quote 
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Vintagevista
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Sun City, California, US


Lame - "lets see if we can trick them to watch it again"
Jul 01 13 08:38 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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Houston, Texas, US


Vintagevista wrote:
Lame - "lets see if we can trick them to watch it again"

Seriously, this is about the weakest of all the BS "reality" shows on TV. 

I watched about 10 minutes of the first episode last week and turned it off.

Last night as I was flipping channels, I saw the "Uncensored" title and thought maybe they realized how bogus it was last week and decided to try to redeem the show a bit.  Well, I tuned in about halfway through the episode, quickly noticed the profanity was deleted and nudity blurred.  I said "WTF?!" and turned it off.

Then this morning my assistant was telling me that on the second episode last night, the guy injured his foot and got an infection.  The show producers took him out for medical attention and then let him go back in and continue.  Ummm, excuse me, but if the premise of the show is to SURVIVE WITH NOTHING then he FAILED.

Jul 01 13 09:11 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
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They should rename it "Uncensored in Your Dreams."
Jul 01 13 09:11 am  Link  Quote 
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orias
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ive never even heard of it sad
Jul 01 13 09:30 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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Houston, Texas, US


orias wrote:
ive never even heard of it sad

You didn't miss anything.  So smile

Jul 01 13 09:36 am  Link  Quote 
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DwLPhoto
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Its called people will buy the DVDs later.
Jul 01 13 09:39 am  Link  Quote 
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joeyk
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ernst tischler wrote:
What the hell does "uncensored" mean to them???

It means the only way they can get people to watch that shit is if they lie about what it is...

Jul 01 13 09:56 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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ernst tischler wrote:
What the hell does "uncensored" mean to them???
joeyk wrote:
It means the only way they can get people to watch that shit is if they lie about what it is...

Yep!

Jul 01 13 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
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DwLPhoto wrote:
Its called people will buy the DVDs later.

When I had the management group in LA, we had a lot of our girls on the reality shows of the day, such as "Blind Date."  Of course, everything they featured on the show was "Network Appropriate."  Then they released the DVD's.  That was an eye opener.

The DVD's were full of the nudity and more explicit sexual conduct that they couldn't show on the air.  The show went from "safe for work" to "soft core erotica."  The models didn't care.  They knew they were being taped.

The point though is, I am sure you are right.  At some point, I wouldn't be surprised to see either unedited DVD's or Pay-Per View/Netflix releases which really are "uncensored."

Jul 01 13 10:04 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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DwLPhoto wrote:
Its called people will buy the DVDs later.
GPS Studio Services wrote:
When I had the management group in LA, we had a lot of our girls on the reality shows of the day, such as "Blind Date."  Of course, everything they featured on the show was "Network Appropriate."  Then they released the DVD's.  That was an eye opener.

The DVD's were full of the nudity and more explicit sexual conduct that they couldn't show on the air.  The show went from "safe for work" to "soft core erotica."  The models didn't care.  They knew they were being taped.

The point though is, I am sure you are right.  At some point, I wouldn't be surprised to see either unedited DVD's or Pay-Per View/Netflix releases which really are "uncensored."

The nudity involved is really not the type of nudity that would sell a bunch of DVD's.

The nudity fits in the show fits more into the concept that the people are supposed to be dropped into a wilderness environment with nothing except their knowledge and skills to survive.  The producers destroy the concept of not having anything when they allow each person one item (in the first episode the man brought a fire starter and the woman brought a machete) and they were also given a map and instructions.  In my opinion, if the concept is for them to survive with nothing...then they should survive with nothing.  When you allow other items, the nudity then becomes merely a poor sideshow attraction.

I think it was a great concept...allow two strangers to begin with absolutely nothing and observe them as they survive for three weeks.  But make it real...or don't make it at all.

Jul 01 13 10:43 am  Link  Quote 
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Select Models
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ernst tischler wrote:

DwLPhoto wrote:
Its called people will buy the DVDs later.

The nudity involved is really not the type of nudity that would sell a bunch of DVD's.

Anyone who thinks they have their finger on the pulse of what the unpredictable populous is buying... is sadly disillusioned... wink

Jul 01 13 10:49 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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Select llamas wrote:
Anyone who thinks they have their finger on the pulse of what the unpredictable populous is buying... is sadly disillusioned... wink

You are quite correct about the producers of Naked and Afraid - Uncensored.

Jul 01 13 11:10 am  Link  Quote 
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DwLPhoto
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ernst tischler wrote:

The nudity involved is really not the type of nudity that would sell a bunch of DVD's.

The nudity fits in the show fits more into the concept that the people are supposed to be dropped into a wilderness environment with nothing except their knowledge and skills to survive.  The producers destroy the concept of not having anything when they allow each person one item (in the first episode the man brought a fire starter and the woman brought a machete) and they were also given a map and instructions.  In my opinion, if the concept is for them to survive with nothing...then they should survive with nothing.  When you allow other items, the nudity then becomes merely a poor sideshow attraction.

I think it was a great concept...allow two strangers to begin with absolutely nothing and observe them as they survive for three weeks.  But make it real...or don't make it at all.

Amazon makes plenty of money selling DVDs that simply put the swearing back in.

Then someone rips them, and then it gets hundreds of thousands of views on youtube....

No nudity at all.

Jul 01 13 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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Houston, Texas, US


DwLPhoto wrote:
Amazon makes plenty of money selling DVDs that simply put the swearing back in.

Then someone rips them, and then it gets hundreds of thousands of views on youtube....

No nudity at all.

I understand they make money from uncensored DVD's...but it's generally a show that people liked in the first place.  This show is just fake and lame...it's not interesting, it's not funny...they had a great idea and totally failed.

Jul 01 13 12:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Brian Diaz
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I was similarly disappointed when South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut was censored to get an R rating rather than an NC-17.
Jul 01 13 01:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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ernst tischler
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Brian Diaz wrote:
I was similarly disappointed when South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut was censored to get an R rating rather than an NC-17.

It's not just the failure to present the survival concept of the show honestly with the profanity and the nudity.  It's also the failure to conduct it honestly in respect to when a participant fails to survive.

Example is the second episode when the guy injures his foot and it gets infected.  They took him out for medical treatment.  Okay, if he had to leave for treatment, then he did not survive.  He should have been removed from the show and it should have been said that he failed.  Instead, they treated his foot and he went back to finish the show.  That's not real survival, that's theatre.

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studio36uk
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crap TV

Worse yet crap American TV

At least here in Britain when we get crap TV at least we get the T&A to make up for the crap part.

Studio36
Jul 01 13 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
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studio36uk wrote:
crap TV

Worse yet crap American TV

At least here in Britain when we get crap TV at least we get the T&A to make up for the crap part.

Studio36

You really love talking shit about America.

Jul 01 13 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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studio36uk
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Andialu wrote:

studio36uk wrote:
crap TV

Worse yet crap American TV

At least here in Britain when we get crap TV at least we get the T&A to make up for the crap part.

Studio36

You really love talking shit about America.

Considering that I am a US national, and have also served a full term of voluntary enlistment in the US armed forces including deployment in Vietnam, I believe I have that right. I earned it!

Any network that touts a show called "Naked and Afraid" and then censors the "naked" parts, at the very least should be sued for false advertising. Maybe they should have called it "Pixelated and Afraid", ya' think?

Land of the free? My ass! They're not free to broadcast the show they made; and you're not free to choose to watch it, or not, as they made it.

Studio36

Jul 01 13 06:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rock Victorian
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I've never heard of it. I'm not even tempted to look it up... It must be lame. Ha!
Jul 01 13 06:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art Silva
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WTH are we talking about?
Jul 01 13 09:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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John M Hoyt
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Art Silva Photography wrote:
WTH are we talking about?

A lame TV show. My wife told me about it. I had ratchet watch a Ford rust.

Jul 01 13 09:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Random One
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Canton, Michigan, US


ernst tischler wrote:
So they aired the first episode again late last night, but called it "Naked and Afraid - Uncensored"

Profanity was still deleted.

Nudity was still blurred.

What the hell does "uncensored" mean to them???

Totally agree!

Jul 05 13 06:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mark Salo
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Andialu wrote:
You really love talking shit about America.

This is certainly not my impression of Studio36.

Jul 05 13 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Zap Industries
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One of the best shows on TV. Wish there were uncensored versions out there.
Apr 29 14 03:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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I like SurvivorMan. Its real survival, to the extent possible, and the guy does his own camerawork; coming up with some great shots. Otherwise, im meh on survival shows, or I hate them.
Apr 29 14 03:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bunny 007
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studio36uk wrote:
At least here in Britain when we get crap TV at least we get the T&A to make up for the crap part.

Studio36

What programmes do you watch?  I can't find any T&A on my TV.

Apr 29 14 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alabaster Crowley
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ernst tischler wrote:
Then this morning my assistant was telling me that on the second episode last night, the guy injured his foot and got an infection.  The show producers took him out for medical attention and then let him go back in and continue.  Ummm, excuse me, but if the premise of the show is to SURVIVE WITH NOTHING then he FAILED.

I saw that episode. The man likely would have died if they didn't intervene. That's not what the show is about.

Apr 29 14 04:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alabaster Crowley
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John M Hoyt wrote:
I had ratchet watch a Ford rust.

lol que

Apr 29 14 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gary Melton
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The weird thing is that it's a cable show...so no reason why they can't show nudity.

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The show is kind of interesting - it is SO difficult for even really experienced and educated survivalists simply because they go in totally naked with virtually nothing.

Think what a difference the simplest of things would make if they had them, for example (any ONE of the following):

- if they simply had shoes, it would make a huge difference...(they could travel much faster, experience a lot less discomfort, do EVERYTHING with more ease, etc.)

- if they simply had a waterproof container with a a couple dozen waterproof matches in it...

- if they simply had a pretty decent spear they could use to hunt with...

- if they had a nice size pan to boil water in...

- if they had some good mosquito repellent...

etc., etc...
Apr 29 14 05:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alabaster Crowley
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Gary Melton wrote:
The weird thing is that it's a cable show...so no reason why they can't show nudity.

What? You can't show nudity on cable.

Apr 29 14 05:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gary Melton
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Gary Melton wrote:
The weird thing is that it's a cable show...so no reason why they can't show nudity.
Alabaster Crowley wrote:
What? You can't show nudity on cable.

Of course you can!  For that matter, it is NOT illegal or against FCC rules to show nudity on commercial networks, so long as it is after the prescribed "Family Hours".  Most networks just don't want to take a chance on a hassle.

There has been some notable nudity on commercial TV: "NYPD Blue" had quite a bit of fairly blatant nudity, and the mini-series "Shaka Zulu" had tons of it.  The PBS stations have nudity quite often as well.

Apr 29 14 08:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alabaster Crowley
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Gary Melton wrote:

Gary Melton wrote:
The weird thing is that it's a cable show...so no reason why they can't show nudity.

Of course you can!  For that matter, it is NOT illegal or against FCC rules to show nudity on commercial networks, so long as it is after the prescribed "Family Hours".  Most networks just don't want to take a chance on a hassle.

There has been some notable nudity on commercial TV: "NYPD Blue" had quite a bit of fairly blatant nudity, and the mini-series "Shaka Zulu" had tons of it.  The PBS stations have nudity quite often as well.

I have never once seen a nipple on anything other than a premium channel.

Apr 29 14 08:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gary Melton
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Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I have never once seen a nipple on anything other than a premium channel.

You haven't watched much TV then...

The movie "Schindler's List" has been shown on commercial TV (ABC) uncut and uncensored before and there is blatant nudity in that movie (ABC felt the movie was THAT important).  There have been other movies that networks have shown uncut/uncensored before - I just can't remember which ones off the top of my head.

...network TV miniseries "The Holocaust" had quite a bit of nudity.

Movies on AMC and TCM are shown unedited, occasionally a movie they show includes nudity.  (Movies like "Saturday Night Fever" which have just a little nudity.)

Most non-premium cable channels either don't show any nudity or don't show much nudity because of their sponsors - but there are no laws or rules that prohibits them from showing nudity.

Apr 29 14 08:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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